2007 Ninja 250 question - Page 2

drdriftking007 · April 16th, 2012, 07:38 AM

Another question...lol

So now when i try to start my bike but pushing the ignition button it wont turn on. I have to give it a slight throttle in order for it to turn on. Is that an issue? and choke is fully on.

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 07:40 AM

Try using 1/2-3/4 choke instead of full choke. The other thing you can do is press the starter, and roll the choke up to about 2/3 as it's cranking.

Throttle adds air. That means you're making it excessively rich with full choke. Less choke should help it start right up.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_is..._at_startup%3F

EDIT for clarity: Choke is only needed when the bike is cold. If it's hot outside, or the engine is still a little bit warm from a ride within the last hour or so, it should be able to start right up without any use of the choke.

drdriftking007 · April 16th, 2012, 07:50 AM

you sir, are a genious!

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 08:09 AM

nope. I just read a lot online. But thanks

Jono · April 16th, 2012, 08:12 AM

If it is warm outside you really don't need to use the choke to start the bike. At least you shouldn't have to. My bike starts right up without any choke if it is above 60 degrees. Maybe a little cooler actually.

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jono

My bike starts right up without any choke if it is above 60 degrees.

Same, but if the engine is completely cool, while the choke isn't necessary to start the bike, it starts and idles easier with the choke. Nothing wrong with using choke in the way it was intended.

Jono · April 16th, 2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Same, but if the engine is completely cool, while the choke isn't necessary to start the bike, it starts and idles easier with the choke. Nothing wrong with using choke in the way it was intended.

Motofool · April 16th, 2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdriftking007

you sir, are a genious!

...he is

drdriftking007 · April 18th, 2012, 07:01 AM

Alright everyone just an update with my bike...its like one thing after another.

So first off how everything started was when I had a leak in my gas tank but I fixed with some JB Weld.

Then when I wasnt home i left my bike uncovered and i called my cousin to move it under the porch ( I was not at home) I come to find out he dropped my bike -____-

So after that day I took it for a ride everything was normal until like 20 min after my bike starts slowing down and it wont start up it just struggles. I felt some heat around my legs but still didnt get whats going on.

Now this morning i opened the gas cap to start up my bike and everything was fine...until i noticed some smoke coming from the right part of my bike.

see below for pics

I don't know if you are able to see the areas i boxed around on...but thats where light smoke started coming out from.

If you noticed on the first picture there is a crack....so am I screwed is that fixable? Is that why my bike turns off?

choneofakind · April 18th, 2012, 07:06 AM

Did you open the gas cap and try riding around with it open right after it died?

I don't know about the smoke, but in regards to the sight glass, you can fix that. The glass being cracked shouldn't be having any effect on the bike dying.

drdriftking007 · April 18th, 2012, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Did you open the gas cap and try riding around with it open right after it died?

I don't know about the smoke, but in regards to the sight glass, you can fix that. The glass being cracked shouldn't be having any effect on the bike dying.

This morning i opened the gas tank this morning but I did not ride it since i was late to work and I just took my car. I didn't ride it since i saw smoke coming out. So...dumb question that glass what is that for? from the looks of it i thought it was oil probably slipping out a bit?

What can you tell me?

choneofakind · April 18th, 2012, 07:30 AM

Next time the bike dies, open the gas cap right away, start it up and ride around to see if it dies.

The sight glass is your way of seeing the oil level in your engine since there's no dipstick.

drdriftking007 · April 18th, 2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Next time the bike dies, open the gas cap right away, start it up and ride around to see if it dies.

The sight glass is your way of seeing the oil level in your engine since there's no dipstick.

Alright I will have to do that then!

i will give you an update

TheFranchise216 · April 18th, 2012, 09:47 AM

Not that I know a lot but I'd say it fixable. Like Chris said, the oil sight glass can be fixed. I would guess that the smoke was caused by dripping oil. Let us know what's up when you get to test it out again.

Question for the pros: if the oil sight is broken, will it continue to drip from there by trying to fill itself up?

Trash Can Man · April 18th, 2012, 10:39 AM

If the sight glass is cracked, it may (or not) leak oil until you fix it. You should fix it.

