August 5th, 2015, 01:34 PM | #1 |
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Just got a Sena SMH10R Bluetooth Pack
We just got a two-pack of the Sena SMH10R Bluetooth gizmos. Main use is for intercom when we ride together (most weekends) but haven't had a chance to test it out on a road trip yet. We did link them up and test them in the house, we looked pretty awesome walking around inside talking to each other through our helmets with mirrored visors down.
Initial setup was a bit frustrating, as I couldn't get their manager software to recognize the devices to update the firmware on Mac OSX. Switched over to Windows and it worked fine. It took some experimentation to figure out the best place for the speakers and microphone but I ended up with a clean install that's still comfortable. My wife said that she can't even tell that anything is different on the inside of her helmet. We have Scorpion EXO-R410's and they have spots for speakers already in the liner. This is the slim profile unit made for sport bike riders so the battery is separate and it's mounted on the back of the helmet. Phone pairing was easy, and once it pairs to your phone it will automatically re-pair when you turn it on. That's a nice feature because I don't need it on all the time but it's convenient to connect it just by turning the helmet unit on with my phone still in my pocket. I've used it for GPS directions, which worked really well. Much better than looking down at the GPS or written directions. I tried listening to music but I actually didn't like it as I prefer to focus on the ride and safety. Sound quality for music is pretty bad, but that's not why we bought them anyway. On an iphone it pulls up Siri if you hold the button and you can send text messages, make calls etc. I've sent a few messages at stoplights, and have called my wife a few times when I was on a slow road with no traffic. The sound quality on both ends is great - she couldn't even tell that I was on my bike even with my visor up at 35 mph except at very high revs. The speakers can get quite loud, much louder than I'd want. I didn't have any problems hearing directions even at high speeds with my visor down or up. The intercom has a feature that lets you connect to the most recent intercom friend by speaking loudly or blowing into the mic. Will report back once we test it out on a ride together, but thus far we're very happy with them and glad we got them. The pack of 2 was $300 from Amazon and comes with everything you need. Also includes a boom mic if you have a modular or 3/4 helmet. So far I'd give them 9/10 for the firmware/manager software issues.
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August 5th, 2015, 01:36 PM | #2 |
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Good to hear. I was looking at getting a set as my daughter learns to ride.
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August 5th, 2015, 05:55 PM | #3 |
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I was looking at the SMH10R series, and I'll defiantly rake this into consideration.
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August 5th, 2015, 06:31 PM | #4 |
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My wife and I have been using them this year. I went on a trip with a bunch of sena users,it was a blast
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August 6th, 2015, 06:13 AM | #5 |
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Some of the setup examples they have in the manual are nuts - like 4 users each paired to their own smartphone, all paired to a shared bluetooth music device and shared bluetooth gps, 4-way intercom, one user is paired to a non-sena group of intercom users who are paired to a CB hub that's paired to all truck drivers in the area.
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August 6th, 2015, 09:02 AM | #6 |
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We had one pairing that was to the guy with the 20, all 8 people in the group. Then there was another pairing to the front group, one to the back group, and I had my phone and my zumo connected.
The cb thing would be pretty cool! Lol
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August 6th, 2015, 09:06 AM | #7 |
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I need to figure out the fancy pairings. My 5 has only ever been to my phone and iPad, or phone and one other user.
Be cool to have someone act as a hub to link a whole group.
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August 6th, 2015, 09:08 AM | #8 |
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I used to play on the CB when I occasionally drove a reefer truck at my old job, from my experience it seems that trucker chatter falls into one of three categories:
1. Alerts to the location of highway patrol 2. Political/Religious/NSFW rants 3. Completely unintelligible mumbling
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August 6th, 2015, 09:38 AM | #11 |
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Yeah it took me a while to figure out what they were saying, I forget the terms they used but it certainly wasn't as clear as "there's a cop sitting here"
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"the jelly has left the doughnut" hahaa
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I love my SMH10-11. I like that the speakers and mic are permanently mounted in the helmet, but I can pop the "brain" off if needed. I generally take it with me when I leave my helmet on the bike while in the store or whatever.
I've only ever used it linked to my phones, but it works great for music and GPS (Waze has some voice-activated stuff, but it doesn't seem to be tied into the standard/Siri voice stuff of the iPhone).
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April 25th, 2016, 12:24 PM | #14 |
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I was just looking at the Sena SMH10R, primarily as a bike-to-bike intercom. How would you rate the reliability/range of the intercom? It seems this unit gets a lot of really good reviews, but I read a few that said the intercom didn't work well for them. Is it using Bluetooth or another type of radio to communicate between the bikes (I would think Bluetooth wouldn't be strong enough)?
