wheelie!

bhalv · August 28th, 2011, 04:24 PM

driving around this morning I was sitting at a light and thought to my self ; self, I wonder how fast you can launch a 250 from a complete stop. So i was sitting there holding it around 5k in 1st, light turned green and I dropped the clutch. Definitely wasn't expecting what happened next, front end popped about 2 feet in the air and shot forward, luckily I was able to hang on/ keep control. drove off with mixed emotions of MAN that was COOL!!!/ I didn't know this bike could do that/ HOLY CRAP THAT WAS FREAKY!!!

Live2ride · August 28th, 2011, 04:28 PM

It sure can

. I did something similar when I began riding; I'm pretty sure I had it above 5k rpm though. You must be light.

bhalv · August 28th, 2011, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live2ride

It sure can

. I did something similar when I began riding; I'm pretty sure I had it above 5k rpm though. You must be light.

bout 175. had my weight shifted back at the time

choneofakind · August 28th, 2011, 05:19 PM

lean forward and get your legs up as soon as you can. it'll launch nicely

azimmer11 · August 29th, 2011, 06:26 AM

i doubt you wheelied in 5k rpms

bhalv · August 29th, 2011, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azimmer11

i doubt you wheelied in 5k rpms

well thats where it was

azimmer11 · August 29th, 2011, 07:07 AM

do you weigh 15 lbs? and were you going up a very steep incline?

bhalv · August 29th, 2011, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azimmer11

do you weigh 15 lbs? and were you going up a very steep incline?

175 on flat ground, trust me I was just as surprised as you are

azimmer11 · August 29th, 2011, 07:22 AM

175 and you got it up at 5k rpms?...i honestly think you misread the tach.

ninja250 · August 29th, 2011, 07:35 AM

It will wheelie at 5K. Not to balance point, but it will wheelie at 5K.
The secret is to dump the clutch as fast as you possibly can.
Don't say you learned it from me..
It does standing wheelies much easier.
Change the gears around and it will accelerate like a GSXR and have tons of power for stunting like you wouldn't believe.

bhalv · August 29th, 2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja250

It will wheelie at 5K. Not to balance point, but it will wheelie at 5K.
The secret is to dump the clutch as fast as you possibly can.
Don't say you learned it from me..
It does standing wheelies much easier.
Change the gears around and it will accelerate like a GSXR and have tons of power for stunting like you wouldn't believe.

and what gear ratio would that be, you know hypothetically speaking

Felipe the Ant · August 29th, 2011, 08:04 PM

I just popped my first real one today, one where I had to look around the side to see where I was going. I was just shy of the balance point and came down when I hit redline.

Felt good

blink · August 29th, 2011, 08:18 PM

i couldnt lift it at 6 and i weigh 132lbs

ninja250 · August 30th, 2011, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blink

i couldnt lift it at 6 and i weigh 132lbs

Lean back. Drop clutch faster. The wheel should come up a tiny bit at least at that RPM.
You can also use a technique called "Bouncing it". (preload the forks before you clutch up to help)
Start from rolling along at 4mph.. and be careful. If you can't do it, might not be time yet to try.
This guy can lift a scooter with no power and he's more than 132lbs.
Surely you can find a way to work it on your ninjette. don't forget to cover the rear brake.

Link to original page on YouTube.

(anyone notice the airplane int he video?!)

ninja250 · August 30th, 2011, 04:34 AM

The problem is,
If you are looking at your RPM gauge to do a wheelie, you are doing it wrong.
You need lots more practice to where you can simply feel what RPM will create a good wheelie for you when you dump the clutch.

You have to want it, know how to do it, and commit. Much like many other aspects of riding a bike. Be careful, if you aren't on a closed course with all your gear (or even if you are) you can get really hurt and mess everything up for years to come for yourself!

Don't bother looking around at the gauges and the bike. You have to feel it. It should become second nature with enough practice. Lean back, cover brake, clutch in while rolling, rev and wait a second and then dump and try to balance out. You have to think about 4-6 different things at once while riding a proper wheelie... but not really be thinking of them at all. It has to become second nature.

Lots and lots of practice. Don't rush it.
Practice wheelie escape routines first. Learn to jump off your bike safely and also how to practice wheelies while using your rear brake to bring you down so you don't "loop it". If you can't get off the bike safely while doing a wheelie, it's probably too fast to be doing a wheelie and should only be on the track. I'd suggest properly gearing your stuntbikes for safety and ease on the engine and many other reasons.

wheelies to 30mph and faster on the street will get you killed or in trouble.
Once you learn it on the street you'll be doing it all over and you'll eventually T-bone somebody you didn't see pulling out in front of you and die. "Drink" responsibly.

tsiratiug · August 30th, 2011, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azimmer11

i doubt you wheelied in 5k rpms

Indicated, not actual.

ninja250 · August 30th, 2011, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiratiug

Indicated, not actual.

