March 8th, 2013, 05:01 AM | #1 |
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March 8th, 2013, 06:37 AM | #2 | |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWNinsmkAw I've watched both movies and read both books. Personally, I found movie 2 to be the easiest to digest, and then when you've been riding a couple years the books help with your fine tuning. There is a reason people have been talking so highly of this series for years. And if you learned something, go BUY it. I'll admit I saw Twist II for the first time for free, but now I have the books and DVDs on my shelf. Kind of want to carry the book with me and pass it off to new riders, but let's face it, in the real world, I'd never get my book back. ^^ And you won't understand that reference if you haven't watched Twist II yet......
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March 8th, 2013, 08:44 AM | #3 | |
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Yes, go buy it. If your serious about cornering, you will be watching it again or at least referring to sections. I have watched it at least 5 times and find something I missed every time.
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March 8th, 2013, 09:22 AM | #4 | |
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Some of my friends scoffed at me for actually paying this vid and the books. But they way I look at it, if I stand to gain from something, then why shouldn't the originator get some sort of compensation? Maybe one day I'll meet him and I will be able to tell him how much his book/video changed my riding style I have been watching and reading in our off season (which is coming to and end soon , hopefully). I also bought Lee Parks' book...Total Control. He will be instructing a class that I am going to attend up here in June. (I actually booked it before I found out that Lee will be there.) |
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March 8th, 2013, 09:26 AM | #5 |
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Watched the movie first and it was very informative.
Then I got a copy of the book and it is awesome. Highly recommend you get the book. Tons of great information that made me look at riding in an entirely different perspective and helped me better understand the technology and science behind it all.
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March 8th, 2013, 12:50 PM | #6 |
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I love the information in the videos and the books. I just wish it was delivered in a less patronizing way.
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March 8th, 2013, 01:38 PM | #7 |
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I have the book on order.
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March 15th, 2013, 09:12 PM | #8 |
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Yes please buy the books and the DVD. A lot of work went into the writing of and the filming of the movie, I know because I'm in Twist of the Wrist II
Awesome information, Keith knows his stuff and has a passion for his work as do all of his staff, myself included. I love my job! Misti
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March 16th, 2013, 03:42 AM | #9 |
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Where in the movie do you appear, Misti?
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March 16th, 2013, 05:32 AM | #10 |
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Love the video. Now I need to buy the book.
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March 16th, 2013, 11:08 AM | #11 |
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I prefer "Riding in the Zone" by Ken Condon
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March 16th, 2013, 02:53 PM | #12 |
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the most useful information i've received was from fast guys at the track... some of them can look at you and tell you all the things you are messing up. things you would never think about. though a class would be better. or go racing!
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March 17th, 2013, 08:33 PM | #13 |
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I play the mom to the two kids I'm in the mini van driving and them I'm coaching them at the track and leading them around a few turns. Small part but fun none the less.
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March 17th, 2013, 08:45 PM | #14 |
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It took me a few times watching it to notice that the "mini-van mom" was the track coach to the kids as well.
"About 3 months" and "Just keep readin' it." hahahahahahah One of the best parts of the plot.
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March 18th, 2013, 05:17 AM | #15 | |
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I just watched one of those YT vids over the last week, and ordered a hardcopy of the book too. VERY helpful and a LOT of great information in there. I went out for my first "spirited ride" with my brother, cousin and Jono yesterday. Out of about 60 miles of riding, I only felt "rushed" or "panicked" twice. Both times I was counting my SR's and correctly blocking them. Misti, I can personally say that your vid very-likely saved my life this weekend.
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March 18th, 2013, 06:12 AM | #16 |
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when talking to newer rider i refer to the book a lot, it illustrates the "why" behind the techniques very well.
i'll probably buy two or three copies to have around and let people if i see they need help with riding skills.
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March 18th, 2013, 06:42 AM | #17 |
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Are you gonna keep them in your tank-bag at all times?
