October 6th, 2018, 04:07 AM | #1 |
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Theoretical jacket idea...
Ok so this is going to sound weird really really weird. As a hobby I weave chain mail (no not emails, the medieval armor) stainless steel rings 4-1 weave 14 gauge wire. Terrible vs impact but seems invincible vs abrasion couple that over a padded jacket (yes a short sleeve is 16lbs) and it seems like a good idea but this is an idea.
I have the supplies to make a full sleeve shirt large enough to wear over a jacket tightly and the supplies to make chain mail pants (those suck unless woven with care for sizing to the individual to prevent flapping loose bits) is this an idea I should start on in the non riding season?
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October 6th, 2018, 06:37 AM | #2 |
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Epic Monty Python and the Holy Grail aspect aside, I'd HATE to have to wear a 16 lb shirt in addition to my regular gear. That would get fatiguing really fast, I think.
Plus there's the whole tank-scratching thing. For reference, my track gear (helmet, suit, boots, gloves) totals about 25 lbs but that's spread over my whole body.
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October 6th, 2018, 02:43 PM | #3 |
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Besides the comfort due to weight and the tank scratching issue, it still seems like an idea that may at the very least provide a level of entertainment right? I might just start on it in winter
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October 7th, 2018, 01:13 AM | #4 |
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I can imagine you sliding down the road in a shower of sparks.
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October 7th, 2018, 04:40 AM | #5 |
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do you have some pics to share of your handiwork?
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October 7th, 2018, 05:21 AM | #6 |
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First pic. A good idea of what I have right now. Second pic. Some of my aluminum (silver and black are the only steel) third pic. Idea of ring size. Fourth pic a shirt “blank” my hand for scale. Fifth. Some belts I have leftover from last sale.
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October 7th, 2018, 05:23 AM | #7 |
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Right?! Just imagine the scraping noises lol bumping a coffe table sounds like a car wreck
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October 21st, 2018, 10:27 PM | #8 |
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Cool! You do nice work!
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October 22nd, 2018, 02:56 AM | #9 |
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very interesting
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October 22nd, 2018, 02:58 AM | #10 |
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In theory it sounds like a great idea.
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October 23rd, 2018, 01:47 AM | #11 |
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In theory yes...I’m having a hard time justifying the added weight and struggling to remove “slop” the thing that happens with chain mail it’s all floppy floppy and very very hard to get suitably tight and still be able to move.
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October 23rd, 2018, 08:03 PM | #12 |
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Not sure about the moto gear aspect, but I dig that you make chain mail... from the n00b perspective anyway.
Cool stuff!
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October 23rd, 2018, 08:10 PM | #13 |
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Considering I’m new at this I would imagine some much larger company has already had this idea and since it’s not mainstream I’ll probably relegate chainmail to the non moto world. Cannot imagine I’m the first person to have this thought. Lol
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October 23rd, 2018, 09:55 PM | #14 |
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Maybe chain mail sandwiched between fabric layers or kevlar in order to keep it in place? Conceptually, I like the idea of chain mail but getting in and out might be challenging. Putting it with other layers could keep it in place, and in a crash the fabric would rub off but the chain mail would then take the brunt of the abrasion.
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October 24th, 2018, 06:17 AM | #15 |
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We'll give you a new title if you do. Billy Gibbons really did that once long ago, but it was a spherical steel cage instead of mail.
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October 24th, 2018, 02:45 PM | #16 | |
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If you wanted to use steel as an abrasion layer, then sowing steel cables or thin strips into a garment would achieve the same goal with less weight than chain mail. You could also used steel netting. Both are relatively light & flexible. I’d leave chain mail for the knights, but would suggest that Titanium mail would be awesome or even 7075 alloy, much lighter than steel, just as tough & no rust ! If you laser welded the rings, it would be incredibly durable to. YMMV |
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October 24th, 2018, 03:19 PM | #17 |
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True regarding the Kevlar it does defeat the purpose of chainmail. I was almost thinking a simple long sleeve chain shirt and weaving 550 cord into the rows of rings to provide more shape and hold it tighter. I’ll start this experiment this weekend. Shirt will take 4 months to complete at the minimum
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October 24th, 2018, 09:41 PM | #18 |
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I'm interested in your experiment.
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October 25th, 2018, 02:31 AM | #19 |
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I’ll get back to this in a few months lol
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October 25th, 2018, 01:41 PM | #20 |
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October 25th, 2018, 02:01 PM | #21 |
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No that’s my estimate based on my amount of time I am willing to spend a week on this.
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October 25th, 2018, 05:34 PM | #22 |
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What is your expected total hours?
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October 25th, 2018, 08:22 PM | #23 |
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60? Depends on pace. Motivation and how badly plier bitten my hands are.
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November 22nd, 2018, 01:10 AM | #24 |
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Sure it could handle abrasion but definitely it may have the possibility of getting broken on some of the chain thus having this fragments that might puncture yourself.
But it is still a hell of an idea imo.
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November 22nd, 2018, 07:49 AM | #25 |
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Be careful, you may be selling millions of them.
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July 30th, 2019, 03:58 PM | #26 |
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I know this is old, but thought is was a cool idea. What if instead of a hole suit, just patches on the parts that would touch the ground. There isn’t a ton of leather on my jacket with the stretch panels and breathable bits. I’m sure it could make a real nice mad max look.
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Look at the Kevlar riding jeans, they aren't completely lined in kevlar, just the knees and butt areas. What about making a riding jacket that was part leather or maybe macrame' 550 cord with chain mail in the elbows, shoulders and back? Heck even my leather jacket has reinforced double layers in the elbows and shoulders. A leather jacket with chain mail in the elbows and shoulders would look pretty mad max. |
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