June 13th, 2010, 01:18 AM | #1 |
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My 2001 to 2008-10 conversion
Hi all,
I've got a cheap 2000 frame/motor/wheels/tire(yes single atm) for real cheap a while back. I've been building the thing up for the past year and half now, part here and there from eBay. My goal has been to keep this under $1k from start to finish with maybe the exception of fairings. So far the bulk of the build up has been with 88-07 generation parts but I've recently decided to start seeing what I can crossover from the 08-10 line. Most parts seem to be no brainers. My biggest obstacle yet is my 09'gas tank on my 2000 frame. I'm going to be cutting a 4" length and re angling it downward and welding it into place to make way for the peacock of the tank. This has been a slow moving project 1.) I'm a student 2.)I work 40+hrs 3.)I'm married 4.)I'm spending money on this very sparingly(however I've just splurged $100 on some more parts). I'll post pictures up in the next few days of stuff I've done over the course and what it currently looks like. Basically I know there are a lot of you who will ask why I don't just buy a +08' and enjoy it instead of spending so much time working on it. First off I have a 35cc honda, 50cc yamaha, 50cc kymco, 150cc chinese. So I ride a lot, maybe no where near as fast, but regardless I ride everyday. Additionally one of my roommates dropped his oil drain bolt(on his 05' ninja) and ended up with some shaved up bushings which you can imagine lead to how entire teardown of his entire block. I helped him build it back up and down and up and down and now feel rather comfortable with the engine portion. I also feel real strongly that you should be able to at least maintain their own equipment. I take it a bit more excessive and tend to be and extreme DIYer. Just thought this would be an appropriate outlet for recording my work. cheers Shavelieva, |
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June 13th, 2010, 01:32 AM | #2 |
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You're crazy mate, but I respect that! I wish you all the best. So what else 08-10 parts are you going to be using?
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June 13th, 2010, 02:27 AM | #3 | |
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So far 08'-010' parts already installed -09 gas tank -which includes a fuel gage(88-07 don't have one) -09 tail light -radiator over fill bottle things I have but need to modify for fit -Stock $1 eBay Exhaust pipes -Wiring Harness, I currently have a 2004 harness installed and want to wire the 09 harness on 08-10 generation parts that I am looking forward to purchasing in the near future -new gauges(digital maybe) -currently looking into the bolt patterns of the 2008 Front Sprocket cover to see if it would fit transparently while still allowing for the shifter to sit correctly, not sure. -seat -radiator, fan, thermostat -some fairings, I would like to cast the main ones myself however -mirrors -Swing Arm(looks better in black) -chain tensioner -Rear Shock Linkage -Turn Signals(flush) -LEDS -Front Tire Parts I'm purchasing on eBay right now(trying to get the best deal on shipping) -08' Rear Brake Master Cylinder -09' Front Right Brake Caliper -09' Rear Brake Caliper -09' muffler -09' Clutch Lever -08' Front Brake Line -01' Rear Brake Line -08' Brake Light Switch -NEW battery -front and rear brake brackets List of 88-07 parts I purchased and installed currently -frame -wheels -1x rear tire -chain -engine, top end disassembled and cleaned, going to need gaskets -radiator -hoses -thermostat -cdi -coils/plugs -rebuilt carbs -airbox -fan -forks/keys -clutch cable -Carb Boots -old moto batteries -old filter So you can tell it still look scrawny since it has no panels yet. Got the whole street fighter thing going on, hopefully not for too much longer though, cheers, |
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June 13th, 2010, 02:42 AM | #4 |
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June 13th, 2010, 02:56 AM | #5 |
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Name: Michael
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atm, I'm at work. My phone's dead. and i'm not proud enough to put a lot of pics up on fb of it. except this old one where its in the basement.
really not much has changed. EDIT: btw the small wheel in the background belongs to the spree(its not a part of the ninja). |
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June 13th, 2010, 03:02 AM | #6 |
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Looks like a interesting project. If you can change the wheels to 17inch and the front fork that would be nice .It would make the brake part easy.
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June 13th, 2010, 03:09 AM | #7 |
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alright, after a quick ten second thought I am realizing that picture is around 3months old and I haven't really done anything so I just impulsed an eBay buy.
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June 13th, 2010, 03:36 AM | #8 | |
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I'm definitely looking into newer new forks, or at least seals. If I do keep them I ill lower it by an inch and a half. As far as rims and wheels, I may put those off to very last to avoid attempting to ride it unnecessarily. |
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June 13th, 2010, 09:51 AM | #9 |
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Great project! Keep up the pictures.
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June 13th, 2010, 11:07 AM | #10 |
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i noticed your building your bike in the basement. um, when my father was a teenager he built a chevy motor in his parents basement piece by piece. this doesn't become a problem until you realize you need to move the finished project up stairs and through a narrow doorway... fwiw
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June 13th, 2010, 08:33 PM | #11 |
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Koso gauges mate, go for it!
