Only took me two tries to pass my MSF

psykick5 · May 12th, 2013, 09:35 PM

Haha well hey guys,

It makes me feel a tad bit like a loser that it took me two tries, but oh well. The first time I failed the test with 28 pts (20 to pass) because I anticipated the brake trap. The second time I took it, though, I got a perfect score. Progress, I guess.

Now the search begins for a Ninja 250… everyone around here wants way too much money for them… it's dumb.

It's great to be here.

Thanks.

KawiKid860 · May 12th, 2013, 09:40 PM

No worries on taking it twice, lots of people don't pass the first time! And you made a huge improvement since you got a perfect score the second time, that's a good thing! That's what MSF is for! Good luck trying to find a bike, summer prices are getting crazier and crazier by the day it seems.

NathanUc · May 12th, 2013, 09:49 PM

4 people in my MSF course failed so nothing to worry about (3 of them dropped even!). More experience on someone elses bike is good experience

Yeah, getting rough looking for used bikes around this time of year.. At this point though, don't rush into anything as (at least in my area) motorcycle prices pretty much peak from May-July

psykick5 · May 12th, 2013, 09:54 PM

It's just ridiculous

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=25117...ninja&ad_cid=1

I saw a brand new 2012 250r on closeout for $4k...

NathanUc · May 12th, 2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by psykick5

It's just ridiculous

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=25117...ninja&ad_cid=1

I saw a brand new 2012 250r on closeout for $4k...

People are crazy. Depending on the service records that bike might not even be worth $2,500.

Would a new 300r be out of the question?

psykick5 · May 12th, 2013, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanUc

People are crazy. Depending on the service records that bike might not even be worth $2,500.

Would a new 300r be out of the question?

Yeah I'm looking to get a bike for between 2000 and 3000. The closer to 2000 the better I need to get experienced on a bike that I can drop and not lose thousands.

NathanUc · May 12th, 2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by psykick5

Yeah I'm looking to get a bike for between 2000 and 3000. The closer to 2000 the better I need to get experienced on a bike that I can drop and not lose thousands.

Is Salt Lake City too far for you? I think you'd have the best bet looking around that area. I'm seeing an 2002 250r for $1,800 around there (also a 2010 for 3,100).

psykick5 · May 12th, 2013, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanUc

Is Salt Lake City too far for you? I think you'd have the best bet looking around that area. I'm seeing an 2002 250r for $1,800 around there (also a 2010 for 3,100).

Haha Sandy is in the Salt Lake metropolitan area so no… it's not too far.

Where's the 3100 one?

NathanUc · May 12th, 2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by psykick5

Haha Sandy is in the Salt Lake metropolitan area so no… it's not too far.

Where's the 3100 one?

Oh, I never had the opportunity to head out west to Utah. I was offered an internship with Microsoft at one point though.

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/mcy/3799961069.html

psykick5 · May 13th, 2013, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NathanUc

Oh, I never had the opportunity to head out west to Utah. I was offered an internship with Microsoft at one point though.

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/mcy/3799961069.html

Looks pretty good but he says he's firm… I would like to get him down $600-$800.

JohnnyBravo · May 13th, 2013, 08:05 AM

Congrats on the pass... I got a -9 my first time, a few more mistakes and I would have repeated to, not everyone is a first time go. Best of luck on your search!

Chuffmonkey · May 13th, 2013, 08:13 AM

Welcome Nadir from a fellow Sandy rider. I just (last week) sold my 250, but it was an '11 and it went for over $3K. There's an '09 on KSL right now for $3K:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...ninja&ad_cid=3

and an '06 for $2K.

I'm not sure what you're basing your newgen pricing on, but in SLC they rarely come up for much less than $3K - I did see a '10 a couple of weeks ago for $2800 when I was trying to price my own, but I believe it may have been dropped. I also saw one for around $2k, but it was on a salvage title.

Good luck with the hunt

koma22 · May 13th, 2013, 08:56 AM

Congrats on passing and welcome!

I was looking for a used 250 and ended up buying a new one on closeout.. was only $500 more and came with a 2-year warranty, figured it mdae sense.

psykick5 · May 13th, 2013, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuffmonkey

Welcome Nadir from a fellow Sandy rider. I just (last week) sold my 250, but it was an '11 and it went for over $3K. There's an '09 on KSL right now for $3K:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...ninja&ad_cid=3

and an '06 for $2K.

I'm not sure what you're basing your newgen pricing on, but in SLC they rarely come up for much less than $3K - I did see a '10 a couple of weeks ago for $2800 when I was trying to price my own, but I believe it may have been dropped. I also saw one for around $2k, but it was on a salvage title.

