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July 22nd, 2009, 03:23 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Pittsburgh
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, Cbr 600RR Cbr600F4i Posts: 75
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Market for 250s shot?
Hey guys,
Is anyone else noticing this? a year ago the 08+ 250 was a huge hit. Now its so hard to get rid of one. Normally i would post my bike up and i would instantly get a million emails inquiring. So far i got 1 guy that wants to trade me a computer and a shot gun for my bike..... anyone else having problems like this? What do you think is a fair price for a 2009 250r with 900 miles on the clock? thanks |
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July 22nd, 2009, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.
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 It's really geographically market driven, so what are the other bikes in your area going for? |
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:08 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Dom
Location: oswego ny
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 ninja 250r Posts: 46
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ya i noticed this too - when i bought my 09 the 08s were still hard to get and over 09 msrp, now theres a lot for sale for less than $3000
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:25 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Ed
Location: Washington DC
Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 157
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I don't think it is the bike. I think it is the economy.
I just dropped off mine for a little tweaking and the shop had a full floor of new models. Not one was a 250 and only one ZR-6. The repair shop was stuffed to the gills with repaired ones that people hadn't picked up apparently because they couldn't pay. I also think that you are seeing quite a few people buy new right now, if they can. It is not unlike the car market where you can get better deals new than used, if you have access to the funds. A Core2 Duo and a Mossberg doesn't sound so bad.
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:38 PM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: Dan
Location: Chicago, il....
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Suzuki GSX-R750 Posts: 378
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Yea I noticed the same thing...I posted mine on craigslist, just to see what I can get for it, and if the price was right, I would have sold it...But I only got 1 call..And the guy was just saying how bad ass it looked with all the mods I did to it, no offer, he musta been bored....But I have an opportunity to trade it for a 07 gsxr750 with 3000 miles on it, plus 3k.....Any suggestions?..I want to go faster!!! thats for sure....
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:48 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Neema
Location: San Jose, CA
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Ninja 250 Posts: 66
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:53 PM
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two wheel addict
Name: Kenneth
Location: Simpsonville, SC
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 94 xlh 883, 1984 kawi gpz money pit Posts: 556
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Not to mention your going to be spending more money on tires and other maintenance items with the bigger bike. But hey if you feel like you really want to upgrade thats not too bad of a deal. |
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:57 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Tim
Location: NE Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 2004 Ninja 250 and 2008 VTX 1300 Posts: 47
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Gas prices were also a huge factor last year too. I bet it would be amazing to know just how many bikes and scooters that were bought last summer have just sat in garages this summer collecting dust.
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July 22nd, 2009, 04:58 PM
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The Sportisi Master
Name: Matt
Location: Chico
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.
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Yes it's shot. Too many sold, to many people upgrading, the price is artificially low on the used bikes now because of it. Kawi's sales were amazing last year but I bet this year its not as big. The bikes are still popular but now you can almost open a cracker jacks box and find one for cheap.
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July 22nd, 2009, 07:22 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Greg
Location: Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.
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my dealer had sold out and now has 2 due to cancellations. Economy, financing, insurance all leading to slow sales. Dealer has 3 ZX10 on the floor, 2008 green, 2009g/w/b, and 2009 orange. Save $2K on 2009, and about 2500 on 2008 green. Even though liter bikes are a less demand item, they were selling fast as they hit the showroom floor this time last year.
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July 22nd, 2009, 07:32 PM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: Nick
Location: Sacramento, California.
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 379
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trade for the shotgun and pc, then use the shotgun to take the bike back.
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July 22nd, 2009, 07:42 PM
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ninjette.org sage
Name: Tin
Location: NJ
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903
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July 22nd, 2009, 07:47 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Greg
Location: Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.
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July 22nd, 2009, 08:28 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Pittsburgh
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, Cbr 600RR Cbr600F4i Posts: 75
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I actually thought about that. But then i figured i might just show up get shot in the face and then he rides off with my bike.....
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July 22nd, 2009, 08:53 PM
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Cat herder
Name: Gort
Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot.
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I don't have a bike yet, but I'm following the ads.
It is routine to see people asking far, far more than the KBB or NADA retail prices. It is rare to see an 08 with an asking price below original MSRP. I have yet to see a bike with an asking price less than $500 over what the price guides say it should sell for. I've seen guys asking way MORE than MSRP for used bikes (like $4500). I think the real story is that owners are simply expecting too much. An item is worth precisely what the market will pay, and not a penny more no matter how much the owner might think it's worth. Lower the price to a level at which someone will buy it, and it'll sell in a day. And that's all there is to it. The market isn't dead. It's simply a case of expectations not aligning with reality. |
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July 22nd, 2009, 10:31 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Chanh
Location: Kent,WA
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29
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ditto on wut he said! /\
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July 22nd, 2009, 10:48 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Pittsburgh
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, Cbr 600RR Cbr600F4i Posts: 75
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MSRP is 4000 with taxes fees and destination charges you are looking at over 5000+ out the door. Is my price really unfair? thanks |
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July 23rd, 2009, 03:46 AM
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Cat herder
Name: Gort
Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 6
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From what I've seen to date, that's plenty fair.
