June 24th, 2015, 09:18 AM | #1 |
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Those Blind corners can sometimes Hurt...
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June 24th, 2015, 09:21 AM | #2 |
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Dang.... lucky guy
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June 24th, 2015, 09:49 AM | #3 |
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wow, definitely a lucky guy to say the least. I was expecting something different from the video as the thread mentions blind turn so I was thinking like a fire truck blocking lanes because of an accident and the rider comes around the corner and bam. But this guy just totally got scared despite the trucking being in its correct lane, upset the bike and the rest was history.
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June 24th, 2015, 10:12 AM | #4 |
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I didn't want to give away the whole ending.
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June 24th, 2015, 10:13 AM | #5 |
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It might just be the camera lens, but the road looks a bit narrow and I don't really see much of a center line. Assuming it's actually a standard 2-lane road though, the rider screwed up. He went into the curve too fast and/or target-fixated on the truck. Whatever the reason, he ended up in the truck's lane, sucking on its grille. If he had stayed in his own lane (by slowing down and/or looking where he wanted to go), there would've been no problem.
Seeing anyone, especially another rider, get hurt sucks. It's worse when it's something that could've been completely avoided. Every curve might as well be a "blind corner" if you're going to veer in front of oncoming traffic.
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June 24th, 2015, 10:23 AM | #6 |
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That was difficult to watch.
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June 24th, 2015, 10:37 AM | #7 |
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At :12 he looks like he loses control of the bike. It's almost like a mini-tank slapper. I don't know if it was rider induced.
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June 24th, 2015, 10:44 AM | #8 |
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Looks like the rider induced his front end problems via the front brake lever. Hard to tell because the banner is there. Whatch it is slowmo and see what you think.
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June 24th, 2015, 11:06 AM | #9 | |
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It was a narrow road, he takes the turn a bit quick, starts to run a tad wide then sees the truck and totally panics. It's uncomfortable when you're hitting the apex of a turn and a truck/car is coming the other way but you need to ignore it and focus on staying in your lane while you make the turn. Seems like he wasn't a very experienced rider and he pushed himself too far in the twisties. Lucky he's alive.
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June 24th, 2015, 11:42 AM | #10 |
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lucky guy, I saw the original video. His line choices were atrocious throughout and I knew that was how he'd end up crashing (said in video name he crashed) but it was a worse crash than I expected. Definitely plays into the whole late apex on the street idea which would set him up much better against this situation
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June 24th, 2015, 12:00 PM | #11 |
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Lots of FZ-07s in interesting videos lately...
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June 24th, 2015, 12:25 PM | #12 |
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Saw it on the local news this morning.
I think he posted it on the fz-07 boards. Seems to be a relatively new rider based on his join date. |
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June 24th, 2015, 12:44 PM | #13 |
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The full vid shows how those guys were crossing the center line whenever they felt like it. Just a matter of time before they came across another vehicle at the wrong moment.
I can't get over how narrow that road was though.
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June 24th, 2015, 01:49 PM | #14 |
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My favorite part of that video is around 10:50 when his buddy says, "I hope this b**** isn't totaled."
Uhhh... I think it's probably totaled. Also, I'm pretty sure there are other things to worry about then even if the medics seems to have everything pretty well in hand.
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June 24th, 2015, 07:52 PM | #15 |
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Painful to watch !!!
Another beginner rider victim of improper group riding. When he saw the truck, he simultaneously did steer away from the truck and did grab a handful of front brake while the bike was leaned. In actuality, he counter-steered towards the truck and overwhelmed the front contact patch at the same time, loosing effective steering. These two old threads are relevant and worth reading for riders who started riding this year and wish to improve in street riding skills: During an emergency situation, will you steer in the right direction? Brake progressively
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June 24th, 2015, 09:00 PM | #16 |
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Full vid on LL
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4d_1435073108 |
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June 24th, 2015, 10:48 PM | #17 |
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Throttle hand went completely off the controls when he saw the truck, causing the initial upset of the bike. Panicked and futzed around with throttle and brake instead of focusing on steering.
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June 25th, 2015, 12:11 PM | #18 |
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yes he was leaned over enough to miss the truck if he had stayed the course. The bike got a bit upset when he let go of the gas thereby chopped the throttle, then grabbed the brake which stood him up and into the truck he went.
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June 27th, 2015, 01:17 AM | #19 |
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Well if you're going to crash into someone, couldn't have picked a better one to hit
Link to original page on YouTube.
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June 27th, 2015, 01:41 AM | #20 |
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I sense a thread merge happening soon
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June 27th, 2015, 03:01 AM | #21 |
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Really?! Again? I even checked in videos section and didn't see it before I posted. Radio station Facebook page here in Houston just posted it tonight, however they are notorious for posting things that are way old.
I officially nominate @cadd for "Thread Repeat Checker". This is the second time you have caught my flub. Hopefully it does get merged because it's hard to bitch to my wife, whom has never ridden a motorcycle in her life, about how this guy was essentially fighting against the bike to corner by steering it like you would a BMX bike. She usually just smiles and nod's her head to appease my ranting for what I'm sure it's complete gibberish to her.
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June 27th, 2015, 05:27 AM | #22 |
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just search the youtube extension to see if it has been posted, it works 60% of the time every time
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June 27th, 2015, 05:38 AM | #23 |
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Running the part over just before he hit that truck looks like he was trying to turn the handlebars to the right, not countersteering at all. If he had pushed the right handlebar forward to countersteer out of the truck way he might have been all right. OR if he didn't have a lot of experience he might have went to far to the right and had an accident there or God forbid over the cliff.
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June 27th, 2015, 05:54 AM | #24 |
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June 27th, 2015, 10:19 PM | #26 |
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The amount of counter steer to initiate is not huge. Then the bars fall into the direction of the turn to actually catch the falling bike. It's the only way to steer at speed ... how else was he steering?
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June 28th, 2015, 08:23 AM | #27 |
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I had a good friend do that on a Moto Guzzi when we were kids. The outcome was totally different.
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June 28th, 2015, 04:19 PM | #28 | |
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This is what i picture when watching the full video of the guy riding before the crash. Watch the full vid again of the guy riding before the crash and you should immediately see how he is steering like he is out on the beach riding a 1950's schwinn cruiser.
Link to original page on YouTube.
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June 29th, 2015, 12:35 AM | #29 |
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At 0.25 speed, actually looks like he locked up the breaks and lost steering perhaps.
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June 29th, 2015, 04:05 AM | #30 |
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Yeah, i know we got on the steering subject but his crash did look like he locked up. Either way he could have used some more training or experience before attempting a road like that. Wonder how many accidents are caused by friends going for a ride with one of them being a virgin rider. Experienced rider takes the lead, inexperienced tries to keep up and pays for it. Not sure what the etiquette is for having a ride with a noob. Do you have them take the lead so they are not trying to ride above their skill level? Or do they follow and keep up as best as possible?
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June 29th, 2015, 06:07 AM | #31 |
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He is very lucky the front end didn't wash out and put him on the ground cause the outcome would have been very different.
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