HID projectors/halos for cheap?

massacremasses · January 28th, 2012, 11:22 PM

Who would be interested? I wanted to gauge interest. Not selling yet, nor am I sure if we will be (I keep saying we but its mostly my buddy)

Basically we had an idea for a lower priced retro fit. I cant give much details yet (its not really a secret we just dont know if itll work) since we want to do it and test it first. But if we were able to offer full retro fits with Halos (a decent amount of colors) all for around $350ish and demon eyes for around $400ish would anyone be interested?

I know itll be around $300-400. Im sure if it is successful he would do a group buy. like 5 people $300 or something like that?

idk just gauging interest. Let me know what you guys think.

Note* not selling anything yet please dont move to marketplace.

Gorilla25 · January 29th, 2012, 12:06 AM

this does seem tempting...though im not too sure if i want to go that route

massacremasses · January 29th, 2012, 12:16 AM

what route? the HID Projector route?

jp129 · January 29th, 2012, 12:11 PM

Depends on how big the projectors are and what the fit would be like inside the housing. I would be interested though.

Gorilla25 · January 29th, 2012, 12:48 PM

yes, HID or HID projector route..i just upgraded my stock bulbs for Philips Motovisions and i love them. Im still toying around the idea of having HIDs though...

massacremasses · January 29th, 2012, 01:29 PM

HID Projectors especially with halos are the sickest imo

I will keep you all posted. do to lack of interest it may just be for me. I was hoping to see some serious interest.

choneofakind · January 29th, 2012, 01:33 PM

Get me a newgen and I'll be plenty interested

jack_bm · January 29th, 2012, 01:34 PM

I'd be interested if i had the money, but at the moment and i can see in the future me not having that much money to spend on it at once, maybe if i was to save up for a while i would though, hope it works out though

massacremasses · January 29th, 2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Get me a newgen and I'll be plenty interested

we may try something on a pregen as thats what he actually has. A green one too. But its got a blown motor right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack_bm

I'd be interested if i had the money, but at the moment and i can see in the future me not having that much money to spend on it at once, maybe if i was to save up for a while i would though, hope it works out though

damn shipping to england may be a little bit.. haha

jack_bm · January 29th, 2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

damn shipping to england may be a little bit.. haha

aha oh yeah, i keep forgetting how F****** annoying it is to live so far away with everything costing a stupid amount to get shipped here

oh well i still think that you should give it ago would be interesting to see

choneofakind · January 29th, 2012, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

we may try something on a pregen as thats what he actually has. A green one too.

as always, pictures when you get something together

Only reason I didn't do projectors and HID's this winter is because the lens isn't just clear. There's texture on the inside that I decided would scatter light and defeat the purpose of a projector

Gorilla25 · January 29th, 2012, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack_bm

aha oh yeah, i keep forgetting how F****** annoying it is to live so far away with everything costing a stupid amount to get shipped here

oh well i still think that you should give it ago would be interesting to see

Shipping to hawaii sucks too

massacremasses · January 29th, 2012, 05:24 PM

ha it would because you have to ship your head light here then we ship it back. Still I have good shipping rates with UPS so I could work something out with my buddy im sure

Mr.E · January 29th, 2012, 07:15 PM

My only delima with things like this, is the fact that I'd have to ship my headlight (My bike is mostly my main transportation through the week). Other wise I'd be down. You guys should (if you wanted) try to make a kit of some sort. Kinda plug and play, maybe we'd only have to take out the housing, replace it, then set up thew wires while verything else is already put together? idk. then again i guess that would defeat the purpose. *sigh* lol. how long estimated wait would it be to get it to and from would you think?

00NissanNinja · January 29th, 2012, 07:53 PM

I'd be interested, but unsure if I want to but more money into my bike. I also had made plans to cut base plates for projectors out of acrylic on a laser cutter if I did plan on doing a retro for that nice professional finish. But who knows maybe I'll feel more giving when I get a job

jp129 · January 29th, 2012, 08:46 PM

Just to clarify, this would include everything that's need for the retrofit?

massacremasses · January 29th, 2012, 10:10 PM

He would be doing the retrofit, it wouldnt be a kit.

also if needed we may have an extra housing. you ship us one and we have the one done for you and ship it as soon as we receive yours or something..

Not sure on the estimated wait time, still on experimental stages.

jp129 · January 29th, 2012, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

He would be doing the retrofit, it wouldnt be a kit.

also if needed we may have an extra housing. you ship us one and we have the one done for you and ship it as soon as we receive yours or something..

Not sure on the estimated wait time, still on experimental stages.

