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I quit watching after the folks started flying, I knew what happened
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August 10th, 2016, 10:18 AM | #42 |
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It's a good point about the possibility of doing damage when realigning something that has come out of place. I don't have the training for that, so I would be keeping things in the current/displaced alignment.
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August 10th, 2016, 10:36 AM | #43 |
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August 10th, 2016, 11:03 AM | #45 |
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another very interesting item to note in this video is the comment made near the end by the guy with the camera.
He turns to the driver of the car the motorcycle hit and he says, "Didn't you see us?" It's a human psychological protective mechanism that immediately kicks in after an event like this: the mind immediately begins reshaping the history of the moment into something you can live with later in life. The camera guy was the third motorcycle into the intersection and at that moment in time you can be sure he knew for absolute certain that the first two bikes had run a red light. But in the immediate aftermath his mind is already reconstructing the memory into something he prefers. This is the psychological mechanism that helps (some) people to side-step the effect we now call Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. I can just about guarantee that if two years from now you could find this guy (the camera guy) and ask him whether the light was red or was green, he would tell you it was green. |
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August 10th, 2016, 03:49 PM | #50 |
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well. on the plus side, she can get an awesome cane to help with the permanent limp she'll have to deal with.
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August 10th, 2016, 04:35 PM | #51 | |
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August 11th, 2016, 04:11 AM | #52 | |
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August 11th, 2016, 09:25 AM | #53 |
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The "reshaping" of the memory of the crash is to help him remember it being "not his fault." He won't want to be the one responsible for the girl's injury.
But, dude, asking a guy going through a green light why they didn't stop for you running the red is asinine. |
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August 12th, 2016, 12:18 PM | #54 |
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I know alot of people like the "causal look" including myself.
would these have saved her foot from being severed? http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...s#overview_tab |
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August 12th, 2016, 12:19 PM | #55 |
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Bout as much as armored flip flops
I have some A* bike shoes like that... Wore them a few times, didn't feel much safer than high tops
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August 12th, 2016, 01:20 PM | #56 | |
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August 12th, 2016, 01:21 PM | #57 |
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I went and got real boots and haven't even seen the "shoes" since... They are around here somewhere though... Should sell them to a
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August 12th, 2016, 01:34 PM | #58 |
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August 12th, 2016, 01:37 PM | #59 |
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August 12th, 2016, 01:42 PM | #60 |
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Not true there is some good mesh gear.
Why do you think anyone who rides at highway speeds and does not fully protect themselves is a squid?
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August 12th, 2016, 01:42 PM | #61 |
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The only folks I know around here who liked my shoes were all squids, I figured I'd sell them to one of these folks... I didn't say anything about folks in full leathers; most of them wear full race suits when we ride
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August 12th, 2016, 01:45 PM | #62 |
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I like them they make for good in town riding? no? like commuting to work or to the store?
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They don't feel good to walk in, they have no arch support, they aren't comfortable really/ or on the bike for extended periods, you sure can feel the pegs in them though, just don't step on any rocks I liked them too, but I like my feet more
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August 12th, 2016, 01:52 PM | #64 |
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It's your body, you can choose what you want to wear... Heck ride in a bikini and flip flops all you want
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August 12th, 2016, 01:54 PM | #67 |
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Can you wear a mens 8??? Pay for shipping and you can try them out, if you still like them after they hurt your feet I will cut you a sweet deal on them
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August 12th, 2016, 01:57 PM | #68 |
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August 12th, 2016, 02:05 PM | #69 |
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I wear 6.5W haha I can't find fitting shoes in stores often, I just buy something close
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August 13th, 2016, 07:22 AM | #71 |
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So back on the first aid thing....
If you are alone and sever a part or are bleeding badly (dying). Remember your exhaust is very hot and pressing the body part against it might help cotterize the wound.
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August 13th, 2016, 09:04 AM | #73 |
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That's hardcore
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That's some seen in the movies stuff... It works if it's hot enough though
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You're getting some exaggerated answers about the A* riding shoes. They do have some plastic armor in them and use "abrasion-resistant" material. I'm sure they're better than a pair of regular shoes.
The question comes down to how much better they are. They have a lot of compromises compared to dedicated boots, as others have pointed out. Depending the details of an accident, they may completely protect your foot/ankle from any injury. It's possible that the girl in the video may have had the exact same results while wearing these. Without parallel universes or tons of very precise experimenting, it's all what-if's and speculation. Only you can decide what tradeoffs you're willing to accept in your own gear. Many here will point out that a little extra cost or inconvenience may greatly improve your chance of avoiding injury, and they think that's a very good value. Some people figure they'll either never be in an accident or won't survive anyway and choose to wear no gear whatsoever. You have to determine what levels of risk are acceptable to you personally.
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August 13th, 2016, 04:46 PM | #76 |
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With the impact she took, I think even my race boots would have left me injured. Maybe not as bad. The big issue here was the riding, not the gear.
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I carry a tourniquet, sometimes 2, and usually a first aid kit
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Tourniquets are much better. Rip up a shirt, use a sock or a belt, tie it tight and stop the bleeding.
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