Lol Ninjette ownage

blink · September 2nd, 2011, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja250

Lean back. Drop clutch faster. The wheel should come up a tiny bit at least at that RPM.
You can also use a technique called "Bouncing it". (preload the forks before you clutch up to help)
Start from rolling along at 4mph.. and be careful. If you can't do it, might not be time yet to try.
This guy can lift a scooter with no power and he's more than 132lbs.
Surely you can find a way to work it on your ninjette. don't forget to cover the rear brake.

Link to original page on YouTube.

(anyone notice the airplane int he video?!)

Yeah but thats valentino ahha.
Thanks for the tips. I'll try wheelies when I get a naked damage bike =p

miss_syn · September 3rd, 2011, 06:11 AM

I accidentally wheelied the one day at a light. I had about the same feelings. >.<

austinm911 · September 3rd, 2011, 06:55 PM

You mean by covering the brake, you use the rear brake to reduce the height of the wheelie and bring you back to the ground?

Reddoak · September 3rd, 2011, 07:18 PM

All the above, and I'll add the following: When you pop the front wheel in the air the first few times, it feels 150% higher than it actually is...

I'm heavy, and had a larger front and smaller rear sprockets... It wouldn't come up at 5k for me, that's for sure! But stock, leaning way back? Maybe.

Clearlynotstefan · September 3rd, 2011, 10:03 PM

Lol, 5k is practically idling -_-

rz3r0 · September 5th, 2011, 10:23 PM

So I was reading this thread... and when I was riding today, 5000rpm and drop clutch on first came across my mind on a clear road. I tried this on a red light with no traffic and sure enough, front lifted up and I shot forward. That was awesome and I was able to control my ninjette pretty well. But I don't think I will be doing that regularly. It was awesome though.

BTW I weigh about 140lb. and 5000rpm did do the trick from a standstill.

Clearlynotstefan · September 5th, 2011, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rz3r0

So I was reading this thread... and when I was riding today, 5000rpm and drop clutch on first came across my mind on a clear road. I tried this on a red light with no traffic and sure enough, front lifted up and I shot forward. That was awesome and I was able to control my ninjette pretty well. But I don't think I will be doing that regularly. It was awesome though.

BTW I weigh about 140lb. and 5000rpm did do the trick from a standstill.

Not that I condone wheelies, but you shouldn't do them from a dead stop.

ninja250 · September 6th, 2011, 07:59 AM

Correct...

You want the bike to be moving along at 5mph or a little more before you wheelie. This helps to stay straight on the bike from the centrifugal force of the wheels.

Stand up wheelie requires lower RPM but is scarier and a bit harder to do/learn.

Havok · September 6th, 2011, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azimmer11

i doubt you wheelied in 5k rpms

I am 235lbs and can do one from a stand still at a 5k clutch dump, can do a rollling one if I cruise at 3k and dump the clutch between 8k and 10 (10k is close to balance point) so yea it's easy to do, stop talking out of your ass.

August 28th, 2011, 04:24 PM	#1
bhalv ninjette.org member Name: brent Location: NOVA/ LYNCHBURG Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 93 ninja 250 Posts: 111	wheelie! driving around this morning I was sitting at a light and thought to my self ; self, I wonder how fast you can launch a 250 from a complete stop. So i was sitting there holding it around 5k in 1st, light turned green and I dropped the clutch. Definitely wasn't expecting what happened next, front end popped about 2 feet in the air and shot forward, luckily I was able to hang on/ keep control. drove off with mixed emotions of MAN that was COOL!!!/ I didn't know this bike could do that/ HOLY CRAP THAT WAS FREAKY!!!

August 28th, 2011, 04:28 PM	#2
Live2ride ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cody Location: NoVa Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 yzf r6r previously: 09 ninja 250r, black 07 zx6r Posts: A lot.	It sure can . I did something similar when I began riding; I'm pretty sure I had it above 5k rpm though. You must be light. __________________________________________________

August 29th, 2011, 07:35 AM	#10
ninja250 You are sleeping Name: Casey Location: LMFAO!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 Posts: A lot.	It will wheelie at 5K. Not to balance point, but it will wheelie at 5K. The secret is to dump the clutch as fast as you possibly can. Don't say you learned it from me.. It does standing wheelies much easier. Change the gears around and it will accelerate like a GSXR and have tons of power for stunting like you wouldn't believe. __________________________________________________ <Yeah, it's a 250. LMFAO! Weaksauce

August 29th, 2011, 08:18 PM	#13
blink Always. Name: Alex Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '05 GSX-R600 Posts: A lot.	i couldnt lift it at 6 and i weigh 132lbs __________________________________________________ blink-182

