May 25th, 2013, 04:25 AM | #1 |
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Who makes the quietest helmets?
Just like the title says.
What are the quietest helmets, and which one in the sub 300 dollar range are pretty quiet? |
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May 25th, 2013, 06:44 AM | #3 | |
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May 25th, 2013, 06:59 AM | #4 |
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Every helmet will get louder with use, my Shark RSI was very quiet when I got it, 3 years of daily use later & 60 mph is like standing behind a F15 on takeoff.
Earplugs are the way to go. |
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May 25th, 2013, 07:18 AM | #5 |
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+1 for ear plugs. Especially for riding long distances. Most helmets are a compromise between air flow and wind noise.
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May 25th, 2013, 09:11 AM | #6 |
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im gonna have to go with earplugs aswell. I have 2 Icon Airmadas, 2shoeis and they were all quiet at one point. Recently started using earplugs (last week), no particular brand, they seem like some ****** construction type earplugs, fluorescent buds with a fluorescent blue string connecting them, but they work extremely well.
if you got a Schuberth + earplugs, you'd be in heaven. |
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May 25th, 2013, 11:13 AM | #8 |
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May 25th, 2013, 02:52 PM | #9 |
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I do wear earplugs. Wind noise still gets annoying.
I'm just wondering for the future, whenever I buy my next one. |
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May 25th, 2013, 02:55 PM | #10 |
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Typically this is because the padding compresses, try washing the padding, this helps i've found.
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May 25th, 2013, 02:57 PM | #11 |
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I found it too quiet, since we have a very low speed limit and cars and smaller and quieter than the us, it became impossible to hear traffic at junctions and behind me, so I stick to just the helmet, keep the rpm's below 6k and it's lovely.
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May 25th, 2013, 04:02 PM | #12 |
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Pretty subjective. Usually the ones that vent really well consequently have more airflow and wind noise within the helmet.
You could use this website who have ratings amongst various brands. http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...le-helmets.htm Closing vents, chin curtains, helmets with a good seal against it's eyeport gasket help. The Scorpion EXO-R410 has a nice design where shield hinge is spring loaded so when you close it, the hinge moves back, sucking down the shield against the gasket. It's about $160ish, and SNELL rated... I thought it was pretty quiet, didn't vent as well as my AGV K3 which is louder. My Shoei RF-1000 is between the two. |
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May 25th, 2013, 05:23 PM | #13 |
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Another thing to try is use new earplugs. I find that the foam ones last a certain number of uses before it all gets louder. Your other option is to use the silicone ones. Those tend to last longer. Experiment with different brands. I find the industrial ones with pink and yellow colored foam works best for me.
As for helmet, not a whole lot you can do if it was once quiet but isn't anymore. Just normal wear and tear. Helmet protects your head. Earplugs protect your ears. Im not surprised they can't do double duty.
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May 25th, 2013, 11:55 PM | #14 |
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BTW, when I say quiet helmet I don't mean the helmet that blocks out the most noise, I more mean the one that creates the least wind noise.
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May 26th, 2013, 01:37 AM | #15 |
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My Scorpion whistles pretty fiercely, that's all I can say.
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May 26th, 2013, 06:53 AM | #16 |
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I have that horrible whistling noise in my gm68s but recently added an intercom system with headphones that push against my ears (with ear plugs in) and noticed that the headphones reduced all of the whistleing noise! Surprised the hell outta me but I suppose the whistlening noise came from the air hitting the outer portion of my ear lobe. So hopefully that might help with an idea.
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May 26th, 2013, 12:43 PM | #17 |
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Schuberth are supposed to be very quiet, due in large part to the massive neck roll they've got. Much of the noise you get is wind interacting with the lower edge of the helmet.
I tried one on a few days ago and I can see why it's that way… the helmet really hugs your neck. But they cost a ton. Premium helmet, premium performance. It's my anniversary so I might get one… I've asked for money towards high-end gear. Anything under 300, just use earplugs. Simpler. I recommend trying different kinds to see which ones suit you. Foam are cheap and proven effective. Having tried foam, permanently molded custom (from a kit I got at Wally World), the silicone rubber "cristmas tree" ones and various earbuds, for straight earplugs I like the wax ones that come in eight-packs best… They fill your ear (both canal and surface) really well and are super comfy, with no pressure points at all. Basically you're making the equivalent of a custom-made plug every time you use one.
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May 26th, 2013, 12:58 PM | #18 |
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They all seem pretty quiet in the store.. lol
Wind noise will be different for each rider on each bike. Depending on their size and how the bike deflects wind off the screen. I could tell you that my helmet is very quiet. Then hand it to a guy 2 inches tall than me, put him on my bike, and my wind screen could direct the air straight into a vent and cause a whistle. Found this out when a switched to a double bubble on my R6.
