January 31st, 2013, 09:43 PM | #1 |
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Stock tires vs. the track
I'm looking at doing a track day/weekend this coming summer and while I still have to get the gear for it, what are ya'll opinion's on using the stock IRC tires? I figure that I'm going to be spending ~$1000 on suit, gloves, boots and probably a new helmet and didn't want to add another $300 in tires since this is my daily.
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January 31st, 2013, 09:53 PM | #2 |
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lol
Buy some take-offs for < $100 and enjoy, simple as that. Enjoy the track yo! I expect a full report.
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January 31st, 2013, 10:05 PM | #3 |
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Poor baby doesn't want to spend $300 on tires and would rather spend $600 on repairs..
Get new tires. Those stock tires aren't even good enough for the street let alone the track. Which tires? Bridgestone S20s will give you lots of street life and will do well for your first few track days. BT003s are stickier but give you less street life. Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs are made by track riding jesus. Street life is meh.
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January 31st, 2013, 10:34 PM | #5 | |
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January 31st, 2013, 10:35 PM | #6 |
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I meant the life expectancy on the street is meh, i still will run only Rosso IIs on this bike forever. Unless I get slicks.
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January 31st, 2013, 10:41 PM | #7 |
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Now for sure you should get a new set of tires for the track, sportbiketrackgear.com has rosso 2s for a total of a little over $200. But the IRC's are more than capable for whatever you're doing on the street
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February 1st, 2013, 07:51 AM | #10 |
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So, what I am hearing is eat ramen for a few weeks and get some DR II's or BT003's?
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February 1st, 2013, 07:57 AM | #11 |
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Saving on tires for the track is not really saving. Confidence in the rubber on your bike is a key part of enjoying yourself that day. Will you exceed the limits of the IRC's, perhaps not. But as you approach those limits, the suggested tires will feel better and behave more predictably.
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February 1st, 2013, 08:00 AM | #12 |
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February 1st, 2013, 08:03 AM | #13 |
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I have a set of bt003 take-offs I will sell you for $25 + shipping. Problem solved?
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February 1st, 2013, 08:26 AM | #14 |
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I use my race tires for 1 race weekend and then sell them for $150 shipped.
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February 1st, 2013, 08:33 AM | #15 |
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What tires you running Peanut? I may be interested in a set just to try something new without paying full retail. Everyone is still pretty set on BT003's out here.
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February 1st, 2013, 08:33 AM | #16 |
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I'd also suggest looking around for a track day with local clubs/organizations.
I have been looking into it myself for this coming summer, and for 80 bucks a day, I can rent a very nice, fully padded dainese leather suit. Sure, it's used, but they clean them. They also rent boots, gloves, and helmets, even though I'm covered there. |
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February 1st, 2013, 08:38 AM | #17 |
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Ah yea Fox, rental gear. I should write up a nice article on going to the track on the cheap.
Here is what you can do to save some coin. Find a local bike night in your area and go. Make some new friends and know who the track rats are. Track riders are a different kinda of animal. They will do just about anything to get you to the track. Just tell em where you stand. Even if it means hauling you to the track or letting you use the gear off their own back. Some will even offer to let you ride one of their bikes. Ask me how I know...
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i'm of the mindset work with the least to become the best but for your first track day maybe just work with fresh rubber on getting to know that big wonderful ribbon of black tarmac we call home.
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February 1st, 2013, 09:06 AM | #21 |
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alex.s has a fine point indeed but here is the other side of that coin.
Crashing hurts.... Bike & tire tech has come so far, that it can compensate for a lot of rider error. So when your new, why not take advantage of that? If you can up the tech (stickier tires in this case) on your bike to increase your margin of error, then I say do it. I am not saying let the bike and tires be your crutch or substitute for skills but it doesn't have to hurt so much while learning, if you know what I mean. Once you got the basic's down, then going with the minimum kinda happens all by itself most of the time to further the addiction. hahahahahahah
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March 17th, 2013, 05:06 PM | #26 |
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Completely, 100% agree. Kinda cool, isn't it?
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March 17th, 2013, 10:11 PM | #27 |
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If its your first (or even 3rd) I highly doubt many ppl will be better than their tyres.
You'll crash on a first track day because your riding is ****, not because of your tyres. Its actually a good learning curve to ride on tyres with feel. |
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March 18th, 2013, 07:42 AM | #28 |
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I tracked on the stockers, not my first track day, and I put the bike down. Now just IMHO but:
The tires did not make me crash, nor will tracking them make you crash. I put the bike down because I pushed too hard trying to get past faster straight line bikes in frustration - my mistake no doubt. They will do just fine on the track as long as your keep them within their limits. Now that being said, they suck. If you have the time and money get some take offs, not because you have to but because it will allow you to have more fun. The stock tires just didn't have great feel or grip and while they will wear like iron; they limit the experience. |
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