November 8th, 2012, 01:21 AM | #1 |
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Bikers are so absurd sometimes. No wonder cagers hate em.
Traveling south on I-15 in Temecula. It is around 8pm so traffic has lightened up and it is dark. I am in my Scion xB in the far right lane with my cruise control set at 55MPH. Yes it is slow, but this is how I always drive on freeways, cruise set at 55. I average 48MPG by doing this compared to the EPA HWY 34MPG.
Anyway, a barrage of single-headlight vehicles approach rapidly in my rear-view. I count about 5-7 bikes. And they are riding my tail. They stay behind me for a good minute and a half, even though the three lanes to our left were wide open. So eventually, one of the bikes in the back of the pack gun it past and cut in front of me. It was a black Honda CBR 1000RR ridden by a male with a leather vest signifying his belonging to a bike gang. He gets in the right part of the lane and rapidly slows to around 30MPH. He doesn't brake, just downshifts rapidly. I brake hard nearly taking out the rest of the gang behind me. Plus, the Prius behind them almost sandwiched the entire gang. Luckily though, the rest of the sport bikes gun it around me and speed off. This, in short, is the reason why bikers have such a bad reputation on the road. They do stupid ish like this and cause incredible amounts of havoc and frustration. It's understandable if I did something 'cager-like', but the acts of what occurred were completely uncalled for. Please don't be a douche on your bikes guys, it isn't right. You make it worse for all the other bikers who want to actually be SAFE around cagers. Last futzed with by ajcadoo; November 8th, 2012 at 09:22 PM. |
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November 8th, 2012, 02:03 AM | #2 |
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That was quiet idiotic what those guys did, I'm glad you kept your cool though.
Personal rant to follow... [rant] You should see the bikers in India... It'll give you a whole new dimension to irresponsible, careless and undisciplined. Sure, the entire traffic scenario in my country can be covered by those three words, but bikers more so. There is an unfortunate mentality in my country that the big guy is always at fault. If you're a biker and you bang into a pedestrian, it's your fault. If you're a cager and you bang into a biker/pedestrian, it HAS to be your fault. The "smaller" person could never possibly be responsible. That said, Bikers in India are THE MOST IRRESPONSIBLE bikers out there. You should see them zipping in and out of traffic cutting in front of pretty much everybody, overtaking from the wrong side, squeezing into the tiniest of spaces and sometimes even when there is no space. They have a tendency to pretty much leave their safety up to you, like it's your job to save them and not their own. [/rant] |
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November 8th, 2012, 06:11 AM | #3 |
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I can't exactly say I would try to save an idiot that is REALLY trying to die. You are a better man than me. All gangs in general just need to disappear.
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November 8th, 2012, 06:12 AM | #4 |
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much the same here in Thailand they give me the sh1ts
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November 8th, 2012, 07:31 AM | #5 |
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i tend to favor the transportation method i am using at the time lol i am such a hypocrite.
If i am on my pedal bike, all pedestrians and motor vehicles are A-holes! If i am walking, all pedal bikes and motor vehicles are A-holes! If i am in my car or truck, all pedal bikes, motorcycles, and pedestrians are A-holes! If i am on my motorcycle.... you get the picture At least i am aware of this odd thinking of mine and do experience all the good and the bad of each fairly regularly so it does broaden my perspective of each a bit |
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November 8th, 2012, 07:35 AM | #6 |
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It isn't really that simple my friend, in most such cases the blame is generally put on the person at the back... My friend was once in a 5 car pileup and the entire blam went on him(insurance wise) because his car was the last...
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November 8th, 2012, 08:37 AM | #7 |
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Those guys on the bikes should have just left you alone. There was no reason to harass you.
But 55 on the highway? Last time I was in CA, I was in LA with my family, and those highways were moving like 75+ and packed. 55 seems kinda unsafe. Screw some of the mileage, at least peg the cruise at 65 to close the speed gap a little bit. |
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November 8th, 2012, 08:50 AM | #8 |
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November 8th, 2012, 09:08 AM | #9 |
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Whether you are riding your motorcycle or driving your car, you kind of always have to remember that 1/8 people is likely a raging sociopath who wouldn't think twice about doing you bodily harm. You aren't going to change these people, and the best thing to do is avoid them at any cost.
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November 8th, 2012, 09:58 AM | #10 | |
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I stress this to my wife, and can't believe how p***ed off some tiny women drives get over stupid stuff. And not just pointing the finger a males as potentially being psycho but some crazy guy in a truck or even car, and little lady wants to rage at him?. What if he follows you, wrecks you, who knows Just not worth it And getting P***y on a bike at a car is just plain dumb, the upper hand is almost always on the cagers side, only thing you got going for you is splitting traffic ect... to make a get away where they can't follow. |
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November 8th, 2012, 10:07 AM | #11 | |
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most trucks run at about 60mph. 55 isn't that bad for a 4-lane highway.
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But idk, there's a lot of idiots who ignore that. I wouldn't feel comfortable with going 15-20mph slower than the flow of traffic. |
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November 8th, 2012, 11:24 AM | #15 |
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last time i saw person do that cutoff and brake maneuver it was someone getting pulled out of a vehicle, and jumped...
i probably would have just ran him over.