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June 13th, 2010, 08:52 PM | #12 | |
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June 13th, 2010, 09:00 PM | #13 |
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btw, thanks for the comments and support,
http://www.kosonorthamerica.com/ thats a pretty awesome gauge, I was planning on modifying mine out. I'm really torn on whether to keep it analog or go all digital, but I like the balance in those. Just going to keep me thinking, thanks guys. |
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June 17th, 2010, 12:41 AM | #14 |
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Got all of those parts I ordered from eBay this evening. Everything seems like it ought to fit ok. Going to install everything after work tonight.
I'll post up some pics after I get everything on |
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June 19th, 2010, 07:32 PM | #15 |
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Name: Michael
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I've not been home much. I got the parts in
I've removed the rear tire & sway bar while on the kickstand here's the new sway bar Decided to string the back end up so that I could bring the kick stand out of the way. I don't exactly remember why I have the stator cover removed.... I need to re-wrap my wiring harness(I got curious) |
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June 19th, 2010, 08:04 PM | #16 |
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this is a real F**King cool project dude, thanks for the updates with the pictures, please keep 'em commin'
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June 19th, 2010, 08:56 PM | #17 |
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Thanks, hopefully I'll be able to ride it soon enough.
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June 21st, 2010, 04:43 PM | #18 |
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UPDATES:
The 2008-10 Axle bolt is longer than the 88-07. The sway bar on the 08-10 is rectangular tubed through and through. the 88-01 is recessed and doesn't require as long of an axle, the difference is at most 2" but enough that the axle threads don't even pop out the other side. The Sway member otherwise bolts up well as does the linkage to the spring. I'm really interested in swapping the spring with something a bit stiffer from recommendations I've sen online. the 08-10 is suppose to be good and I've seen suzuki swaps, so its something I'm definitely looking into. The front brake caliper doesn't seem to line up correctly to one of the bolts by maybe a quarter of an inch. one bolt fits well, the other is gapped too far. Additionally the brake line doesn't appear to be long enough. The remedy? I'm going to buy new forks. I don't particularly need new ones entirely but my seals are crap anyways. |
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February 11th, 2011, 01:04 AM | #19 |
slightly mechanical
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any more progress?
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February 11th, 2011, 01:58 AM | #20 |
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February 11th, 2011, 07:35 AM | #21 |
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Call me crazy but, throw some 17 tires on it and keep the streefighter look it has right now. I'm diggin' that.
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February 16th, 2011, 07:52 AM | #22 |
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Did the 08+ swingarm bolt into the 88-07 frame without modification?
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February 16th, 2011, 09:56 AM | #23 |
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I just started working on my first gen race bike. You can't just swap the wheels from 16 to 17 . It will be easyer to change the fork and swing arm. The spacers need to be re cut and the brake caliper needs to be moved. Not impossible just a lot of work. I ended up sticking with the 16 and getting Sport Demons.
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February 16th, 2011, 11:14 AM | #24 | |
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So say you wanted to use 88' frame, 08 swing arm and keep your classic 88 rims? You would additionally need a matching 08+ brake caliper unless you feel comfortable welding and bracketing a small arm for the old brake caliper to the newer swing arm. Also the Axle bolt is a longer length so you'd need one of those too. Option1: Grind the outer rim of your current brake rotor grind down so that it fits with the placement of the newer caliper. This option suck because you may loose surface area which in turn may increase your rear brake stopping power. Option2: Find a 4 bolt disk brake of matching width and outer diameter. Options3: Get a 08+ rear wheel/tire/rotor to match your 08+ caliper and swing arm. Option4: Mount the caliper farther from the axle so it fits your rotor. The mount that fits on the axle holding the caliper is thick all around so it may not be home grown job to extend it. I'd say it could be cut in half and a wedge could welded in place or a slotted bracket could be made to screw the bracket back together. I'd recommend a quality welding job. Dealing with your brakes keep in mind that this is what stops you so take the time do a quality job. |
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February 16th, 2011, 07:27 PM | #25 |
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What happened to all your pics?
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February 16th, 2011, 09:04 PM | #26 |
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I'm out of work and so i've stopped paying for my site hosting at http://shavelieva.com
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February 16th, 2011, 09:09 PM | #27 |
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google hosts pics for free.
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February 20th, 2011, 08:35 AM | #28 |
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March 4th, 2011, 03:02 AM | #29 |
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March 6th, 2011, 11:33 PM | #30 |
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March 8th, 2011, 11:38 AM | #31 |
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October 31st, 2012, 09:49 PM | #32 |
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If you've still got the pictures, can you post them up? The forum should let you attach them to posts (no need for a host). I think you're still the only person to ever swap tanks.
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November 7th, 2012, 11:16 AM | #34 |
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November 7th, 2012, 11:19 AM | #35 |
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November 20th, 2012, 05:02 PM | #36 |
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Here are some of the old photos for reference considering where I started with it. I originally purchased a frame, front wheel, rear wheel w/ tire and motor(barely). nothing else.
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November 20th, 2012, 06:27 PM | #37 |
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