Interesting, that would be even better. Hope this may work out...

massacremasses · January 29th, 2012, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp129

Interesting, that would be even better. Hope this may work out...

me too because it would only be a $100 or so more than buying the current retrofit kits available.

we will see.

Flying Pig · January 30th, 2012, 02:19 AM

Which kind of projectors are you thinking of using?

Aesthetically, I think projectors look better on bikes with separated headlights, but if you dont' cheap out and use a high-quality projector, I'm sure it'd be a lighting upgrade

For what it's worth, I went with a cheap generic projector when doing my retrofit. If I had to do it over again, I'd be spending the extra $100 to get a better projector

massacremasses · January 30th, 2012, 07:56 AM

projectors will be out of a car we are always around... lol

I just picked some up, and they seem like they may be to long :/ not sure. Gotta wait for my buddy to get back. Also we need a donor headlight. Im trying to buy one so if anyone wants to sell me one cheap for the sake of research LMK!!

choneofakind · January 30th, 2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

projectors will be out of a car we are always around... lol

oh is this like 20 questions??

My guess is a Camry

massacremasses · January 30th, 2012, 01:49 PM

NOPE GUESS AGAIN.

Only one person on this forum will know

lol

its not a secret its just funny to be mysterious. But again waiting to see if it works.

choneofakind · January 30th, 2012, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

Only one person on this forum will know

lol

soon to be 2 since I'm gonna get this right.

Foreign or domestic?

THE BIG SITT · February 1st, 2012, 08:39 AM

I'm *interested* but you guys should make the kit then post pics of said kit. That's the only way to really gauge interest.

massacremasses · February 1st, 2012, 08:53 AM

it wouldnt be a kit it would be a retro fit. While he could sell a kit it most likely wouldnt be worth it for either party.

right now we are waiting to just get a donor newgen headllight. let me know if you guys find one.

ForceofWill · February 1st, 2012, 03:49 PM

I'm wondering what you guys would be including for your price. I used this kit, which is all quality stuff and it's almost at what you're planning to sell it for.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=237

Are you planning to just sell the projectors that you retrofitted into a housing for them, and the customer will have to worry about his own harness/bulbs/ballasts? Are you planning on including all that stuff for them? If so, unless you cheap out on parts, I don't see you making any money. Considering the amount of time it took me to make mine. Granted the hardest part of doing it was making that mounting plate and making it fit correctly. If you guys got your R&D down for that plate and had a bunch of them pre cut for you, it would cut down on a lot of time.

I think even if you just mocked up a mounting plate for that kit and had some nice ones made somewhere, you could just sell those. If I had an option to buy that plate for another $50 with the holes for projectors/mounting bracket/screws already in it and it fit like it should, I definitely would have bought that.

massacremasses · February 1st, 2012, 03:59 PM

wed be retro fitting our head light assembly to fit projectors from another headlight. Hed buy the set. then retro fit them into our headlight assemblys while adding new bulbs, halos, etc.

He does it with other lights all the time. I have the donor projectors at my house, so again we just need a donor newgen ninja assembly. Im working on finding one..

and again our estimated selling price is 350-$400. so we will see.

ForceofWill · February 1st, 2012, 04:02 PM

So you would or would not be including ballasts for the bulbs and a plug and play harness that will work on our bike for the price?

massacremasses · February 1st, 2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

So you would or would not be including ballasts for the bulbs and a plug and play harness that will work on our bike for the price?

ballasts and bulbs yes.

plug and play harness. yes most likely.

again this in the infancy stages of development, still not sure if it is cost effective yet. However the guy doing it has been doing this stuff for awhile. If anyone can do it he can.

ForceofWill · February 1st, 2012, 04:08 PM

Hey, just trying to iron out details for ya, not shoot you down. More power to you guys. It's definitely a PITA project for most Ninjette owners to undertake. If you guys can offer a good option that's hassle free, I say go for it.

massacremasses · February 1st, 2012, 04:11 PM

for sure, not taking offense in the least. But I did want to gauge interest because I wanted to see if it would even be worth it to take the time and try ya know? If no one is interested then why try?

n250r · February 1st, 2012, 04:32 PM

I'd possibly be interested in this.

Flying Pig · February 8th, 2012, 04:28 PM

So. I definitely can part with my headlight housing for a while since I am primarily riding my v-strom anyways. But if I donate it for your project, I do want it back, preferably with the donor projectors in there

Plus, 2 of the mounting tabs are cracked, not sure you'd really want it permanently anyways. But I believe the lens housing is unscratched so it would still work great for product photos and whatnot.