Though counting taxes and fees and such in the original "value" doesn't seem right to me. If you were buying a used car, would you think it right if the seller used all that stuff to make it seem like his price were more reasonable? I certainly wouldn't. Why should a bike be any different? |
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July 23rd, 2009, 04:46 AM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Pittsburgh
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, Cbr 600RR Cbr600F4i Posts: 75
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I completely agree. I figure is going to go lower then my asking price anyways just making a little room for bargaining.
I would also like to point out though most cars on the market will not sell MSRP even from dealer. |
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July 23rd, 2009, 10:32 AM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Greg
Location: Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.
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July 23rd, 2009, 12:08 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Kevin
Location: MI
Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, 2007 Aprilia SR50R scooter Posts: 79
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Heck, I have been looking at snowmobiles for the last month already hoping I can find a nice one "for cheap" in this crappy economy. And another thing, people never pay extra for mods - sellers always think their bike is worth more because they upgraded this or that, but the majority of buyers don't care. You're always better off putting the bike back to stock and selling stuff like exhausts and gear separately - if you want to maximize your return. Unless you need the money now, you may want to just ride out the rest of the year with it and try selling again next spring. You may as well keep it listed on CL as there's no cost to do so - you may get lucky and find someone that just has to have your bike int he middle of winter. 
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July 23rd, 2009, 03:24 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
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Hmmm... that is too bad. At least I was planning on keeping mine, even if I upgraded (incase I still liked it better). What I can't find is the 650r. They are a myth I think. Dealer has plenty of ZX6r's, a couple 250r's (although not last year), then some other brands.
They claim they get what they get (like they don't have a say in the orders), don't know if that is true, but that is what they say. |
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July 23rd, 2009, 08:18 PM
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ninjette.org newbie
Name: Brendon
Location: Ridgeley
Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprillia Sr50 Posts: 7
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I'm interested
Could you send me some pictures and info on the bike? I live about 2 hrs from Pittsburgh and I'am interested in a 250.
Thanks, Brendon kienhoferb@yahoo.com |
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July 23rd, 2009, 08:36 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
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http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/pro...?scid=6&id=359 Edit: Sorry, I really don't mean to be rude (we aren't about rude here at ninjette.org), your question just struck me as very odd, so perhaps I didn't catch the full meaning of your quesiton... |
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July 23rd, 2009, 08:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.
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July 23rd, 2009, 08:51 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
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huh, "Kienhofer" & "kevins garage" both list that they have Aprillia Sr50's.... what are the odds?
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July 23rd, 2009, 08:59 PM
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ninjette.org newbie
Name: Brendon
Location: Ridgeley
Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprillia Sr50 Posts: 7
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I'm interested
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July 23rd, 2009, 09:00 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: addy126
Location: Tx
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.
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Was at my dealer this afternoon. They have huge inventory on floor of Kawi's and Suzuki's. All colors for the N-250 (2009) available and the N-650's (2009) all colors available off the floor. I was shocked.. couldnt find a one last year.... this year you walk in and there they are.
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July 23rd, 2009, 09:28 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.
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here's a link to his for sale ad on this site.. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24940 |
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July 23rd, 2009, 09:41 PM
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ninjette.org newbie
Name: Brendon
Location: Ridgeley
Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprillia Sr50 Posts: 7
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July 23rd, 2009, 10:21 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Kim
Location: mundo de ensueño
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.
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And if that doesn't work out for you, Hillbilly in Princeton still has 2 new gens and an '07 on the floor - Reggie will cut you a great deal I'm sure...
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July 25th, 2009, 06:57 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Kevin
Location: MI
Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, 2007 Aprilia SR50R scooter Posts: 79
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October 24th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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ninjette.org member
Name: Chris
Location: Minnesota
Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Yamaha YZF R1 Posts: 17
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October 24th, 2009, 05:49 PM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: Dan
Location: Chicago, il....
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Suzuki GSX-R750 Posts: 378
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I bought my 09 ninja 250 absolutely mint with 180 miles for $3500 cash..
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October 24th, 2009, 08:45 PM
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CPT Falcon
Name: J.Emmett Turner
Location: Newnan, GA
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.
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October 25th, 2009, 01:59 AM
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ninjette.org newbie
Name: Ryan
Location: MA
Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250 Posts: 9
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I just bought my 09 Ninja blue, 225 miles, MINT, for 2700 with a helmet jacket and gloves and cover, but I had to drive three hours to get it, couldnt turn that deal down
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