Slipon Exhaust.. No mods Necessary? MGP GROWLER

ACTNinja · September 16th, 2012, 04:16 AM

Hey guys brand new to the motorcycle world as well as forums.. so please excuse my noobishness

I've owned my brand new Ninja 250 (first bike) for 8 days and loving it! 777kms in.

The stock exhaust does sound a little wimpy though and I live in a city home to australia's most oblivious drivers.. Im concidering a slipon exhaust; MGP growler.
Just wondering if any mods are needed for a slipon like this? The manufactors website says not but my insticts

say other wise.

Also if anybody who has one of these on there bike or had one want to give some feedback that would be appreciated, read some very mixed reactions on the net from gunshot backfire stories to people rating it as the greatest ever. Main reason for buying this slipon is the price.

Thanks

Mountain Dew · September 16th, 2012, 04:38 AM

I'm sure the collective Ninjette would implore you not to get an MGP Growler, or any slip-on.

The extra noise from a loud exhaust would not be noticeable to anyone in front of you, unless the exhaust exits forward.
@Jiggles

ACTNinja · September 16th, 2012, 04:53 AM

Hey man thanks for the quick reply!

Would love love love a full system! Defiantly some time down the track! But I can't even even afford the pipes let alone the install at the moment

The loud pipes weren't really for drivers infront of me.. mainly the ones driving right beside me who change lanes without even glacing. Already experienced that a number of times. Not a good feeling. I've been avoiding driving beside cars when i can but traffic does get a little hectic at times.

Was considering the slipon mainly because I could install it myself and it was a cheaper option to buy. So yeah any mods neccersary?

Or are they that bad and is it really worth just rocking the stock pipe for now?

Mountain Dew · September 16th, 2012, 05:26 AM

Just keep the stock pipe and invest that in gear or save up. If they didn't SEE you next to them, what makes you then they'll hear your slightly louder exhaust?

fleemos · September 16th, 2012, 05:43 AM

I agree this won't get drivers to see you if you ride normally. You would have to be close to or at full throttle the whole time to have any chance of it working the way you are suggesting which I highly doubt you can do in traffic. If you want an exhaust because you like then sound then go ahead and get it.

ACTNinja · September 16th, 2012, 05:50 AM

Thanks for replies!
I do enjoy the look of them and the noise

Anybody know if a jetting kit or anything is needed though?

Bit confused?

k-os · September 16th, 2012, 08:22 AM

At a minimum you'll want to shim your needles.

Panda · September 16th, 2012, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACTNinja

Thanks for replies!
I do enjoy the look of them and the noise

Anybody know if a jetting kit or anything is needed though?

Bit confused?

If the slipon manufacturer says you don't need to shim or rejet you may not need to. It may run lean though.

Jiggles · September 16th, 2012, 06:30 PM

Don't waste your money on noisey junk. You have a horn, use it

xSean13 · September 16th, 2012, 06:41 PM

Even if you opt for a slip-on...the growler sounds absolutely horrible. This kid down the road has one on his and it's the most obnoxious sounding pipe i've heard. If you want it to be louder but can't afford a full system, the Danmoto is pretty good, and cheap. It's fairly loud, but not as retarded as the others.

Jiggles · September 16th, 2012, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSean13

Even if you opt for a slip-on...the growler sounds absolutely horrible. This kid down the road has one on his and it's the most obnoxious sounding pipe i've heard. If you want it to be louder but can't afford a full system, the Danmoto is pretty good, and cheap. It's fairly loud, but not as retarded as the others.

lol cmon, they are all running in the special olympics, doesn't matter who wins

menikmati · September 16th, 2012, 06:51 PM

Mo' braps.

xSean13 · September 16th, 2012, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

lol cmon, they are all running in the special olympics, doesn't matter who wins

Maybe, but they could have chosen to just play at the playground. While they may not be able to compete in the real olympics, they're at least competing in the special olympics.

nealt · September 17th, 2012, 02:57 PM

++++1 to not getting the MGP or any short can exhaust like the (two bros cans)
I find the short cans though they look nice are excessively and obnoxiously loud with the worst tone ever.
The short cans do not blend the firing from the twin cylinders so it comes out as two separate braps, to my ears they sound awful, not like a v-twin sound either.
The longer cans like AreaP's blend the exhaust noise nicely and sound way better...just my 2 cents..

Cazper · September 17th, 2012, 09:23 PM

I had an MGP Growler... I too bought it because it was cheap... looked really good and initially I thought I'd like the sound. Worst money I ever spent on my bike. It was so obnoxiously loud that on any extended ride I would get a headache. Noone ever wanted to ride directly behind me and you could hear it from blocks away. I am so much happier with my Yoshi full system that I wish I would have never bought the Growler.