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November 8th, 2012, 01:56 PM | #17 |
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almost all american made cars are limited to 104mph here. in the middle of the night (3am) on a 5lane it's not uncommon to see expensive euro cars doing 120+. the police are looking for drunks so generally if you slow down when they make themselves visible they won't bother too much, but if you react too slowly or anything like that or are just cruising in the fast lane doing 85 they will pull you over to check you out at least. (if you can't tell, we have a little drunk driving problem over here)
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November 8th, 2012, 02:17 PM | #19 |
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i think its a law in the US for street production cars built in the US to be limited at 106 but most limit it just under it
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November 8th, 2012, 02:24 PM | #20 |
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CA Highways are limited to 70 mph. CHP usually has a little bit of leeway, but you certainly can get pulled over at 75.
Trucks are limited to 55mph. Many of them go faster, but cruising 55 will put you right with a whole bunch of the trucks, and it's not unsafe. |
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November 8th, 2012, 02:28 PM | #21 |
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I can tell you from personal experience on the 15 south from Vegas to SD and from Escondidio to SD that cars in America are not required to have a limiter at 106. I had my tC doing ~120mph for about 30 min and had my buddies Jetta at 140mph till I got passed by a Corvette doing at least 150mph. I've even gotte my dad's 1990 Cherokee to 115mph for about 5 miles before we exited. None of these cars had been modified from stock to go any faster.
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November 8th, 2012, 02:28 PM | #22 |
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Maybe a Cali thing Alex... you guys/gals have to put up w some crazy **** at times. (example off top my head is the smog stuff and the cali size gas tanks for the ninja 250s).
I rent cars weekly and sure I just had a 2013 Impala and a few weeks ago a Ford Taurus (probably 2011-2012) and I had both doing well over 104 at times on the interstate. |
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November 8th, 2012, 02:55 PM | #23 | |
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November 8th, 2012, 03:59 PM | #24 |
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I always expect whether driving my cage or bike that if someone is in my way, ill go around them. No reason why someone else should get over when I'm the one speeding, now when I'm on the bike and people think its better to just get out of my way bothers me, I always have a route if passing then if they get over I have to switch to plan b quickly.
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Regarding the OP, no telling what the deal was with those guys. They could have been on a ride together and were trying not to get split up. The guy that slowed down may have been having bike trouble. He could have been on a Harley.
I wouldn't read too much in to leather jackets. They were probably on cruisers and that is what you wear when you are on those. Usually, motorcycle clubs put all their club names on patches on the jackets. Sometimes you see logos or colors rather than names. You can be a member of multiple clubs. Quote:
Are you sure that isn't just a California thing? Its hard to imagine a Corvette limited to 106.
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I would always jokingly brag to people saying that my car goes so fast they had to electronically limit it to 155 haha. Haha here's the sticker I see on some cars
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Nope. No such law in CA or anywhere else in the US. Manufacturers do put speed limiters on cars, primarily to make sure that the car can't do a speed that is greater than the speed ratings of the tires that might be installed on it (including the all-weather, non-performance oriented ones). Many Audi's are limited to 130, but not the S versions. Mercedes has different limits on their cars, from 130, to 155, to 174, etc., depending on the powertrain and option pack. Some cars have no speed limiters, other than hitting redline in top gear. (including my Mazdaspeed3).
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November 8th, 2012, 08:39 PM | #32 |
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Wow, even motorcycles that get damned good fuel mileage get screwed by CARB bs.
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November 8th, 2012, 08:51 PM | #33 |
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No offense but you both sound like retarded drivers...55 on 4 lane highway regardless of what lane is too slow and a safety hazard.
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Honestly speed limits are generally tossed out the window, but the limits are set so low, you would really get no where trying to adhere to them. As far as traffic signals are concerned, it depends on where you are and what time of the day it is. No one adheres to traffic signals at night here, in fact most of them are shut off past 11:00pm. There is a general lack of regard for civility while driving.
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<rant> They are enforcing the speed limits harshly in my area. On an 8 mile drive to work I'll see 3 cars/bikes pulled over almost daily. I drive the speed limit period. IMO California law enforcement is trying to relieve the state’s debt by enforcing piss ant laws. Within the last month I got a ticket for my truck sticking out 12" past my driveway into the sidewalk, my son got another for parking 18" away from the curb, and my RV got one for not moving every 72 hrs. We live at the top of a hill with no thru traffic and only 10 houses. I've talked to each of my neighbors and they are fine with my RV, which I use regularly. I doubt I was causing any real traffic issues. A warning would have been fine. I'll adjust my vehicles if they are such a nuisance.</rant>
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Possibly. I hear he has been hanging out with Kevin. That would make anyone crazy.
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IMO, they need to enforce the laws more there, I hate driving there and seeing the jackasses who think their quarter or half ton truck should be pulling a massive toy hauler or RV trailer getting pushed down the vine at 80 mph in a death swerve, and it's something I see almost every time I run the vine. |
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I actually welcome more strict enforcement of speeding limits, cause I just generally don't trust the selfish stupid masses to drive that fast. |
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