December 5th, 2008, 09:13 PM | #1 |
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Chain Lubes
I'm trying to find a good chain lube, and ran across this stuff the other day:
http://www.classicchevy.com/product....15&dept_id=121 Now it doesn't say anything about O-rings, so I'm asking if anyone has used this before. It does say it is for chains, gears, bearings and hinges. I'm trying to find a good chain lube, and so far I've tried Renthal Chain Lube and Harley Davidson High Performance Lube. Also, what are some places to buy more Du Pont and Maxima products, besides the internet, as I am having trouble finding those. |
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December 5th, 2008, 09:32 PM | #2 |
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I purchased some Maxima chain lube at the Kawi dealership when I had them swap my sprockets. I imagine any dealership with a parts shop will carry some.
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December 5th, 2008, 10:03 PM | #3 |
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Can't help you on where to buy, but this what I use after years of searching for just the right lube...
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December 5th, 2008, 10:15 PM | #4 |
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That's the stuff I've been trying to find, but nobody has it up here!
The kawi dealer doesn't have it, so Ima try Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda dealers. |
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December 5th, 2008, 10:16 PM | #5 |
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December 5th, 2008, 10:53 PM | #6 |
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I've been using Repsol chain lube. Just finished that bottle and I switched over to Bel Ray Super Clean chain lube to see what that is like. Leaves a white layer that supposedly keep dirt out. http://www.belray.com/consumer/product.fsp?pid=13616Don't know if I like it yet.
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December 6th, 2008, 03:11 PM | #7 |
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December 6th, 2008, 03:18 PM | #8 |
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haha you guys said "lube"
but seriously thought..what difference do "better chain lubes" have over crappy one |
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December 6th, 2008, 03:26 PM | #9 |
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December 6th, 2008, 04:11 PM | #10 |
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makes since.
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December 6th, 2008, 04:17 PM | #11 |
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Especially since we don't have a rear fender like some bikes do.
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December 6th, 2008, 07:07 PM | #12 |
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December 6th, 2008, 10:55 PM | #13 | |
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December 7th, 2008, 10:52 AM | #14 |
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Absolute best chain lube hands-down:
Dupont multi-purpose lube with teflon. http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motor...chain-lube.htm Been using this stuff for years now. Only place I can find it in SoCal is Lowe's. |
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December 8th, 2008, 09:22 PM | #15 |
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I got my chain wax from http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Chain-Wax.aspx
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December 8th, 2008, 09:39 PM | #16 |
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The guy at the Kawi dealership sold me on Fuchs Synthetic Race Lube. Seems to work great and no fling.
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December 9th, 2008, 12:24 PM | #18 |
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Well, with the miles that I put on (300 or so miles a week) I went to a Scottoiler automatic chain lubrication system. While it was kinda expensive, the chain is constantly kept lubricated without a lot of mess and seems to last a lot longer. I bought mine from one of the US distributors RiderStation.
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December 9th, 2008, 08:16 PM | #19 |
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LOL yeah...it is real! I swear (and not the curse type swear)! See: http://www.silkolene.com/images/prod...ro%20chain.jpg and http://www.silkolene.com/index.php?c...b=race#race_p9
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December 10th, 2008, 05:37 PM | #20 |
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Success! I've finally got my hands on some maxima chain lube.
But today I will be busy putting my LED footpeg blinkers on |
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December 11th, 2008, 01:59 AM | #21 |
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ive been using some motul chain lubricant and it seems alright. I havnet been really lubing the chain alot since i havnet been riding alot...
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December 11th, 2008, 07:07 PM | #22 |
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I like the Maxxima Chain Wax. Seems to work really well. I have been uaing it on my rcing bikes (bicycles) as well and have found it to be vastly superior to the chain lubes available for bicycles.
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December 14th, 2008, 01:45 PM | #23 |
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I gotta say, Belray Chain lube is by far THE #1 best lube I've EVER used. I've used quite a few and I think this stuff is great. It sprays on and dries a white color. It will not fling off and is not graphite based like a lot of cheaper lubes.
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December 14th, 2008, 03:04 PM | #24 |
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I think that all the chain lubes out there have their place. If you ride in a dry dusty area, the dry lubes work best. In wet areas, the wet ones do a better job shedding water. I find that Kerosene cleans chains the best. Then after a thorough wiping and a good blast with the compressor, one applies the lube. I found the Maxxima Chain Wax was a bit of overkill for my racing bicycles, so I went back to Pro-Road, by Finish Line. I know that with bicycles a clean chain can make a difference between winning and losing a race. A dirty chain can generate an incredible amount of friction and sprocket wear.
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December 14th, 2008, 03:44 PM | #26 |
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Kelly, Tri-Flow is great in wet weather. We have pretty dry summers here, so most of us use a dry lube. In the winter we use Tri-Lube or Finish Line Wet. I do like the Maxxima Chain Wax for the Ninja. I buy the stuff in bulk--so I stay with the one brand. I am going to try to set up an account with Maxxima and see if I can get the stuff in bulk.