August 30th, 2011, 04:34 AM	#15
ninja250 You are sleeping Name: Casey Location: LMFAO!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 Posts: A lot.	The problem is, If you are looking at your RPM gauge to do a wheelie, you are doing it wrong. You need lots more practice to where you can simply feel what RPM will create a good wheelie for you when you dump the clutch. You have to want it, know how to do it, and commit. Much like many other aspects of riding a bike. Be careful, if you aren't on a closed course with all your gear (or even if you are) you can get really hurt and mess everything up for years to come for yourself! Don't bother looking around at the gauges and the bike. You have to feel it. It should become second nature with enough practice. Lean back, cover brake, clutch in while rolling, rev and wait a second and then dump and try to balance out. You have to think about 4-6 different things at once while riding a proper wheelie... but not really be thinking of them at all. It has to become second nature. Lots and lots of practice. Don't rush it. Practice wheelie escape routines first. Learn to jump off your bike safely and also how to practice wheelies while using your rear brake to bring you down so you don't "loop it". If you can't get off the bike safely while doing a wheelie, it's probably too fast to be doing a wheelie and should only be on the track. I'd suggest properly gearing your stuntbikes for safety and ease on the engine and many other reasons. wheelies to 30mph and faster on the street will get you killed or in trouble. Once you learn it on the street you'll be doing it all over and you'll eventually T-bone somebody you didn't see pulling out in front of you and die. "Drink" responsibly. __________________________________________________ <Yeah, it's a 250. LMFAO! Weaksauce

August 28th, 2011, 05:19 PM	#4
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	lean forward and get your legs up as soon as you can. it'll launch nicely

August 29th, 2011, 06:26 AM	#5
azimmer11 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: michigan Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 784	i doubt you wheelied in 5k rpms

August 29th, 2011, 07:07 AM	#7
azimmer11 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: michigan Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 784	do you weigh 15 lbs? and were you going up a very steep incline?

August 29th, 2011, 07:22 AM	#9
azimmer11 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: michigan Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 784	175 and you got it up at 5k rpms?...i honestly think you misread the tach.

August 29th, 2011, 08:04 PM	#12
Felipe the Ant ninjette.org sage Name: . Location: . Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R SE GREEN! Posts: 562	I just popped my first real one today, one where I had to look around the side to see where I was going. I was just shy of the balance point and came down when I hit redline. Felt good

September 3rd, 2011, 06:11 AM	#19
miss_syn my hair matches my bike Name: Tiffany Location: Greater Pittsburgh Metropolitan Area Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Red 250r Posts: 411	I accidentally wheelied the one day at a light. I had about the same feelings. >.<

September 3rd, 2011, 06:55 PM	#20
austinm911 ninjette.org member Name: Austin Location: San Diego Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 72	You mean by covering the brake, you use the rear brake to reduce the height of the wheelie and bring you back to the ground?

September 3rd, 2011, 07:18 PM	#21
Reddoak ninjette.org guru Name: Bill Location: Orlando Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r - Traded for 2009 ER-6N Posts: 424	All the above, and I'll add the following: When you pop the front wheel in the air the first few times, it feels 150% higher than it actually is... I'm heavy, and had a larger front and smaller rear sprockets... It wouldn't come up at 5k for me, that's for sure! But stock, leaning way back? Maybe. __________________________________________________

September 3rd, 2011, 10:03 PM	#22
Clearlynotstefan ninjette.org member Name: Stefan Location: Riverhead, Long Island, New York Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Ninja 250, Totally black. Gsxr 600 Red. Posts: 179	Lol, 5k is practically idling -_-

September 5th, 2011, 10:23 PM	#23
rz3r0 ninjette.org member Name: Rick Location: Hawaii Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R(Sold), 11 Honda Ruckus, 12 Ducati Monster 696 ABS Posts: 145	So I was reading this thread... and when I was riding today, 5000rpm and drop clutch on first came across my mind on a clear road. I tried this on a red light with no traffic and sure enough, front lifted up and I shot forward. That was awesome and I was able to control my ninjette pretty well. But I don't think I will be doing that regularly. It was awesome though. BTW I weigh about 140lb. and 5000rpm did do the trick from a standstill.

September 6th, 2011, 07:59 AM	#25
ninja250 You are sleeping Name: Casey Location: LMFAO!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 Posts: A lot.	Correct... You want the bike to be moving along at 5mph or a little more before you wheelie. This helps to stay straight on the bike from the centrifugal force of the wheels. Stand up wheelie requires lower RPM but is scarier and a bit harder to do/learn. __________________________________________________ <Yeah, it's a 250. LMFAO! Weaksauce

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