Good luck with the hunt

I was looking at that one but it's in Orem

I'd like to get that one for $2400-2600 if I could get it up here.

I dunno what I'm really basing on but it's a used bike that was $4000 new it can't be worth only 25% less than new...

Jiggles · May 13th, 2013, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykick5

I was looking at that one but it's in Orem

I'd like to get that one for $2400-2600 if I could get it up here.

I dunno what I'm really basing on but it's a used bike that was $4000 new it can't be worth only 25% less than new...

Why can't it?

NathanUc · May 13th, 2013, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykick5

Looks pretty good but he says he's firm… I would like to get him down $600-$800.

Worth a shot. I think for a newgen around $3,000 is fair with full service records. That one seems like a well taken care of bike (AND IT'S RED!) so he might not budge on the price.

psykick5 · May 13th, 2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanUc

Worth a shot. I think for a newgen around $3,000 is fair with full service records. That one seems like a well taken care of bike (AND IT'S RED!) so he might not budge on the price.

Ehh I'm not really looking to spend that much :/ I still need some extra money for more gear

Motofool · May 13th, 2013, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykick5

.........It makes me feel a tad bit like a loser that it took me two tries, but oh well.

It's great to be here.

It's great to have you here, Nadir !!!

..........fact for which you are not the loser you believe you are.

P.S. - Leave something for your enemies to talk about you

tar wheels · May 14th, 2013, 12:34 PM

Congrats on passing! I just passed mine a week ago. A third of our class did not. A girl I work with also rides, and half of her class failed to pass the first time, so no worries. Looks like you kicked its ass the second time around.

RedPepper64 · May 14th, 2013, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykick5

I was looking at that one but it's in Orem

I'd like to get that one for $2400-2600 if I could get it up here.

I dunno what I'm really basing on but it's a used bike that was $4000 new it can't be worth only 25% less than new...

$3k is the rough average here in WA for the 250's. It's silly but most of them are being sold with 1-3k miles on them. They are beginner bikes for a lot of people who just want to upgrade right away.

Also, the new bikes usually wind up with about $700-$1000 extra tacked on to the "price" to get the out-the-door cost.

psykick5 · May 14th, 2013, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedPepper64

$3k is the rough average here in WA for the 250's. It's silly but most of them are being sold with 1-3k miles on them. They are beginner bikes for a lot of people who just want to upgrade right away.

Also, the new bikes usually wind up with about $700-$1000 extra tacked on to the "price" to get the out-the-door cost.

I'm really thinking about getting it for a couple hundred less. I don't think I'd lose any money on it if I get it and sell it once I'm ready to upgrade in a season or two (as long as I don't damage it)

RedPepper64 · May 14th, 2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykick5

I'm really thinking about getting it for a couple hundred less. I don't think I'd lose any money on it if I get it and sell it once I'm ready to upgrade in a season or two (as long as I don't damage it)

I've found that the newgens (regardless of year) are all roughly $3k. I got mine two years ago for $3200 and I could just as easily sell it for the same. Although I did the ecotrons kit and aftermarket exhaust so I would up it a bit from that. Definitely doesn't hurt to save some dollars!

psykick5 · May 14th, 2013, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedPepper64

I've found that the newgens (regardless of year) are all roughly $3k. I got mine two years ago for $3200 and I could just as easily sell it for the same. Although I did the ecotrons kit and aftermarket exhaust so I would up it a bit from that. Definitely doesn't hurt to save some dollars!

Eek.

Oh well just gotta pony up some cash, then.

psykick5 · May 14th, 2013, 07:32 PM

That guy with the $3100 one is out of state until the 26th :'(

b.miller123 · May 14th, 2013, 09:27 PM

There was a dealer up here with new 2012 250's going for $3400.

Don't worry about taking two times to pass it. I let mine lapse and had to retake it after riding for about 8 years. Still took two tries on my R1.

lc86 · May 14th, 2013, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psykick5

I was looking at that one but it's in Orem

I'd like to get that one for $2400-2600 if I could get it up here.

I dunno what I'm really basing on but it's a used bike that was $4000 new it can't be worth only 25% less than new...

If you find a good deal somewhere near Orem and need help getting it up there I can probably help you. I just moved to Provo and I have a Joe Hauler which makes it easy to transport a bike. I just brought mine here from Maryland no problems.