I've done my own projector install, it's not all that hard. Definitely was a fun project. But I guess my idea of fun isn't shared among others.

massacremasses · February 8th, 2012, 04:30 PM

I wanted an extra one because Im not sure if if will be saveable at the end if we hack it up to much

i dont want to take the only one you have. Id like to pick one up for like $50. :/

mustang5.0 · February 10th, 2012, 07:38 PM

If you can get it to work out.. I'd love to get it done.. Would you be able to do the job over a weekend if i came to NorCal?

massacremasses · February 10th, 2012, 07:54 PM

maybe

its my buddy who is doing it. But I would set you guys up with him and stuff.

January 28th, 2012, 11:22 PM	#1
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	HID projectors/halos for cheap? Who would be interested? I wanted to gauge interest. Not selling yet, nor am I sure if we will be (I keep saying we but its mostly my buddy) Basically we had an idea for a lower priced retro fit. I cant give much details yet (its not really a secret we just dont know if itll work) since we want to do it and test it first. But if we were able to offer full retro fits with Halos (a decent amount of colors) all for around $350ish and demon eyes for around $400ish would anyone be interested? I know itll be around $300-400. Im sure if it is successful he would do a group buy. like 5 people $300 or something like that? idk just gauging interest. Let me know what you guys think. Note* not selling anything yet please dont move to marketplace. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 29th, 2012, 12:16 AM	#3
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	what route? the HID Projector route? __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 29th, 2012, 01:29 PM	#6
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	HID Projectors especially with halos are the sickest imo I will keep you all posted. do to lack of interest it may just be for me. I was hoping to see some serious interest. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 29th, 2012, 05:24 PM	#13
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	ha it would because you have to ship your head light here then we ship it back. Still I have good shipping rates with UPS so I could work something out with my buddy im sure __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 29th, 2012, 07:15 PM	#14
Mr.E That rider dude. Name: Eric Location: Orlando, Fl. Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 White Ninja 250 SE. Posts: A lot.	My only delima with things like this, is the fact that I'd have to ship my headlight (My bike is mostly my main transportation through the week). Other wise I'd be down. You guys should (if you wanted) try to make a kit of some sort. Kinda plug and play, maybe we'd only have to take out the housing, replace it, then set up thew wires while verything else is already put together? idk. then again i guess that would defeat the purpose. sigh lol. how long estimated wait would it be to get it to and from would you think? __________________________________________________ Mods: flushmount Led front binkers, diode mod, pazzo levers, clear tank pad, racing replica grips, bike monkeys integrated tal light, zx-2r vinyls, rearsets, red bar ends, and more red accented stuff.

January 29th, 2012, 12:06 AM	#2
Gorilla25 Dakine... Name: AJ Location: DFW Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R (Sold) \| 636 (hopefully soon) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5	this does seem tempting...though im not too sure if i want to go that route

January 29th, 2012, 12:11 PM	#4
jp129 ninjette.org member Name: Johnny Location: Houston Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 145	Depends on how big the projectors are and what the fit would be like inside the housing. I would be interested though.

January 29th, 2012, 12:48 PM	#5
Gorilla25 Dakine... Name: AJ Location: DFW Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R (Sold) \| 636 (hopefully soon) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5	yes, HID or HID projector route..i just upgraded my stock bulbs for Philips Motovisions and i love them. Im still toying around the idea of having HIDs though...

January 29th, 2012, 01:33 PM	#7
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Get me a newgen and I'll be plenty interested

January 29th, 2012, 01:34 PM	#8
jack_bm Ex ninjette! Name: Jack Location: East sussex England Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSXR 600 K4, Kawasaki ninja 250r 08 Posts: 294	I'd be interested if i had the money, but at the moment and i can see in the future me not having that much money to spend on it at once, maybe if i was to save up for a while i would though, hope it works out though

January 29th, 2012, 07:53 PM	#15
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	I'd be interested, but unsure if I want to but more money into my bike. I also had made plans to cut base plates for projectors out of acrylic on a laser cutter if I did plan on doing a retro for that nice professional finish. But who knows maybe I'll feel more giving when I get a job __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

January 29th, 2012, 08:46 PM	#16
jp129 ninjette.org member Name: Johnny Location: Houston Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 145	Just to clarify, this would include everything that's need for the retrofit?

January 29th, 2012, 10:10 PM	#17
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	He would be doing the retrofit, it wouldnt be a kit. also if needed we may have an extra housing. you ship us one and we have the one done for you and ship it as soon as we receive yours or something.. Not sure on the estimated wait time, still on experimental stages. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 30th, 2012, 02:19 AM	#20
Flying Pig Resident Lurker Name: Solomon Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): R6, Strom, 250R, CH80 Elite Posts: 78	Which kind of projectors are you thinking of using? Aesthetically, I think projectors look better on bikes with separated headlights, but if you dont' cheap out and use a high-quality projector, I'm sure it'd be a lighting upgrade For what it's worth, I went with a cheap generic projector when doing my retrofit. If I had to do it over again, I'd be spending the extra $100 to get a better projector __________________________________________________ When was the last time you checked your tire pressure?

