Brand new TST shorty levers!!

Jason-TST · August 12th, 2013, 08:40 AM

These are TST Industries brand new shorty levers that production has just finished on. They fit the Ninja 250R and the Ninja 300 and will be on the website tstindustries.com within the next week for our public release! Check them out and let me know what you think!!

csmith12 · August 13th, 2013, 08:15 AM

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2013, 12:46 PM

how much are they going to cost? will them come in green? and are they shipped from asia?

Jason-TST · August 13th, 2013, 12:53 PM

Price is going to be $115.99 and no, these are shipped right from our office right outside of Daytona Beach FL, a city called Deland. We only have black and red in these for right now, we my have green in the works in the near future but unfortunately not at this time.

bitaria · August 18th, 2013, 09:45 PM

Price for 2 levers or per side?

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Originally Posted by Jason-TST

Price is going to be $115.99 and no, these are shipped right from our office right outside of Daytona Beach FL, a city called Deland. We only have black and red in these for right now, we my have green in the works in the near future but unfortunately not at this time.

Jason-TST · August 19th, 2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bitaria

Price for 2 levers or per side?

That is for the set, both brake and clutch.

CC Cowboy · August 19th, 2013, 06:56 AM

Jason, do you have a store or are you just a web site?

Jason-TST · August 19th, 2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Jason, do you have a store or are you just a web site?

Sorry we do not, we run a good portion of our operations our of our warehouse in Deland FL and our website where we sell our products at this moment in time.

ForceofWill · August 19th, 2013, 05:19 PM

I'm all for small companies and American made but you have tough competition if you only offer them in one color.

These http://shop.the2wheels.com/7-Clicks-...ustable-KA.htm are half the price and come in multiple colors, etc.

Do you have plans to offer custom colors? Custom engraving? Will you guarantee the levers from fading?

Jason-TST · August 20th, 2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ForceofWill

I'm all for small companies and American made but you have tough competition if you only offer them in one color.

These http://shop.the2wheels.com/7-Clicks-...ustable-KA.htm are half the price and come in multiple colors, etc.

Do you have plans to offer custom colors? Custom engraving? Will you guarantee the levers from fading?

We manufacture these in only our manufacturer colors. We set ourselves aside from competition in quality, if you are to disassemble our levers and our competitors levers, you will see where we differ from other companies. Colors are just colors, we focus on the design and durability and quality of our products, we do not do custom engraving, we only use the highest quality manufacturing process including the anodizing process, our colors will not fade in normal use and we will guarantee them if they do.

Aggrotech · August 21st, 2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason-TST

We manufacture these in only our manufacturer colors. We set ourselves aside from competition in quality, if you are to disassemble our levers and our competitors levers, you will see where we differ from other companies. Colors are just colors, we focus on the design and durability and quality of our products, we do not do custom engraving, we only use the highest quality manufacturing process including the anodizing process, our colors will not fade in normal use and we will guarantee them if they do.

not tryin to sound like an ass but you guys should really know better..especially since you're dealing with the motorcycle community.

its extremely common to do color schemes on motorcycles and for that price, i better have options in terms of coloring...TBH you'd think that'd be an industry standard by now..

I bought some cheap chinese levers that have worked flawlessly that are 3times cheaper than the website pricing. they've been washed many times, been through rain and heavy use and there seems to be no discoloration in them..so if i were to ever look for levers...that website would be completely out of question.

jkv45 · August 21st, 2013, 12:35 PM

The Chinese can knock-off anything and sell it cheaper - no news there.

Most of the time they will use the cheapest possible materials that will work, and usually the anodizing or coating is crap. There are always ways to make it better, which cost money and take time, but they figure you won't know if it's going to fail or not just from looking at it. They know it will fail sooner rather than later - but don't care. You get what you pay for.

We need to just say no to cheap rip-off crap. They didn't design it - they just reverse-engineered it.

If a legit U.S. company wants to produce quality products, even though they are significantly more expensive, we should support them - or at least not bash them for limited color choices.

ForceofWill · August 21st, 2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jkv45

The Chinese can knock-off anything and sell it cheaper - no news there.

Most of the time they will use the cheapest possible materials that will work, and usually the anodizing or coating is crap. There are always ways to make it better, which cost money and take time, but they figure you won't know if it's going to fail or not just from looking at it. They know it will fail sooner rather than later - but don't care. You get what you pay for.

We need to just say no to cheap rip-off crap. They didn't design it - they just reverse-engineered it.