That being said... if you still buy it... I found that after I shimmed the needles, removed the emmissions and desnorkeled the bike it ran much smoother. I used to get a lot of backfire on decel before tweaking the bike. It doesn't need a full rejet... but the aforementioned tweaks should do the trick. Good luck with your decision

streetsquid · September 18th, 2012, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cazper

I had an MGP Growler... I too bought it because it was cheap... looked really good and initially I thought I'd like the sound. Worst money I ever spent on my bike. It was so obnoxiously loud that on any extended ride I would get a headache. Noone ever wanted to ride directly behind me and you could hear it from blocks away. I am so much happier with my Yoshi full system that I wish I would have never bought the Growler.

That being said... if you still buy it... I found that after I shimmed the needles, removed the emmissions and desnorkeled the bike it ran much smoother. I used to get a lot of backfire on decel before tweaking the bike. It doesn't need a full rejet... but the aforementioned tweaks should do the trick. Good luck with your decision

Yes it's very loud and mine is just sitting in the box right now cause I replaced with something quiter

James13 · September 27th, 2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetsquid

Yes it's very loud and mine is just sitting in the box right now cause I replaced with something quiter

I know everyone is saying its to loud, but I want to experience it for myself... Seeing as yours is in a box, what are the chances of you wanting to sell it?

ACTNinja · September 27th, 2012, 04:31 PM

So I've been watching a heap of YouTube videos etc. The growler does sound quite retarted.. Almost like a dirt bike. Shame, love the look of it.

Going to save for a carbon fibre yoshimura slipon.

Aggrotech · September 29th, 2012, 12:17 PM

OP just watch youtube videos. People always say "my recorder does not do it justice ect" but the growler in person sounds EXACTLY like the youtube videos, i experienced an epic squid with a growler not too long ago.

so much brap

xSean13 · September 29th, 2012, 12:21 PM

I'm glad you wised-up! My neighbor has the growler on his ninja 250, it's the most annoying thing in the world. It sounds like a retarded racing 4-wheeler, and I can still hear him a mile or so down the road out of our neighborhood.

hillbillyhank · September 29th, 2012, 01:06 PM

I have the growler on my 250 and while it may be obnoxious to most, it's all about what you like. Personally I like it because it sounds like a pissed off weed-eater, lol. It's by far one of the better looking exhausts for a 250 as well.

As far as performance, I shimmed my needles and took off the snorkel and it runs like a dream. Just an fyi, I added 2 washers when shimming. YMMV though. Happy riding!

September 16th, 2012, 04:16 AM	#1
ACTNinja ninjette.org member Name: Blake Location: Canberra Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): '12 Ninja 250r Posts: 14	Slipon Exhaust.. No mods Necessary? MGP GROWLER Hey guys brand new to the motorcycle world as well as forums.. so please excuse my noobishness I've owned my brand new Ninja 250 (first bike) for 8 days and loving it! 777kms in. The stock exhaust does sound a little wimpy though and I live in a city home to australia's most oblivious drivers.. Im concidering a slipon exhaust; MGP growler. Just wondering if any mods are needed for a slipon like this? The manufactors website says not but my insticts say other wise. Also if anybody who has one of these on there bike or had one want to give some feedback that would be appreciated, read some very mixed reactions on the net from gunshot backfire stories to people rating it as the greatest ever. Main reason for buying this slipon is the price. Thanks

September 16th, 2012, 04:38 AM	#2
Mountain Dew Ambrosia. Name: Jaymie Location: Oahu, Hawaii Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1974 Honda CB550K0 W.I.P. Posts: A lot.	I'm sure the collective Ninjette would implore you not to get an MGP Growler, or any slip-on. The extra noise from a loud exhaust would not be noticeable to anyone in front of you, unless the exhaust exits forward. @Jiggles __________________________________________________ Life's better on the Mountain.

September 16th, 2012, 05:26 AM	#4
Mountain Dew Ambrosia. Name: Jaymie Location: Oahu, Hawaii Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1974 Honda CB550K0 W.I.P. Posts: A lot.	Just keep the stock pipe and invest that in gear or save up. If they didn't SEE you next to them, what makes you then they'll hear your slightly louder exhaust? __________________________________________________ Life's better on the Mountain.