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December 27th, 2008, 01:25 PM | #27 |
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Have you ever tried waxing the bicycle chains? That's what I use on my Cannondale Triathlon Bike. I wonder if it would work with motorcycle chains; however, I don't know if the o-rings could withstand the heat needed to melt the wax.
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December 27th, 2008, 02:48 PM | #28 |
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g21-30, Amazing how many bicyclists we have on this forum. The Pro Road by Finish Line is a wax based lube. Great stuff! Cannondale is a super bike. My best friend is the Cannondale dealer here in town. I build my own bikes up from framesets. My main road bike is an Eddy Merckx Premium Scandium frame with Easton CF fork, seatpost, and stem. I also have a Fuji that I set up for TT. Just finished restoring/upgrading a 40 year old Univega Comprtitzione. Those hand welded lugs are a work of art. The Tange Chromemolly rides like velvet. Am now finishing a touring bike which will also be my commuter. Everything five miles and under is pedalled--grocery store, errands etc. Over five miles, and I get to ride the Ninja. When the weather is bad, I use the cage. Do you know if Maxxima makes their chain wax in non aerosol? Aerosols are such a rip-off.
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Have you used a double boiler to wax your bicycle chains before? I too built my triathlon bike from a Cannondale frameset 22 years ago!! All DuraAce components, the Scott Aero Bar (old technology, now), and Look pedals. |
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December 27th, 2008, 03:17 PM | #30 |
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That`s a trip. I have Scott aerobars on my Merckx and use Look pedals exclusively. All my bikes with the exception of the touring bike run the 105 Grouppo with one modification--Aluminum jockey wheels with bearings. You are right, the double boiler is the way to go for waxing chains.
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December 27th, 2008, 05:09 PM | #31 |
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Alex Allmayer,
Do you think the double boiler would work with the motorcycle chain? I checked my Kawa.. chain today (200 miles) and it appears to have been waxed. It's very clean. |
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December 28th, 2008, 08:58 AM | #32 |
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The two Kawa dealers here use the Maxxima Chain Wax. The way I lube the chain is to clean it with kerosene, wipe down with paper towels, blow any excess off with a compressor, warm the chain up with a hair dryer-low.,apply the Maxxima Chain Wax, wipe the chain down with paper towels. I would hesitate to try the double boiler with an O ring chain. It would also necessitate breaking the chain with a chain tool. Every time you break a chain, you weaken it. I have not looked at quick links for motorcycle chains. I have them on my bikes.
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December 28th, 2008, 10:36 AM | #33 |
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Alex Allmayer,
Thanks for the detail. That's exactly what I will do, when it comes time. |
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May 16th, 2009, 11:53 AM | #34 | |
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$6-7 at Lowe's...cleans and lubes in one step...goes on like WD-40 and dries into wax. |
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June 20th, 2009, 08:39 PM | #35 | |
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I'm sure i'm going to get flamed for this but i read in the manual (page 115 in the 09 manual) that a heavy lube like SAE90 is recomended. Went to my local canadian tire and they had SAE but it's for boats....nothing motorcycle specific.
This is the stuff. Shell Nautilus SAE 90 Quote:
Is it all the same? or should i return this and by some form of spray like mentioned above?
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June 20th, 2009, 09:07 PM | #36 |
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The problem with using a heavy gear oil is that they will get 'flung off'; that heavy gear oil will fling off as the chain spins, mucking up you back wheel and splattering on your pants.
The spray on waxes are better in my opinion.
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June 20th, 2009, 09:12 PM | #37 |
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I recently switched to this:
dupont_teflon_lube.jpg It has received great reviews and does seem to "lube" the chain fairly well while staying clean and not flying off. I used to use this: Very good stuff.
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June 20th, 2009, 09:59 PM | #38 |
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have you noticed any differnce between the 2? I presently use the chain wax.
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June 21st, 2009, 06:43 AM | #39 |
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We probably get more wrapped up in WHICH chain wax/lube to use, and how, and perhaps miss the most important point: Actually doing the service. I mean, really, what we always end up discussing is that last 1%, and each of us have such different needs when it comes to that. Some of us fend off dust, others salt air, others basic humidity, some lots of rain. That's why there are so many different products, they all service that last 1%, since the other 99% of the components of each product are basically the same.
The product, to a point, is less important than actually using it. We're not the ones having the problem, it's the owners who don't think about or perform regular chain maintenance.
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June 21st, 2009, 12:06 PM | #40 |
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I finally got around to lubing my chain yesterday. Unfortunately all the bike stores were closed when I decided to do it, so I picked up the only thing available at Canadian Tire: http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...=TUC_53-6012_G
Can't really tell how it works yet. It definitely looks good, being clear. It was very tacky going on, but I don't have any other lubes to compare that to. I'm still trying to find out the easiest way to get some of the dupont lube, since they don't sell it in Western Canada. |
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