January 3rd, 2016, 05:16 PM | #1 |
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Don't know what's going on. Bought a bike on craiglist. The guy's name was Craig too. actually I knew his son from RC racing. A coincidence. Sweet deal $500.
This bike 2007. Just needs center stand to kick stand and I was going to chop the exhaust. Engine runs. Just has the engine my friend has a 2009 in 2007 bike. Silver plastics are also included but not pictured. 2009 is wrecked with a bent frame. $500 included all these extra parts from the 2009. Trash pile 2007 engine i think. Ran before they took it out. 7600 miles. "Maybe" parts For sale parts I may go street fighter/cafe route. My friend said just get it track ready, which sounds expensive. Already had a street/track car before. Question: If red is the "fast" color. Green is the default color. Black is the cool color. Is silver the boring color? |
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January 3rd, 2016, 05:26 PM | #2 |
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January 13th, 2016, 08:44 PM | #3 |
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(Mods, please move this to pregen Farkles)
Riding season is approaching. Engine runs shittilly. More than likely will need to clean the carbs. Time to study that. It's been a long time since I've had black hands. Ended the night like so: (I love my Mooneyes banner, so Cali.) Would be hilarious to run the the tail like this: (right handle is bent, will get clip-ons) Question: What are these nipples/nozzles? On top of the engine: This is a cable on the carb, running to the clutch lever. What is?
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January 13th, 2016, 10:54 PM | #4 |
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Couldn't keep away.
Played some more. Cleared away electrics. Is this a good one or will this one fry after so many amps? Always like the old school headlight fairing only cafe bikes. Also, mixed with some bosozoku action. Party in the front, business in the rear. Japan 2001. Best time for drifting. Street/broke boy style. Unfortunately, there's fitment issues with mine. Old gen armor - New gen motor clearance: Radiator cap hits a little on the right. Barely clears on the left. zoom in Left side
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January 17th, 2016, 08:08 PM | #5 |
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Mounted newgen tail lights. Did some electrical mounting. This PAWG is coming along great. What's not so great is the damn air box. It almost seems like less trouble to just get pod filters and jets.
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January 19th, 2016, 12:56 PM | #6 |
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It is MUCH simpler to do pods and jets.....
The nozzles you were pointing to were for the EGR/clearn air/whatever you wanna call it system, you can buy a block off plate, and would have to if you remove the airbox anyway. The cable I think is for the choke, not the clutch...I think. Its funny you/PO swapped to the new gen motor. Its known for having slightly LESS power than the pre gens (maybe just because of the lower redline). But you get a little more mid range at least.
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January 20th, 2016, 08:42 AM | #7 | |
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I figured out it was the choke cable when I took the lever apart. Out of curiosity, what are your mods and which jets did you end up using on yours?
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January 20th, 2016, 09:21 AM | #8 |
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I bought the area P full race exhaust and they sell a dyno jet kit with it for a KN filter. I think I used 1 size up from the recommended Jet in the kit and dyno shows I wont be changing it so im happy since I hate carbs. If you want the exact needle size I can go check when im home, its one of the things I never cared to remember since I luckily got it right the first time.
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January 20th, 2016, 12:09 PM | #10 | |
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January 21st, 2016, 07:52 AM | #11 | |
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I don't know the suggested jets for just a filter, I would think 2 sizes up since the bikes are lean stock. Im terrible with anything related to carbs because I just don't care to learn it lol.
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January 21st, 2016, 08:06 AM | #12 |
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Hey, I know what you mean. Just set it and quit it. Tuning is the worst.
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January 21st, 2016, 09:14 AM | #13 |
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I felt like being nice. Here is the jetting database, it should help answer your questions.
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10208
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January 22nd, 2016, 08:35 AM | #14 |
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Thanks a bunch. I'll try 110 jet at first.
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January 27th, 2016, 10:17 AM | #15 |
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These are the correct shims for our carbs? Anyone? Beuller?
http://jetsrus.com/individual_parts/009_396_su.html
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January 27th, 2016, 10:23 AM | #16 |
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Go to Lowes, Home Depot or any well stocked hardware store. Get SAE #4 washers. Should be a few cents for a pack of 10-12.
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January 28th, 2016, 08:50 AM | #17 |
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Thanks!
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January 30th, 2016, 02:40 PM | #18 |
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Nevermind
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February 4th, 2016, 09:22 AM | #19 |
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What sort of improvements would I be looking at with 17" wheels/tires on an otherwise stock suspension (probably just 15wt fork oil)? Mostly just doing it for the bling factor.
I think that chain is that cheap ebay one, but it's less rusty than what was on there.
