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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:05 PM   #1
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Turn Signals Only Work 75mph+

Was wondering if anyone knew what could be wrong with my turn signals. They only work when going high speeds! When im at a stop or changing lanes on city streets, they turn on, but dont flash. Only during high speeds on the freeway changing lanes do they flash.

Anyone know what could be wrong?

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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:07 PM   #2
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:14 PM   #3
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:18 PM   #4
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Topped off blinker fluids. Still having issues lol

Dead serious, not sure what to do. Previous owner did put different lights LEDs but nothing I've seen on the forums. Maybe bad connections?
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:21 PM   #5
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you have LED signals on half of your blinkers. when you are revving the engine high, the output voltage on the charging system is around 14v. when running through the lower amperage LEDs combined with the normal lights, thats enough to heat up the blinker element enough to trigger the blink. when you are idling, your engine isnt revving high enough to run the charging system, so the output voltage is lowered, around 12.8 to 13.2. the lowered voltage heats the element in the blinker slower, and the element never heats up quick enough to trigger the blink.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:24 PM   #6
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you have LED signals on half of your blinkers. when you are revving the engine high, the output voltage on the charging system is around 14v. when running through the lower amperage LEDs combined with the normal lights, thats enough to heat up the blinker element enough to trigger the blink. when you are idling, your engine isnt revving high enough to run the charging system, so the output voltage is lowered, around 12.8 to 13.2. the lowered voltage heats the element in the blinker slower, and the element never heats up quick enough to trigger the blink.
This, you need a new blinker relay. I don't remember the number exactly but for some reason 7E or 7A (or maybe 12? lol) speak to me.

Either that or you have a REALLY weak electrical system
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:25 PM   #7
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do you have genuine kawasaki blinker fluid?
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:28 PM   #8
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:40 PM   #9
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Obviously he isn't standing by his ride correctly....

I had a similar problem a while back, but it was at any speed. The blinker switch would work but the lights wouldn't actually flash. Turns out I forgot to reconnect one of my blinkers after I took the fairings off.

Seems like a loose connection or a charging problem to me.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:58 PM   #10
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i dont see the problem, keep the bike at 75mph lol
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 05:07 PM   #11
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Old April 24th, 2012, 05:08 AM   #12
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If you are unsure of the problem... find a backroad or empty stretch of road, turn on your signals, take the bike up to speed. Confirm the signals work and pull in the clutch and roll off the throttle. If the signals stop then you know what the problem is (alex.s located it for you). I don't think it would be a connection issue as the connections are pretty well protected from the wind.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 02:37 PM   #13
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You are going to need a new relay..like they said. I also had LED turn signals put on my bike and the blinking pattern is off. Going from incandescent to LED, the LED's use a fraction of power that the stock ones do and your bike doesnt know what to do with it so it's probably messing up your blinkers. Get a new relay and your problem will be solved.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 03:13 PM   #14
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If you have LED lights you need an LED friendly blinker module. The OEM module is just a little strip that disconnects when it gets hot. Those don't work with LED lights.

Look here for a more detailed explanation and here to buy the part you need.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #15
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Did the lights work properly when you first got the bike? If everything was fine and now they are mysteriously not working, I would suspect a loose ground wire. If they never worked, I would follow everyone else's advice.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 10:46 AM   #16
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thanks everyone. i honestly have no idea how the "new" lights were installed as i am the 2nd owner. going to take the bike apart and figure this out once i have time.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 10:52 AM   #17
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You need a CF12ANL-01 flasher relay...its $16 shipped. I had LED rear turn signals installed and this is what made them work. See the link below. Its the 3rd one down from the top.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...=/flashers.htm


It is completley plug 'n play
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You need a CF12ANL-01 flasher relay...its $16 shipped. I had LED rear turn signals installed and this is what made them work. See the link below. Its the 3rd one down from the top.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...=/flashers.htm


It is completley plug 'n play
im having the same problem, im going to order this relay, but how would i put this in? Any direction would be great Im a noob i know!
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I'm pretty sure you just unbolt the old one and bolt the new one in its place. You have to pull the seat and right side plastic off. Its just one bolt with a phillips head on it. Just be careful not to break the tab on the plastic. The job isn't hard, but you have to be careful if its your first time under the covers.

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I'm pretty sure its the thing marked "FE218BH".
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There are no bolts on the new gen, just take off the seat and turn on the blinkers. The clicking relay is the one you replace, it's on the left side in the back. Takes 2 seconds, I ziptied mine to the frame
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My first though before clicking this thread was "gotta be a short." Now, after reading it, I must ask: Is it possible that it already has an aftermarket flasher relay that requires grounding to work? If so, check the ground.

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There are no bolts on the new gen, just take off the seat and turn on the blinkers. The clicking relay is the one you replace, it's on the left side in the back. Takes 2 seconds, I ziptied mine to the frame
You have to take off the tail and that uses bolts.
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My first though before clicking this thread was "gotta be a short." Now, after reading it, I must ask: Is it possible that it already has an aftermarket flasher relay that requires grounding to work? If so, check the ground.



You have to take off the tail and that uses bolts.
You don't have to. I didn't
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You don't have to. I didn't
I'm not sure how. I mean, it's solidly under the left tail piece and the frame and undertail would prevent easy access without removing the tail piece:



Also, removing the seat requires the removal of bolts, so you're going to have to remove some bolts whether you remove the seat or the left tail section to get to it. Even if you can get to it from the seat, I'm not sure that it would make it any simpler because you have to remove the two side covers to remove the seat just like you have to remove the right tail section to remove the left tail section.

Just to clarify: The relay itself does not bolt on. It has a rubber piece that slips on a metal tab inside left tail piece.
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Yeah I meant it didn't bolt on. 2 Phillips screws and 2 5mm or 6mm hex bolts to get the seat off. Then reach under the tail, there's plenty of room. I couldn't mount my relay in the stock position (bigger and different shape) so it's a little further forward zip tied to the frame

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I'm not sure how. I mean, it's solidly under the left tail piece and the frame and undertail would prevent easy access without removing the tail piece:



Also, removing the seat requires the removal of bolts, so you're going to have to remove some bolts whether you remove the seat or the left tail section to get to it. Even if you can get to it from the seat, I'm not sure that it would make it any simpler because you have to remove the two side covers to remove the seat just like you have to remove the right tail section to remove the left tail section.

Just to clarify: The relay itself does not bolt on. It has a rubber piece that slips on a metal tab inside left tail piece.
that is not oem. that is custom. oem has the relays on top of the battery secured by clips alone. you can get to them by removing the seat which does require 2 philips (oem) and two 5mm allen keys.

edit: now that i think about it, maybe those aren't the flashers on top of the battery
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that is not oem. that is custom. oem has the relays on top of the battery secured by clips alone. you can get to them by removing the seat which does require 2 philips (oem) and two 5mm allen keys.

edit: now that i think about it, maybe those aren't the flashers on top of the battery
The one in the picture is the stock OEM flasher relay location and looks to be the stock OEM flasher relay. There is something else strapped to the frame above it which may be an aftermarket relay, but the circled location is definitely the right location. I don't know if those other things are VRMs or relays or what, but they aren't the relay we're talking about.
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Led relay fixed my blinker problem with stock front and led rear. If you got led in the front and back should get the led relay + diode kit.
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