As for the prices I can't really say what would be fair. I mean I have a 2010 SE and I wouldn't let it go for less than 3K because it wouldn't be worth it to me. I love the bike and even if I was going to get another one if someone were to offer me somewhere closer to 2K I would just keep it as a second bike even if I didn't plan on riding it.

It also doesn't necessarily matter what you think its worth, its what the market will pay. I had a guy willing to pay me 4500 for mine last year before I moved to Maryland (I was in CA at the time) because he loved it so much (I only payed 4200 for it OTD, but lots of fun mods). I would have sold it to him but I decided to keep it because I know this bike inside and out (I've stripped her Nekkid multiple times and even converted her to EFI once, removed the airbox once, and installed a new exhaust once) and I got a Joe Hauler (I never knew they existed, I didn't want to part with the bike and when I got that there was no reason to.)

Anyways, now that riding season has begun you will need to find a desperate seller to get a price that good, but it is possible if you are patient enough. Like I said though, if you find a good deal down here near the Provo area and are worried about getting it up there hit me up and I can probably help you. I can also go to look at a bike with you if need it to make sure that they aren't lying about dropping it (it is usually easy to tell) and whether or not they have been taking care of it (like when the chain has never been maintained

)

Jiggles · May 15th, 2013, 12:57 AM

You spelled psychic wrong

psykick5 · May 15th, 2013, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lc86

If you find a good deal somewhere near Orem and need help getting it up there I can probably help you. I just moved to Provo and I have a Joe Hauler which makes it easy to transport a bike. I just brought mine here from Maryland no problems.

As for the prices I can't really say what would be fair. I mean I have a 2010 SE and I wouldn't let it go for less than 3K because it wouldn't be worth it to me. I love the bike and even if I was going to get another one if someone were to offer me somewhere closer to 2K I would just keep it as a second bike even if I didn't plan on riding it.

It also doesn't necessarily matter what you think its worth, its what the market will pay. I had a guy willing to pay me 4500 for mine last year before I moved to Maryland (I was in CA at the time) because he loved it so much (I only payed 4200 for it OTD, but lots of fun mods). I would have sold it to him but I decided to keep it because I know this bike inside and out (I've stripped her Nekkid multiple times and even converted her to EFI once, removed the airbox once, and installed a new exhaust once) and I got a Joe Hauler (I never knew they existed, I didn't want to part with the bike and when I got that there was no reason to.)

Anyways, now that riding season has begun you will need to find a desperate seller to get a price that good, but it is possible if you are patient enough. Like I said though, if you find a good deal down here near the Provo area and are worried about getting it up there hit me up and I can probably help you. I can also go to look at a bike with you if need it to make sure that they aren't lying about dropping it (it is usually easy to tell) and whether or not they have been taking care of it (like when the chain has never been maintained

)

Hey thanks. There are a couple in Orem but I'd really like to stay in SL for this. Thanks for the advice, though. I'll keep it in mind but I'll still try to haggle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

You spelled psychic wrong

I know.

psykick5 · May 17th, 2013, 08:16 PM

I bought the red 250R in Draper. Amazing bike and a great guy selling it.

Chuffmonkey · May 18th, 2013, 05:22 AM

Congrats. Enjoy riding it

May 12th, 2013, 09:35 PM	#1
psykick5 ninjette.org member Name: Nadir Location: Sandy, Utah (SLC Metro) Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 15	Only took me two tries to pass my MSF Haha well hey guys, It makes me feel a tad bit like a loser that it took me two tries, but oh well. The first time I failed the test with 28 pts (20 to pass) because I anticipated the brake trap. The second time I took it, though, I got a perfect score. Progress, I guess. Now the search begins for a Ninja 250… everyone around here wants way too much money for them… it's dumb. It's great to be here. Thanks.

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koma22 ninjette.org member Name: M Location: Ontario Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 17	Congrats on passing and welcome! I was looking for a used 250 and ended up buying a new one on closeout.. was only $500 more and came with a 2-year warranty, figured it mdae sense.

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tar wheels ninjette.org member Name: Scott Location: the district Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2008 EX250J8F Posts: 40	Congrats on passing! I just passed mine a week ago. A third of our class did not. A girl I work with also rides, and half of her class failed to pass the first time, so no worries. Looks like you kicked its ass the second time around.

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b.miller123 ninjette.org member Name: Brett Location: Everett, WA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1998 Ninja 250 2007 Yamaha R6 2003 Honda RC51... sold :( Posts: 205	There was a dealer up here with new 2012 250's going for $3400. Don't worry about taking two times to pass it. I let mine lapse and had to retake it after riding for about 8 years. Still took two tries on my R1.

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