January 30th, 2012, 07:56 AM	#21
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	projectors will be out of a car we are always around... lol I just picked some up, and they seem like they may be to long :/ not sure. Gotta wait for my buddy to get back. Also we need a donor headlight. Im trying to buy one so if anyone wants to sell me one cheap for the sake of research LMK!! __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 30th, 2012, 01:49 PM	#23
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	NOPE GUESS AGAIN. Only one person on this forum will know lol its not a secret its just funny to be mysterious. But again waiting to see if it works. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

February 1st, 2012, 08:39 AM	#25
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	I'm interested but you guys should make the kit then post pics of said kit. That's the only way to really gauge interest.

February 1st, 2012, 08:53 AM	#26
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	it wouldnt be a kit it would be a retro fit. While he could sell a kit it most likely wouldnt be worth it for either party. right now we are waiting to just get a donor newgen headllight. let me know if you guys find one. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

February 1st, 2012, 03:49 PM	#27
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	I'm wondering what you guys would be including for your price. I used this kit, which is all quality stuff and it's almost at what you're planning to sell it for. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=237 Are you planning to just sell the projectors that you retrofitted into a housing for them, and the customer will have to worry about his own harness/bulbs/ballasts? Are you planning on including all that stuff for them? If so, unless you cheap out on parts, I don't see you making any money. Considering the amount of time it took me to make mine. Granted the hardest part of doing it was making that mounting plate and making it fit correctly. If you guys got your R&D down for that plate and had a bunch of them pre cut for you, it would cut down on a lot of time. I think even if you just mocked up a mounting plate for that kit and had some nice ones made somewhere, you could just sell those. If I had an option to buy that plate for another $50 with the holes for projectors/mounting bracket/screws already in it and it fit like it should, I definitely would have bought that.

February 1st, 2012, 03:59 PM	#28
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	wed be retro fitting our head light assembly to fit projectors from another headlight. Hed buy the set. then retro fit them into our headlight assemblys while adding new bulbs, halos, etc. He does it with other lights all the time. I have the donor projectors at my house, so again we just need a donor newgen ninja assembly. Im working on finding one.. and again our estimated selling price is 350-$400. so we will see. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

February 1st, 2012, 04:02 PM	#29
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	So you would or would not be including ballasts for the bulbs and a plug and play harness that will work on our bike for the price?

February 1st, 2012, 04:08 PM	#31
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Hey, just trying to iron out details for ya, not shoot you down. More power to you guys. It's definitely a PITA project for most Ninjette owners to undertake. If you guys can offer a good option that's hassle free, I say go for it.

February 1st, 2012, 04:11 PM	#32
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	for sure, not taking offense in the least. But I did want to gauge interest because I wanted to see if it would even be worth it to take the time and try ya know? If no one is interested then why try? __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

February 1st, 2012, 04:32 PM	#33
n250r ninjette.org member Name: Toby Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Blue Ninja 250r Posts: 37	I'd possibly be interested in this.

February 8th, 2012, 04:28 PM	#34
Flying Pig Resident Lurker Name: Solomon Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): R6, Strom, 250R, CH80 Elite Posts: 78	So. I definitely can part with my headlight housing for a while since I am primarily riding my v-strom anyways. But if I donate it for your project, I do want it back, preferably with the donor projectors in there Plus, 2 of the mounting tabs are cracked, not sure you'd really want it permanently anyways. But I believe the lens housing is unscratched so it would still work great for product photos and whatnot. I've done my own projector install, it's not all that hard. Definitely was a fun project. But I guess my idea of fun isn't shared among others. __________________________________________________ When was the last time you checked your tire pressure?

February 8th, 2012, 04:30 PM	#35
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	I wanted an extra one because Im not sure if if will be saveable at the end if we hack it up to much i dont want to take the only one you have. Id like to pick one up for like $50. :/ __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

February 10th, 2012, 07:38 PM	#36
mustang5.0 ninjette.org guru Name: E Location: 818 but i rep 516/631/718 Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 GIXXER 600 Posts: 381	If you can get it to work out.. I'd love to get it done.. Would you be able to do the job over a weekend if i came to NorCal? __________________________________________________ "You see it's not the blood you spill that gets you what you want. It's the blood you share, your family, your friendships, your community. These are the most valuable things a man could have."

February 10th, 2012, 07:54 PM	#37
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	maybe its my buddy who is doing it. But I would set you guys up with him and stuff. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

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