July 7th, 2012, 11:47 AM | #1 |
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Suzuki SV650...next bike?
Hey guys, I've been looking at making the jump here in the near future to a bigger bike. Originally I was looking at the sportbikes (cbr600rr, gsxr600, etc), I could occasionally find a few good deals, but the insurance is just super mega high (around $150/month+, 1 small accident). But after searching all over the web I found the Suzuki SV650. I got to hear a SV1000 the other day and I fell in love. So this afternoon I plugged my info into Progressive Insurance for a '07 SV650 and I was getting $40/month!!!!
So if I can find a '05 and newer SV650 and any varient I'll be happy. But I wanted to see what you guys think of the SV650? Have any of you ridden these before...pros, cons? I'm probably not going to get one until either late this summer or next year...just so you know. Thanks for the help guys. |
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July 7th, 2012, 11:51 AM | #2 |
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Ive ridden them and they are tons of fun. They are very reliable and parts can be had for VERY VERY cheap. You can even track it and if you get relatively proficient with it you can take corners at the track as fast as you would a 600cc or 1000cc bike. Obviously you will get beat with straightaway speeds....but anyone can go fast on a straightaway.
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July 7th, 2012, 11:53 AM | #3 |
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They look good (partial to the nekkid ones), they sound even better than they look and are cheap. They hold their value fairly well and parts are a dime a dozen. What is not to love? They fall a bit on the straights on track but hold their own in the corners. I have a really hard time passing a gent riding a SV650 at the track. He rides it for all it's worth and loves it. I have rode his a few times and like it very much, although his is ugly as sin as it's been down more times than a Nevada ho.
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July 7th, 2012, 11:54 AM | #4 |
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That's great, but I'm not going to be tracking the bike. It's going to be a everyday commuter and tourer. So how is it on the highway, twisties, etc.?
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July 7th, 2012, 11:55 AM | #5 | |
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July 7th, 2012, 12:08 PM | #6 | |
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Then it becomes a question of if you want to fuel injected or carburated. If you want fuel injected, I would go with 2004-when they stopped making them. The 2003 was the odd-ball year. If you like carbs, then go with 2002 to when when they started making them. |
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July 7th, 2012, 12:54 PM | #7 |
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they are great bikes. tiffani has one, its actually really fun.
it does great rolling burnouts
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July 7th, 2012, 01:31 PM | #8 |
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Cool guys, I really want EFI, which after 2003 is when they were put on the bikes.
Do you guys have any ideas where a good place to look for a used one would be? Craigslist is a little sketchy and Cycletrader can be a little limited. |
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July 7th, 2012, 02:05 PM | #9 |
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Saw a red 06 SV650s for sale near middletown on CL with 18k miles for $3600
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July 7th, 2012, 02:13 PM | #10 |
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July 7th, 2012, 02:14 PM | #11 |
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July 8th, 2012, 02:21 PM | #13 |
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July 8th, 2012, 02:53 PM | #14 | |
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Keep looking. You still have a bike now, so it's not a huge deal. Trust me, it's worth the wait. I bought my 05 SV650N for less than 3k with less than 8000 miles. The previous owner mainly did track days on it, so it had all the goodies (rearsets, clipons, shock, springs) and the main issue is a couple huge dents in the tank from some lowsides and a high side. So far it's been great. Keep an eye out on SVRider.com, as a lot of people put their bikes up there and offer a slight discount over Craigslist locals. As for the bike itself, I currently run the SV solely on the track, but I rode it for a while around the street.. Let me tell you, the body position and geometry is uncomfortable as hell with clip-ons. Risers are a must for stock geometry. On top of that, I personally found no fairing to be unpleasant after 10,000 miles of the fully faired Ninjette. Highway control, though, is great. Smooth power (takes getting used to from the 250), and more than enough power to have some fun! It's great in the twisties, it's great as DD. Fuel injection is very nice alternative to carburetors (though I've yet to test it in the cold). My suggestion: If you get a SV650N, get a windscreen. It get's tiring on the highway battling with the wind for two hours, though I'm not the strongest and the position with clip-ons did not help. If you get an SV650S, the position is not as bad as with regular clipons as they have -some- rise to them. If you find them uncomfortable, you can spend a little to get some Converti-bars/heli bars (high-rise clip-ons) that will drastically improve the position for sport touring and commuting -- more Ninjette like, if you will. As for fuel economy, I managed to get 45-50MPG with aggressive (+10PSL) riding on the street, I have no idea what I get on the track, but nowhere near that. The other nice bit about the SV is it's still easy on the tires. Torque is very manageable, and it's easy to get comfortable with. You get going pretty quick in comparison to the 250. It's a little heavier, but not that much heavier. I don't think it is that much more stable than the 250, but I didn't think the 250 was that unstable and I dropped the front end a bit too. EDIT: Here is the SVRider Bikes For Sale section: http://www.svrider.com/forum/forumdi...=33&order=desc Someone JUST sold a bike in GA for ~2900. ~11k on the odometer. Lurk often, keep an eye out. Be willing to travel some, as it expands the chance of finding a good deal. The only thing I'd avoid is a 2003 SV. Nothing particularly wrong with it, but it is ever so slightly different than the following years in many ways, so it's not exactly compatible as far as parts are concerned. 2007+ has 2 spark plugs per cylinder and an oxygen sensor, and that's really the only difference within that generation. 2005+ have black frames (changed from silver). You can also look for a Gladius. |
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July 8th, 2012, 03:30 PM | #15 |
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You want an '04 and up. The '03 is different from the rest, it has a different seat and different tail sub-frame.