September 16th, 2012, 06:30 PM	#9
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Don't waste your money on noisey junk. You have a horn, use it __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 17th, 2012, 09:23 PM	#15
Cazper ninjaholic Name: Dustin Location: Oceanside, CA Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09' SE 250R (sold), 03' ZX-6R, 99' XL1200C SP Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	I had an MGP Growler... I too bought it because it was cheap... looked really good and initially I thought I'd like the sound. Worst money I ever spent on my bike. It was so obnoxiously loud that on any extended ride I would get a headache. Noone ever wanted to ride directly behind me and you could hear it from blocks away. I am so much happier with my Yoshi full system that I wish I would have never bought the Growler. That being said... if you still buy it... I found that after I shimmed the needles, removed the emmissions and desnorkeled the bike it ran much smoother. I used to get a lot of backfire on decel before tweaking the bike. It doesn't need a full rejet... but the aforementioned tweaks should do the trick. Good luck with your decision __________________________________________________ 09' SE Ninja 250R $2,547.83 worth of mods installed... come on Unregistered, you know you want to know what? Check my Blog "Modification List"

September 16th, 2012, 04:53 AM	#3
ACTNinja ninjette.org member Name: Blake Location: Canberra Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): '12 Ninja 250r Posts: 14	Hey man thanks for the quick reply! Would love love love a full system! Defiantly some time down the track! But I can't even even afford the pipes let alone the install at the moment The loud pipes weren't really for drivers infront of me.. mainly the ones driving right beside me who change lanes without even glacing. Already experienced that a number of times. Not a good feeling. I've been avoiding driving beside cars when i can but traffic does get a little hectic at times. Was considering the slipon mainly because I could install it myself and it was a cheaper option to buy. So yeah any mods neccersary? Or are they that bad and is it really worth just rocking the stock pipe for now?

September 16th, 2012, 05:43 AM	#5
fleemos ninjette.org guru Name: Darren Location: Sandy Springs, GA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Yamaha FZ6R, 2014 Suzuki GSX-R600 Posts: 299	I agree this won't get drivers to see you if you ride normally. You would have to be close to or at full throttle the whole time to have any chance of it working the way you are suggesting which I highly doubt you can do in traffic. If you want an exhaust because you like then sound then go ahead and get it.

September 16th, 2012, 05:50 AM	#6
ACTNinja ninjette.org member Name: Blake Location: Canberra Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): '12 Ninja 250r Posts: 14	Thanks for replies! I do enjoy the look of them and the noise Anybody know if a jetting kit or anything is needed though? Bit confused?

September 16th, 2012, 08:22 AM	#7
k-os ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Sheboygan, WI Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 1988 Honda Hawk NT650, 1989 Honda Hawk NT650, 1997 GSXR750 Track Bike Posts: 890	At a minimum you'll want to shim your needles.

September 16th, 2012, 06:41 PM	#10
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Even if you opt for a slip-on...the growler sounds absolutely horrible. This kid down the road has one on his and it's the most obnoxious sounding pipe i've heard. If you want it to be louder but can't afford a full system, the Danmoto is pretty good, and cheap. It's fairly loud, but not as retarded as the others.

September 16th, 2012, 06:51 PM	#12
menikmati crash 250, get supersport Name: Richard Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R SE (Sold 6/9/14), 2009 ZX-6R (Sold 6/25/14), Subaru BRZ Posts: A lot.	Mo' braps.

September 17th, 2012, 02:57 PM	#14
nealt ninjette.org member Name: Neal Location: Toronto, Ontario Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250 Posts: 56	++++1 to not getting the MGP or any short can exhaust like the (two bros cans) I find the short cans though they look nice are excessively and obnoxiously loud with the worst tone ever. The short cans do not blend the firing from the twin cylinders so it comes out as two separate braps, to my ears they sound awful, not like a v-twin sound either. The longer cans like AreaP's blend the exhaust noise nicely and sound way better...just my 2 cents..

September 27th, 2012, 04:31 PM	#18
ACTNinja ninjette.org member Name: Blake Location: Canberra Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): '12 Ninja 250r Posts: 14	So I've been watching a heap of YouTube videos etc. The growler does sound quite retarted.. Almost like a dirt bike. Shame, love the look of it. Going to save for a carbon fibre yoshimura slipon.

September 29th, 2012, 12:17 PM	#19
Aggrotech ninjette.org sage Name: Justin Location: Fresno CA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 12' Ninja 250 Posts: 831	OP just watch youtube videos. People always say "my recorder does not do it justice ect" but the growler in person sounds EXACTLY like the youtube videos, i experienced an epic squid with a growler not too long ago. so much brap

September 29th, 2012, 12:21 PM	#20
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	I'm glad you wised-up! My neighbor has the growler on his ninja 250, it's the most annoying thing in the world. It sounds like a retarded racing 4-wheeler, and I can still hear him a mile or so down the road out of our neighborhood.

September 29th, 2012, 01:06 PM	#21
hillbillyhank ninjette.org member Name: Hank Location: Denham Springs, LA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250; 2006 50th anniversary edition R6 Posts: 22	I have the growler on my 250 and while it may be obnoxious to most, it's all about what you like. Personally I like it because it sounds like a pissed off weed-eater, lol. It's by far one of the better looking exhausts for a 250 as well. As far as performance, I shimmed my needles and took off the snorkel and it runs like a dream. Just an fyi, I added 2 washers when shimming. YMMV though. Happy riding! __________________________________________________ I have my eyes on you, Unregistered.

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