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There's no universal measure from
loud <------> moderate <------> quiet when it comes to helmets. Yes, a pricier helmet may in general be somewhat quieter than most inexpensive lids, but the factors differ. First, it needs to fit your head well. If there is less open space in all directions, there's less turbulence for the air that is vented through the helmet. The outside needs to be aerodynamic for the riding position. A track-based helmet that is meant to be chin on the tank is different than a touring helmet where a rider is sitting almost straight up and down. The amount of air that is let in from the neck area is a large factor. Some lids like Arai and Shoei often include an optional part that goes under the chin to close up some of that open space; this helps quiet them down a good bit. And finally, the closure for the visor makes a difference. Some lids have a way to lock the visor in place, which causes a seal that is great to block out noise at high speeds. A helmet that is quiet for one person, may be even quieter for another, or might seem loud for another if they have different parameters and use cases. All that said, I've never owned a helmet that is quiet enough for no earplugs at highway speeds for more than a few minutes. Another data point is to watch any racer in any series on the planet. They have custom fit helmets that are made to be as aerodynamic as possible, and fit as tight and snug as possible, yet virtually every single one uses earplugs in addition to make the wind noise bearable at speed.
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May 27th, 2013, 07:14 AM | #22 | |
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The chart below describes plugs designed for musicians that do not cut the highs as much, compared to your standard foam plugs. The problem I encountered with the custom-molded plugs (the silicone rubber kit that you can buy in sporting goods stores… you mold them to your ears by sticking the stuff in there and they set up permanently after 15 minutes) is that when you're wearing your helmet it pushes on your ear and changes the shape of your ear canal. Therefore the seal (remember that the plugs are molded when your ear is relaxed) breaks and they're not as effective as when you're not wearing your lid. I also tried a second time, doing the procedure with my helmet on, but the results were still not as good as I had hoped they would be. Maybe the expensive "professionally fitted" ones are better… I don't know because I believe I can jam some putty in my own ear as well as any professional. This is why I like the wax ones. Like the custom molded ones they contour to your anatomy perfectly but they're not rigid. When things move around they flow with it.
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May 27th, 2013, 10:38 AM | #24 |
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I find it interesting... you've been riding for how long? Now all of sudden this is a problem?
I guess you have two options then: or Next thread: I got a quiet helmet and taped all the vents or used silicone to block all the wind noise coming in and out of it, now I'm hot, what helmet should I get? |
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One of these days I'll need a new helmet. I do enough riding that I think I'd prefer a quieter helmet to one that has other benefits, and I can't test how noisy a helmet is in a store, so I ask the question. Is that a bad thing? |
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May 27th, 2013, 11:34 AM | #26 |
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The question you're asking goes hand in hand with other variables (wind noise, quietness, vents, heat, air flow, cooling, etc). It's a compromise. Many people have already suggested things, yet you don't seem to be liking those answers. So, one has to ask what the point of the thread is, if you keep deflecting people's advice and or opinions, which you asked for? If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions.
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Earplugs make the wind noise go away, but I can still hear everything around me. I can still hear cars, horns, sirens, pedestrians yelling, etc. I've never had any issue with feeling bottled up or deaf. YMMV, but I really like earplugs. |
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Who cares. Just wear some freakin earplugs.
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May 27th, 2013, 09:29 PM | #31 |
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If ear plugs arent doing it for you... it sounds like youre doing it wrong. What ear plugs do you use? What are they specifically made for? Are they made to block all sounds or some frequencies more than others?
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If your helmet is really noisy, earplugs will still just cut down on the noise. ~32dB of reduction is pretty normal for earplugs, but it's just noise reduction, not outright elimination.
Best way to eliminate wind noise completely is apply a power drill to your eardrums and just remove them completely But seriously. I've ridden in Shoei, Arai, Bell, Scorpion, Shark and recently Schuberth. The first three were all good, if pricey, but had various things I didn't like, from weight, to whistles, to 9 different air vents to manage, or were just plain loud. I got used to a bit of noise from the Shark RaceR, but it was way less than either of my Scorpion Exo-700, despite the fact the Shark is designed for a naked bike (aerodynamics of the helmet get screwy with fairings redirecting the wind). The Schuberth C3 beats them all, hands down for me, and the C3 Pro is even quieter. With Earplugs and the C3, I can still hear traffic, but it's the level of background noise. Emergency vehicles are really easy to hear due to the sheer intensity of their sirens and the fact I'm not having to actively filter out tons of wind noise from what I'm hearing. The C3 does whistle just a smidge for me, but even with that it's the quietest. I think it's partly the super-large neck roll, as mentioned previously, combined with the large bit under the jaw, that can be that big only due to the fact it's a modular helmet. I will say, the C3 and C3Pro are the only two modular's I've worn for any length of time, so it might be more than just Schuberth, but I've been impressed. It's kinda egg-shaped though; very round and smooth. So if you like funky spoilers, and hard angles, probably not your helmet.
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+1 for earplugs.
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It was my anniversary last weekend and I asked for gear-upgrade money. I don't actually need anything but it was an opportunity to buy something I wouldn't have ordered for myself due to cost.
Neon-yellow Schuberth S2 OTW. My still-good EXO-700 will become a backup. From what I understand they've changed the shape to be a bit more elongated (intermediate oval) vs. the rounder original C3. Before ordering I did a little road trip to some not-so-nearby Schuberth dealers and got to try on both the S2 and the C3 pro. They fit the same.
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