I had an'07 nekkid, loved it wish I had never sold it. Edit: to add picture. Last futzed with by Lew360; July 9th, 2012 at 07:51 AM. |
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July 8th, 2012, 04:47 PM | #16 |
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I had an '06 naked in Napoleon Blue. It was torquey and great for commuting around town, but lacked on the highway due to getting windblown, and lacked on the twisties (190lb rider w/ gear) due to the budget type non-fully adjustable suspension. I upgraded the rear shock with a brand new take off zx-14 shock, and the front is easily upgradable with different springs and emulators. They are reliable, cheap parts, and have a very nice forum similar to this one at svrider.com. They are also an extremely comfortable upright position (especially with the pro-taper bars I had on mine). I recently moved and now commute on the dead straight interstate 20 miles every morning, and also found some awesome twisty roads out here where I needed better suspension and brakes for my weight. At the point where I was contemplating a gsxr front end swap, for the difference in price of selling the SV at peak early summer and waiting for a steal on a 600 I opted to just go for a sport. I miss it every time I drive through town, or every time my ass gets sore on long R6 rides. Here's a picture for your enjoyment.
edit: Just a heads up at how much prices fluctuate, I bought mine with half the mods last august for $3300 in NY, 8k miles. A few mods and 2k miles later I sold if for $4500 late spring/early summer in IN. Hold out for a good deal on a lower mileage one.
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July 13th, 2012, 03:28 AM | #20 |
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Hey guys just to all let you know, I put an offer into a 2005 SV650S yesterday. I should be purchasing and riding it back home Saturday or mid next week. So once I have the SV, I will be putting my Ninja 250 up for sale, that post will come here soon.
Here's what's been done to the bike and more info: 2005 Suzuki SV650S Adult owned, never wheelied or stunted. 14,537 miles, blue with full fairings. Well maintained, reliable bike. Yoshimura stainless Tri-Oval slip-on exhaust Suzuki OEM frame sliders Rebuilt forks with Racetech valves, Sonic spings, new Suzuki seals and 20wt fork oil Rebuilt 2006 GSX-R1000 fully adjustable rear shock with new Suzuki seals Nucular mounting bracket with rebuilt 2006 GSX-R600 OEM steering damper New EK SRX 520 gold chain with rivet master link New Pitbull 20f/45r sprockets (steel/aluminium) New Dunlop Q2s 120/70/ZR17 front 160/60/ZR17 rear (less than 250 miles) New Vesrah RJL front pads in rebuilt calipers, Speedbleeders, Goodridge steel braided brake lines, rebuilt master cylinder filled with Motul RBF600 fluid Stompgrip and Harris Performance SV tank pads Black FP Racing adjustable clutch and brake levers Anodized aluminum swingarm spools New Yuasa battery Fresh oil, crush washer, Suzuki oil filter, Suzuki air filter, NGK plugs and Water Wetter coolant Everything except the exhaust, frame sliders and levers was done in April 2012, the bike has less than 250 miles on it since then. Here's a pic: |
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July 13th, 2012, 08:53 AM | #21 |
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how much did you offer
"never wheelied or stunted" is kinda a joke. if that guy wasn't riding that thing like a bat out of hell, he did a whole lot of suspension work for nothing.
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July 13th, 2012, 02:22 PM | #22 |
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I offered $3,500 and he said that was perfect. I guess that SV was taken on a track only two times but it was a beginner course so the bike never was pushed hard. He has two other sportbikes and wanted this Sv to handle suspension wise almost as good.
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July 13th, 2012, 02:56 PM | #23 |
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look at the inside of the bike, youll probably find safetywire. safetywire means it was probably raced. not that that really means much, racers take better care of their bikes. but it tells you he is not being honest. 3500 is too much in my opinion. 3000 at the most
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July 13th, 2012, 04:40 PM | #24 | |
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July 13th, 2012, 04:59 PM | #27 | |
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July 13th, 2012, 05:16 PM | #28 | |
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He has also put a lot of work and money into this bike, the miles are relatively low too. Me being the buyer, I will make the determination if it has been raced or not in good condition. |
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July 13th, 2012, 05:24 PM | #29 | |
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even if it was only "a few track days"... track means pushing it hard. you dont mosey around a track. i have no doubt he commuted on the bike also. but the fact remains- his advertisement was dishonest about whats been done to the bike. you should check out some classified ads on race bike forums. you will be stunned by the quality of bike you can get for the price simply because racers know the value of a bike and wont try to gouge you
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July 13th, 2012, 05:39 PM | #30 | |
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July 13th, 2012, 05:46 PM | #32 |
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I would change it as soon as I got it home, but it is up to you. The response from the front is probably going to be slow and vague. With the proper spings and oil the front will be very close to a cartridge fork.
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July 13th, 2012, 06:32 PM | #33 |
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keep in mind the actual viscosity of fork oils changes depending on manufacturer. two different sets of 15w might be as far off as 10 and 20w depending on manufacturer.
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July 13th, 2012, 06:55 PM | #34 | |
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July 13th, 2012, 07:00 PM | #35 |
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You can read Alex's sig, then ask how much experience he has on an SV and make your decision.
I know oil weights vary by manufacturers, but any 20 is way too much for emulators. I would use a PJ 10 at most, I would really like to see a 7.5. BTW: I had 8000 miles on the SV and I had emulators on my forks. |
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July 13th, 2012, 07:05 PM | #36 |
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Hmmm...I have no idea how to change oil weight. But again, we'll see. Thanks for the info.
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July 13th, 2012, 07:38 PM | #38 |
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kinda hard to say much about how correctly its tuned simply based on what the owner told someone was in there while he was selling it. you probably want to actually have the bike and be able to ride and test it before you start planning whats wrong with it and how it should be fixed.
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Wait....what?!?
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