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March 18th, 2013, 06:48 AM | #18 | |
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Keith Code has made a huge contribution to the modern track motorcycling. I wonder why he has not extended his teaching to street riding in a dedicated book and/or practical school. In my opinion, that could have prevented many fatalities and accidents due to lack of proficiency in street riding. I know there are books teaching the subject, but Mr. Code sees and goes were others cannot. As I understand, he has been working on a book dedicated to the ergonomics of racing and track riding.
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March 18th, 2013, 10:11 AM | #19 |
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they are going in my tail bag, lol.
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March 20th, 2013, 09:08 PM | #20 | |
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His book Twist of the Wrist II and new video of the same name is full of riding techniques that are both street and track oriented and often gives practical advice about how a technique could be helpful on the street. As for preventing many fatalities I think Keith Code has already done that many times over. We are constantly receiving letters and thank you notes from former students that have used the techniques they learned at one of the schools to avoid an accident. They often say, "what you taught me that day saved my life." Code also runs military based schools that teach the same exact skill sets from his regular schools to military riders on their OWN streetbikes in order to improve their street riding techniques. I think there is an overall misunderstanding that his schools are geared for racers or street riders when they are in fact not. If you have any more questions about the school or want specifics on what is covered or anything, please ask and i'll be happy to answer Misti
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March 20th, 2013, 09:57 PM | #21 | |
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In those discussions, it seemed to me like he was a new rider with limited experience. The last time we talked, which was about two weeks ago, he told me about a braking incident in which he locked the rear. This is also when I found out he only had 3K miles and was newer to riding than I realized. He already had me concerned, due to his overall view of riding and how the handles. I let him borrow my copy of Twist II just before spring break and told him I'd get it from him when he was done with it. If he read it, I have no doubt that he will learn something potentially life-saving from it, if he wants to.
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March 21st, 2013, 05:32 AM | #22 |
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Indeed, this is totally true. There is at least 20 references to using skills on the street that is covered in the video. The video delivers the message with a different feel, as you see the rider on the street.
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March 21st, 2013, 11:51 AM | #23 | |
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I have only been on the street for 3600 miles. I spent years on dirt before hand though. I feel like there are some good and bad things i took over to the street. One of the bad things is locking up the rear. Braking on a dirtbike is a lot different. On dirt locking rear is non issue, and sometimes a good technique especially on certain bikes for taking uber tight turns and lines then blasting out of the inside. The front on a dirtbike can lock up and washout easier than on street as well. On my ninja I have locked up the rear 3 times or so on the street all times in a stopping situation and have had no problems as i have had lots of practice controlling rear lock ups. i know it is happening and am kind of prepared for it. In dirt riding you definitely learn to control a locked up rear and again it is more of a technique on the dirt for particular situations. Never have come close to locking up rear when braking for a turn, it's a different situation and my brain handles it differently, so just on quick stops i need some work. Just need to kick that dirtbike habit and trust more in the front end holding + I need to be a little more subtle with the rear brake, it is just super easy to lock up. practice practice practice |
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April 2nd, 2013, 02:19 PM | #24 | |
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Can you guys think of what techniques/skills are good in the dirt but not so much on the road? Misti
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April 2nd, 2013, 02:43 PM | #25 |
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April 2nd, 2013, 03:55 PM | #26 |
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Splashing each other through puddles.
Jumps aren't as much fun on the street. Dodging trees sucks on a street bike. Opposite lean, although sometime you need it on the street. Sliding around turns by locking up the rear wheel. Standing up on the pegs. Riding over fallen trees would definitely suck on a road bike. Riding two up would suck on a dirt bike, unless it's a forest ........ Crashing is just part of riding in the dirt, not so much on the street.
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April 2nd, 2013, 05:57 PM | #27 |
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Crashing is very much a part of my street riding, lol.
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April 2nd, 2013, 06:08 PM | #28 |
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You must be doing this wrong or something.
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April 11th, 2013, 10:51 AM | #29 | |
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When would you need to lean opposite on the street and why? Misti
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April 11th, 2013, 11:40 AM | #30 |
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Obstacle avoidance.
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April 11th, 2013, 11:41 AM | #31 |
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Parking lot tight turns, very slow/tight uturns, wind... ect.. ect..
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