TheFranchise216 · April 18th, 2012, 01:55 PM

I agree it should be fixed ASAP. From the pics it looked like oil was leaking. Is it a constant leak? Even a slow one? That would lead me to say the bike wanting oil. Don't forget to check your temp gauge (if it's pre-gen). You don't want to kill your engine from lack of oil if that's the case.

drdriftking007 · April 19th, 2012, 02:53 PM

JUST AN UPDATE

I bought the sight glass today during my lunch break and also some oil to change for my bike. Hope to change it tonight or tomorrow morning.

Hopefully i fix everything and my bike runs well.

drdriftking007 · April 20th, 2012, 01:11 PM

Chaged the sight glass this morning and the oil everything was riding just fine this morning!!

TheFranchise216 · April 20th, 2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdriftking007

Chaged the sight glass this morning and the oil everything was riding just fine this morning!!

Awesome!! I bet it was just running low then and needed a quick fixing up and refill. Just keep an eye on it for a bit to be safe.

April 16th, 2012, 07:40 AM	#42
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Try using 1/2-3/4 choke instead of full choke. The other thing you can do is press the starter, and roll the choke up to about 2/3 as it's cranking. Throttle adds air. That means you're making it excessively rich with full choke. Less choke should help it start right up. http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_is..._at_startup%3F EDIT for clarity: Choke is only needed when the bike is cold. If it's hot outside, or the engine is still a little bit warm from a ride within the last hour or so, it should be able to start right up without any use of the choke. Last futzed with by choneofakind; April 16th, 2012 at 01:55 PM.

April 18th, 2012, 10:39 AM	#55
Trash Can Man ninjette.org member Name: John Location: KCMetro Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, 87 & 99 Concours, Buell 1125CR Posts: 34	If the sight glass is cracked, it may (or not) leak oil until you fix it. You should fix it. __________________________________________________ Bumpty,bumpty, bump

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drdriftking007 Drdriftking007 Name: Eddie Location: Houston Texas Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 67	Alright everyone just an update with my bike...its like one thing after another. So first off how everything started was when I had a leak in my gas tank but I fixed with some JB Weld. Then when I wasnt home i left my bike uncovered and i called my cousin to move it under the porch ( I was not at home) I come to find out he dropped my bike -____- So after that day I took it for a ride everything was normal until like 20 min after my bike starts slowing down and it wont start up it just struggles. I felt some heat around my legs but still didnt get whats going on. Now this morning i opened the gas cap to start up my bike and everything was fine...until i noticed some smoke coming from the right part of my bike. see below for pics I don't know if you are able to see the areas i boxed around on...but thats where light smoke started coming out from. If you noticed on the first picture there is a crack....so am I screwed is that fixable? Is that why my bike turns off?

April 18th, 2012, 07:06 AM	#50
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Did you open the gas cap and try riding around with it open right after it died? I don't know about the smoke, but in regards to the sight glass, you can fix that. The glass being cracked shouldn't be having any effect on the bike dying.

April 18th, 2012, 07:30 AM	#52
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Next time the bike dies, open the gas cap right away, start it up and ride around to see if it dies. The sight glass is your way of seeing the oil level in your engine since there's no dipstick.

April 18th, 2012, 09:47 AM	#54
TheFranchise216 ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: Central Florida Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 38	Not that I know a lot but I'd say it fixable. Like Chris said, the oil sight glass can be fixed. I would guess that the smoke was caused by dripping oil. Let us know what's up when you get to test it out again. Question for the pros: if the oil sight is broken, will it continue to drip from there by trying to fill itself up?

April 18th, 2012, 01:55 PM	#56
TheFranchise216 ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: Central Florida Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 38	I agree it should be fixed ASAP. From the pics it looked like oil was leaking. Is it a constant leak? Even a slow one? That would lead me to say the bike wanting oil. Don't forget to check your temp gauge (if it's pre-gen). You don't want to kill your engine from lack of oil if that's the case.

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drdriftking007 Drdriftking007 Name: Eddie Location: Houston Texas Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 67	JUST AN UPDATE I bought the sight glass today during my lunch break and also some oil to change for my bike. Hope to change it tonight or tomorrow morning. Hopefully i fix everything and my bike runs well.

April 20th, 2012, 01:11 PM	#58
drdriftking007 Drdriftking007 Name: Eddie Location: Houston Texas Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 67	Chaged the sight glass this morning and the oil everything was riding just fine this morning!!