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February 4th, 2016, 10:12 AM | #20 |
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Improvements from the wheel itself? None. Improvements in tire choice? Endless!
Quite a popular mod in our race club for tire choice.
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February 4th, 2016, 10:22 AM | #21 |
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Sweet. I was afraid it might have adverse effects on handling.
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Something to keep in mind...the rear sizes for the pre and post gen Ninja's come out to the same overall diameter. However, the fronts have a difference of about 13 mm, according to my math, the new gen being taller. Might have to consider that for the front fender and fork height. Might want to run a 140 in the rear. That's what the guys in my club do.
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February 4th, 2016, 11:31 AM | #23 | |
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Don't want to go 140 just yet because that would mean I have to change the swingarm too. Front fender can be raised easily, or run a new gen fender. Thanks for your help!
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February 4th, 2016, 11:46 AM | #24 |
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140 fits in a pre gens swingarm just fine you could even sqweeze in a 150 posably
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February 4th, 2016, 11:47 AM | #25 |
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Oh, I was calculating for BOTH wheels to be 17", not just the front.....If you're going to do just the front, you'll need to lower the fork tubes in the clamps but I'm not sure how much. I'll have to do some maths and let you know.
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February 4th, 2016, 11:51 AM | #26 | |
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February 4th, 2016, 11:52 AM | #27 |
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yea didnt catch the 16 rear
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February 4th, 2016, 11:59 AM | #28 |
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No worries. My bike is retarded.
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February 4th, 2016, 12:06 PM | #29 |
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February 4th, 2016, 12:13 PM | #30 | |
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but is you put the 17" rear also on the 140 will fit. but seeing as your only doing the front for some reason thenthe 16" back is a diffrent game.
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February 4th, 2016, 12:23 PM | #32 |
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I thought in order to run the new gen rear wheel, I need to change the swingarm also?
If I could change both without changing the swingarm, I'd do it.
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February 4th, 2016, 12:31 PM | #33 |
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you dont but it does take some work. The brake caliper holder on the rear on the swing arm side has to be milled down some, and then the brake its self has to be tweeked over to get in line with the rotor. i dont remember the exact amounts of it all but it is doable, z1rrider knows and can give you the full detales if you ask nicely.
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February 4th, 2016, 01:18 PM | #34 |
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/moved to pre-gen farkles
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February 4th, 2016, 06:18 PM | #35 | |
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It's a stock R/R (for the PreGen and EX500), which will do what stock ones do. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...639#post801639 and my following posts have a good bit of info about them. They're capable of putting out about 20A (~250W). They "fry" due to the electronics inside breaking down due to heat (exacerbated by the fact that this style is rather inefficient, causing it to generate even more heat). https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=213507 has info about the MOSFET conversion.
Because of the heat issues, you may wish to mount the R/R elsewhere. Ideally you'd want it out in the airflow and/or bolted to a large piece of metal to act as a heatsink. Quote:
NewGen/300 swingarms are pretty cheap. I'm not sure how much it would cost to get the full rear axle setup (with all the spacers, brake bracket, etc.), but my understanding is that it should be a pretty PnP swap if you were to get all those parts. It means buying a few more things, but it should save a bunch of work trying to make things fit. I got lucky with my bike in that the axle stuff is mostly identical between the NewGen and 500.
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Ok, let's do some Maths! As my favorite YouTuber would say....
100/80-16 front. 16 inches is 406 mm. 80% of 100 mm is 80 mm, that gives us an overall diameter of 486 mm. 110/70-17 front. 17 inches is 432 mm. 70% of 110mm is 77mm, giving us an overall diamter of 509 mm. That's a difference of 23mm! This would definitely affect your handling, simply swapping front to front and not changing tire size. I can't recommend a front wheel swap without swapping the rear too. Sure, you could get a 100/70-17 for the front but that's only good for 7 mm, leaving a 16 mm difference. IMO, you would need to increase rear ride height 16mm to offset the difference. I don't like dropping the forks in the clamps, especially with undersprung bikes because the tire could hit the fairing. Up to you! If my math is off, feel free to correct me.
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Rear tires....
130/80-16. 16 inches is 406mm. 80% of 130 is 104mm, giving the rear overall 510mm. Increasing the size to a 150/60-16...406mm plus 90mm (smaller height!) is only 496mm. You would need a 150/80-16 and I'm not sure that would fit properly or at all.
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Well, I've reached an impasse. This project has been done in by the cooling system.
The new gen water plumbing and pre gen frame don't mix without custom fabrication of which I'm incapable of doing. This one may be parted soon. Unless, someone knows a secret to making this work. I may just pick up another one that isn't crazy. I've learned a lot about this bike.
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