August 14th, 2013, 04:51 AM | #41 | |
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It adds up fast mang!! You can do track days for cheap, but the first one is the kicker because of what you're buying. I think this is what alex.s was mentioning. After you've done 4-5 without buying new sh!t every time, the average cost starts coming way down. But if you just do one, you'll want to look into borrowing gear and splitting the costs of logistics. |
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August 14th, 2013, 05:03 AM | #42 | |
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Not sure about the fees, best to get with someone who as been there with the org your going with. But my gut is telling me the club membership is for the racers. Call em to find out for sure.
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August 14th, 2013, 05:33 AM | #43 |
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guess i wouldnt mind one of them secksy pics draggin a knee
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August 14th, 2013, 05:35 AM | #44 | |
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Used 1 piece suits commonly go on sale for $100-$200 Another ninjette user just posted he got NEW name brand race boots for $65 bucks I got my gauntlets for $95 NEW, they can go for around $50 used And you should already have a lid For the new track rider, getting the gear required can be/is more expensive than the track event. Once you have it, it's yours and you don't have to buy it again. Rental is always an option too but meh. Even after you have all your 1-time expenses taken care of. (gear, tools, ezup, chairs, coolers, bla bla bla) Still don't change the fact that alot of tracks charge $50-$200 just to register for the event. I am no princess but do like to have some basics to fully enjoy the day. Like a good nights sleep, brush teeth, ect.... So how do you Cali guys (anyone else) get away with going to the track for less than anywhere near $300 bones? What is the special secret? I mean really? Here are my actual bare mim. expenses assuming I have everything ahead of time. $165 MCRA track day registration fee @ Putnam Park (Mid-Ohio is even more expensive) $50-$100 trip is 186 miles each way @ 16mpg I could ride share but still looking at some dollars here $0 Food from home $0 Sleep in car $15 fill up bike Solo Total = $280 Rideshare Total = $230 What am I doing wrong?
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August 14th, 2013, 06:09 AM | #45 |
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I do cornerwork or buy credits so my trackdays are usually $0 to $100. The last track day that took place this past weekend was 70 dollars. Basically an open track day.
Only thing I have to worry about getting is gas for the truck and bike and ice for the cooler. At most, I'm usually looking at $150 if my truck was almost empty on gas.
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August 14th, 2013, 06:14 AM | #46 |
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I have inquired about those 2 options, not available to me on tracks that are remotely close to me. Mid-Ohio offers volume discounts on days (buy 4 or more) but that is hard for poor folk like me.
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August 14th, 2013, 07:06 AM | #47 |
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How many track orgs do you have running out in your neck of the woods?
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August 14th, 2013, 11:52 AM | #48 |
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adouglas, I want to say I recall you living somewhere in the Northeast? So, if I remember correctly then I agree with CC Cowboy. There are several track organizations that run New Hampshire motor Speedway. You can look at Penguin Road racing school, tony's track days, fishtail riding school and boston moto.
I have had personal experience with Penguin and Tony's Track days. Simply put, you can't go wrong with either one but if you have specific questions I would be happy to answer. Some things to consider: Penguin rents EVERYTHING! Right down to the bike (Ducati only).If you don't want to fork over the cash for gear just to try out a track day, I would recommend going with them. The what and how much for what you need to rent is right on their web site. Otherwise, if rental gear is necessary, then I think seacoast motorsports in Derry, NH has rentals. Might be about an hour south of Loudon. Using the garages is free for their track days as well as overnight camping (or at least it was last year). So you won't need an e-z up. NHMS serves breakfast and Penguin has a thing on their website where you can signup for lunch. Outlets are available in the garages. There is grass areas for tents. If you have an SUV like me though, I fold down all of the seats and put an air mattress back there. Typically, I don't bring lunch but snack on energy/power bars throughout the day. No need for a grill, and all the stuff that goes with it. A track day from any one of those organizations will run you between $225 and $250. All of the other details have been mentioned. Still though, all the cost that is associated with it - It's worth it.
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August 14th, 2013, 11:55 AM | #49 |
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At least 4-6 different orgs within 8 hours drive.
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August 14th, 2013, 01:50 PM | #50 |
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My husband won a 'free track day' and we attended this weekend to Summit Point in West Virginia. We have never done track before and had no one to ask about what to do or expect. It was definitely an eye opener for us.