If a legit U.S. company wants to produce quality products, even though they are significantly more expensive, we should support them - or at least not bash them for limited color choices.

The Chinese knocked it off but you think this company invented these?

You think a piece of Billet Aluminum from china is "cheap rip-off crap"? These aren't that complex. And the Chinese ones aren't plastic.

If an American company is going to justify charging 2-3x more than the quality better be there or the customer service with them including customization better be. This company already stuck up their noses at the consumer when he suggested they were above doing any other colors or engraving. Like its beneath him.

jkv45 · August 21st, 2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceofWill

The Chinese knocked it off but you think this company invented these?

You think a piece of Billet Aluminum from china is "cheap rip-off crap"? These aren't that complex. And the Chinese ones aren't plastic.

If an American company is going to justify charging 2-3x more than the quality better be there or the customer service with them including customization better be. This company already stuck up their noses at the consumer when he suggested they were above doing any other colors or engraving. Like its beneath him.

I totally agree.

It wasn't clear if there was Attitude or not to me, but that would be a deal-breaker if there was.

Not all aluminum is created equal, and you can't tell by looking.

To make such a big deal about colors is silly IMO.

The biggest hurdle for this company is their target market. This market (entry-level) most likely will not support high quality American-made accessories like some of the other markets (high performance) that include higher priced cycles.

People who pay 2-3 times as much for their cycle are usually prepared to pay 2-3 times as much for their accessories.

ForceofWill · August 21st, 2013, 03:59 PM

I agree. I may have blew up the attitude part, that's just how it read to me. I know all aluminum is not the same but I don't think you need 7075 for levers and I dunno if these even are. As far as the CNC process for the parts I don't think is an issue with the Chinese ones. Mine have no burrs and are machined well.

I however think colors is a big deal here. The main reason people are going to shell out that kind of money for new levers is so they look different and match what they want.

I don't think they've priced themselves out of the market if they could just address the issues.

bitaria · August 22nd, 2013, 11:48 AM

There are lots of parts made from 6160 and 7075 alloys, all machined etc. US made stuff cannot approach China pricing just because people aren't paid $1 a day here. I'd like to say that quality here is better, but I have seen a number of products out of China in the last few years and they are not bad. Who is to say aluminum used to make this stuff in USA is made in USA...
http://www.world-aluminium.org/statistics/

What this means is that US based companies can win customers over by offering innovation and staying ahead of the copycat market, and providing a better customer service experience.

CC Cowboy · August 22nd, 2013, 01:11 PM

Buy American and pay the taxes on your purchase. The government is running out of money to waste.

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bitaria ninjette.org member Name: Oleg Location: Seattle WA Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): CRF450X, CRF250R/SM, Husky 630 SMS, Ninja 250R Posts: 144	There are lots of parts made from 6160 and 7075 alloys, all machined etc. US made stuff cannot approach China pricing just because people aren't paid $1 a day here. I'd like to say that quality here is better, but I have seen a number of products out of China in the last few years and they are not bad. Who is to say aluminum used to make this stuff in USA is made in USA... http://www.world-aluminium.org/statistics/ What this means is that US based companies can win customers over by offering innovation and staying ahead of the copycat market, and providing a better customer service experience. Last futzed with by bitaria; August 23rd, 2013 at 07:26 AM.

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Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	how much are they going to cost? will them come in green? and are they shipped from asia?

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Jason-TST ninjette.org newbie Name: Jason Location: Deland, FL Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: 7	Price is going to be $115.99 and no, these are shipped right from our office right outside of Daytona Beach FL, a city called Deland. We only have black and red in these for right now, we my have green in the works in the near future but unfortunately not at this time.

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ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	I'm all for small companies and American made but you have tough competition if you only offer them in one color. These http://shop.the2wheels.com/7-Clicks-...ustable-KA.htm are half the price and come in multiple colors, etc. Do you have plans to offer custom colors? Custom engraving? Will you guarantee the levers from fading?

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August 21st, 2013, 03:59 PM	#15
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	I agree. I may have blew up the attitude part, that's just how it read to me. I know all aluminum is not the same but I don't think you need 7075 for levers and I dunno if these even are. As far as the CNC process for the parts I don't think is an issue with the Chinese ones. Mine have no burrs and are machined well. I however think colors is a big deal here. The main reason people are going to shell out that kind of money for new levers is so they look different and match what they want. I don't think they've priced themselves out of the market if they could just address the issues.