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But I do love it as a bike to bike intercom. So far we have only done 3 of us in the group. It's great to have a normal conversation at speeds up to about 70 mph. We have talked at speeds faster than that, but it gets a little difficult with all the wind noise. For some reason my daughters unit seems to pick up more wind noise than mine or my sons. I think it has to do with how her mike is mounted and her helmet vents. My daughter and I have the SMH10R and my son has the SMH10-10. My son does occasionally bump the dial on his when he turns his head and it disconnects him from the group. But a touch brings it back. |
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I don't think the SMH10R ads much wind noise. Although I haven't taken it off my helmet to compare. I leave mine on all the time, even when I commute. I sync to my phone. One nice thing about that is that my phone sends a "I'm Driving" reply automatically so people don't expect a text back. My wife and kids know I won't text back, but they can call if it is important. I have a Galaxy 5 and it's supposed to allow me to voice control text but it doesn't work very well. I have to touch the phone (with gloves off) to get the voice text to start. Answering a call is just a touch on the Sena (with gloves on). |
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Thanks for the feedback.
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April 25th, 2016, 04:13 PM | #20 |
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I have a pair of the original SENA SMH10's and they are fantastic! Good choice in a helmet bluetooth system.
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It just occurred to me as I was reading the spec sheet that lithium polymer batteries are the ones that like to explode/catch fire. So how likely is the risk that your head might catch fire in the unfortunate event of your helmet contacting the ground during a crash? (I'm going to buy it anyway, but it would be good to understand the risks.)
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I had to set what happens when you hit the sena button though. The nexus 6 is way easier, since everything is already google. Now I just have to learn the commands for my 20S
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My only real complaint with the smh10r unit is that the low battery warning is inaudible above 40mph with my helmet. Given, it's not necessarily a valid complaint because my helmet catches a lot of wind and is loud -- but I'll be listening to music and all of a sudden it will shut off.
Have to pull over and turn the unit back on, then re-start the music and keep riding. If it happens a second time within 30 seconds I've learned that it's because the battery is dead. Above 40mph and I can't hear the "Low battery" warning. Call quality and clarity is excellent with the microphone mounted in the chin area, most people can't tell I'm talking while riding on a bike because the audio is top-notch. Haven't tried the intercom feature or anything other than music and calls. Only other real complaint is that the sound quality sucks. There's no bass and it's as if I'm listening through 10 year old blown out car speakers. Does anyone know the impedance of the helmet speakers? I've been considering cutting them out and soldering some in-ear monitors instead on a long enough pigtail to insert them into my ears and then put the helmet on. Something like these.. I haven't done it yet because I'm not ready to hack into a system that is working and my past use of in ear monitors like the ones in the picture completely destroy any situational awareness because they effectively seal out 99% of all ambient noise. Literally can't even hear the bike and have to shift based on the vibration feel through the pegs.
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So I've been riding around with my new SMH10r for about two days, and haven't ventured very far into its features. I've got it pared to my phone and tested a couple calls, and music. Although I haven't tested the intercom yet, that was the primary reason for purchase. I did buy the dual pack, and they come paired to each other.
I noticed a strange behavior each time (2 or 3 now) I enter HWY50 from the Prairie City on-ramp behind Intel (Folsom / Sac people will know it). My music cuts for a moment and I get an "intercom failure to connect" warning, or something similar to that. Today this happened every so often until I exited the freeway 5 or so miles later. I don't think this has happened on surface streets. Am I picking up some interference from a trucker, Intel, etc.?
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When that happens on my SMH5, I noticed it was my shoulder lightly bumping the button activating the intercom. If no one is in range/paired with you, it'll fail to connect. Happens mostly when going over bumpy surfaces or turning my head.
Granted, I have a bigger button than you, but might be similar?
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I figured out the problem. Since it was in vox mode, the wind levels from the freeway would constantly be trying to open communication. Tapping the center button to end communication didn't seem to work when it was hunting for a connection. It's funny that yelling into the mike on the street didn't do the same thing, but turning vox off solved the freeway problem.
I've now had the opportunity to test it with it's partner a couple times, and it works pretty well, but with vox on - which is the mode we use, I do hear wind over comms from the other bike. This is even at slower 50ish speeds. Overall it's a handy unit. I'd like to see it handle wind noise a little better, and speakers that are not so shrill. If I don't have earplugs in the shrillness from the speakers hurts my ears, but earplugs cut a lot off the lower frequencies, and balance it out decently.
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