March 10th, 2010, 09:59 PM | #1 |
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Smoking hell!
Well winter is pretty much done here, we have had one of the best winters I have ever seen. No major snowstorm (we are usually bombarded with a few feet, several times a year), and snow isn't melted till May. This year we are a few months ahead!
That said, I stored the ninja last November, winterized it and all. Added a bit of oil to the gas tank to prevent corrosion.. drained the carbs, and whatever you can think of... I did it. So, I start the bike after a few turns and It starts, no problem at all. But when I rev over 7-8k RPM, the thing smokes like there was no tomorrow, a thick line of smoke just come out the bike's exhaust like a jet in the sky (not that bad really.. ) I'm honestly not too concerned about this, because I'm pretty sure it's the left over oil in the tank, burning up. I would still like someones feedback as reassurance. The bike is running well and was running well when stored. Thanks, Jon |
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March 10th, 2010, 10:46 PM | #2 |
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Oil smokes like crazy when burned.
I put too much oil on my CRX many years ago. Can never have too much right? WRONG! lol The 580 never saw such a cloud of smoke before me.
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March 10th, 2010, 11:04 PM | #3 |
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Thanks, the percentage of oil was approximately 5%-7%. I guess it'll stop smoking after the tank drains.
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March 10th, 2010, 11:08 PM | #4 |
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The heavier oil may have settled in your carb bowls.
Sea foam or even baby oil might be a better alternative??? |
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March 10th, 2010, 11:11 PM | #5 |
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I've been scared of putting things in my gas tanks since my cousin put sand in my tri-zinger when we were kids.
Ruined my summer. Lucky I don't have to winterize.
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March 11th, 2010, 12:13 AM | #6 |
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drain the remaining gas and refill w/ fresh gas. you could end up w/ gummed up rings if you burn the whole tank of gas.
why did you add oil to the gas anyway? |
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March 11th, 2010, 05:16 AM | #7 |
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Hey kkim, I didn't actually add oil to the gas. I added some oil to the empty tank when winterizing it, then I drained the oil from the tank before putting it back on the bike, but some oil remained in it, then I added gas and started it. I'm gonna drain it after school today, I don't want anything gumming up on me.
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March 11th, 2010, 06:02 AM | #8 |
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That would leave quite a bit of an oil layer on your gas tank's inside.. no wonder you're burning oil ! Theres not much you can do except draining your tank, use that gas mixed with oil for your lawn mower or something and putting in fresh gas, and maybe a bit of seafoam just to clean it a bit, though I would think gas alone would clean that remaining oil...Your tank wouldn't have rusted if you filled it with gas all the way to the top..after all..gas IS oil.. You might risk gunking up the cats, I would drain your gas tank at least once and put in fresh gas again.
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March 11th, 2010, 07:53 AM | #9 |
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We are in the same boat, it is raining here this morning, but knowing manitoba, we are still going to get a foot of snow in april or may.....I really hope not. The ninjette is still sleeping though, might start thinking of putting her back together by the end of the month.
I agree with flushing the tank, oil and gas is good for small engines just not ours. Full tank of gas and seafoam is a better idea for next year. Didn't the oil eventually run off the sides of the tank and pool in the bottom?? That's what I would have expected it to do
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March 11th, 2010, 09:10 AM | #10 |
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Seafoam is not a fuel stabilizer. You need to get Stabil.
You put Stabil into a full tank (tank should be full to prevent water condensation over the cold winter) and go for a short ride or run the engine for 5 min to distribute it throughout the fuel system. There is no reason to drain carbs with Stabil in the fuel, and then seals and rubbers etc won't dry out. |
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March 11th, 2010, 10:12 AM | #11 | |
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From here: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html "As a fuel system additive, Sea Foam will clean fuel injectors, clean carbon, gum and varnish deposits, add lubricity to fuel, stabilize fuel for 2 years and control moisture." I was told it was originally used to cure problems that fishing fleets were having with equipment that was only used seasonally... |
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March 11th, 2010, 11:07 AM | #12 |
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March 11th, 2010, 11:17 AM | #13 |
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My experience has been that the Stabil tends to eat the rubber parts such as diaphragms...so I switched to Sea foam and have had zero issues since... ????
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March 11th, 2010, 11:22 AM | #14 |
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OK. just my opinion that stabil worked better, was designed/marketed as that. And I have heard the same comments regarding the two on different forums also. I've have no problems with it. So, whatever works for you, works.
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March 11th, 2010, 04:23 PM | #15 |
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so... for the OP: I would def drain the tank. I've never heard of anyone putting oil in their tank? but this is all new to me so idk.
second note? can anyone second that seafoam is a stabilizer? because if so im gona start using that considering it does so many other things as well.
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March 11th, 2010, 06:49 PM | #16 | |
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"Seafoam was developed originally for the marine market, hence the name. Fred Fandrei, the founder of Seafoam, showed Evinrude Outboard Motors how to solve their stale fuel, varnish and carbon problems with its use. Because the product worked so well, and after many years of experimentation, Seafoam became a great problem solver in the automotive after market as well. Seafoam is a 100% petroleum product and can be used in all engines including diesels." From: http://mechdb.com/index.php/Seafoam The big question is " Has the formula changed since it's introduction?". Seems like there are many products that are great out of the gate. Then a big corporation buys the name and changes the formula to "maximize" profit, which always degrades the product. Who knows?? Like it is said above; whatever works! |
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March 12th, 2010, 10:25 PM | #17 | |
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March 19th, 2010, 03:46 PM | #18 |
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If you read the bottle of Seafoam it indicates that it has many uses including stabilizing fuel.
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