Since the track was over an hour away and check-in was at 7 am, we spent the night in town and arrived the night before. The room & dinner cost almost $400. We don't have a trailer so he rode his bike (zx14) and I drove my car. When we arrived at the track, there were campers, RVs and trailers everywhere. We did not feel like we fit in. The nice part was anyone we spoke to were very friendly and helpful. I believe a regular track session is about $300. We had to pay the $25 registration fee when we got there. Now, prior to going to WV, he had his bike serviced and new tires put on (which he needed anyway) and that cost almost $700. Prior to track day he also picked up a leather 2-piece suit. I believe that cost him about $400-500 dollars (you can rent one there for $75 with a $300 deposit.) So yeah, our 'free track day' cost us almost $2k. We didn't stay for all the sessions. He only did 2 sessions. He decided it wasn't his thing and at least he experienced it but has no desire to do it again.
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August 14th, 2013, 01:55 PM | #51 |
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My first trackday cost me around 15k and counting.
It doesn't stop after one
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August 14th, 2013, 03:20 PM | #52 | |
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Haha! I do the same--check off items off my list every time I'm head to the track. A good thing to do especially when you get up there in age and have a hard time remembering what you just remembered to do. LOL! Sadness.
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August 14th, 2013, 03:50 PM | #54 |
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August 14th, 2013, 04:01 PM | #57 |
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September 11th, 2013, 08:10 PM | #61 | |
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September 11th, 2013, 09:07 PM | #62 |
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State Farm.
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September 12th, 2013, 05:46 AM | #63 |
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I also use State Farm. Teri, did you sign the medical coverage wavier? Thing is, a lot of riders are so worried about bike coverage at the track, they totally forget about the medical aspect of insurance. While we never hope to have to use such coverage, to double up in that area can never hurt as long as it's affordable and you understand how it can apply and be used.
Before I started riding track, I had signed the wavier to lower the cost of my insurance. I have since re-elected to have the extra coverage, now that I know how it can apply when and if I need it. Teri is also spot on about the "instructional" aspect. To add my support in this area. When I spoke with State Farm about track riding, they were ready to say "Good luck, hope you win but we can't cover you". Instead is said, "You do realize this is an educational and training experience right"? Like Teri, I had to explain the School part of the Mid-Ohio School to them. After that discussion, we were looking for applicable policy discounts, NOT non coverage. YMMV, as insurance laws differ from state to state, so do your homework first. Also, throw all this out the window if your are in a sanctioned race event. How does it apply to this thread? It's an expense I wouldn't have had otherwise of riding track. Sure it would come in handy on the street too but it's the choice I made. ps. Since re-electing to take the extra coverage, I am covered for street and track days.
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September 12th, 2013, 05:49 AM | #64 |
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Also, State Farm can suck a big egg in KY, they do not offer a discount for taking the MSF. Sigh...
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September 12th, 2013, 06:42 AM | #66 |
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I follow the following ideas:
1)We have awesome health insurance. I'm covered for a doctor visit, no matter what I do. I just have to tell the insurance people that yes, this dummy was responsible for his own injuries and I don't wish to sue someone for causing me injury. I was the one piloting the bike, I'm the one that got injured, therefore I'm the one responsible. duh 2)The bike is a possession. It wasn't that expensive in the first place and I can always part out/replace it. Besides, I carry Liability and uninsured/underinsured motorist insurance, neither of those are going to come into play at the track unless I take another rider out, which isn't likely. Aka, my butt's covered and if I hit the pavement and I'm more worried about said butt than I am about the bike. Said butt is the important part anyway. EDIT: MSF was free for me because I was a minor, and I get a sweet discount on my insurance. After I got that and some safe rider discounts for 3 clean seasons, I was able to up my coverage for liability and U/U coverage with my savings. Thanks to Jiggles' thread on insurance, I decided upping my existing coverage was a good idea. ANOTHER EDIT: I guess a track day could potentially REALLY cost me my bike if I wreck badly. But if that happens, I'll just take some time off from riding, replace the parts with fun stuff, and turn it into a beater bike. I can live for a while without a motorcycle if needed. I'd be more concerned about injury/recovery than the state of my bike anyway. |
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September 12th, 2013, 06:49 AM | #67 |
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I dont know who you have for insurance andrew but i know with progressive they will not cover if i go down at the track. Ive talked to my insurance agent in detail about it. Progressives policy states
3. to any vehicle resulting from, or sustained during practice or preparation for: a. any pre-arranged or organized: (i) racing; (ii) stunting; (iii) speed or demolition contest or activity; or b. any riding activity conducted on a permanent or temporary racetrack, racecourse, or during any closed course event.. So even though it is not a race, it is a riding activity on a track. And its with an organization ( i will prob go through tonys track days since ive always heard great things about them) |
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September 12th, 2013, 06:55 AM | #68 |
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Jay beat me to it. I literally just looked at my policy and found the text he pasted above.
Teri did you get an additional insurance rider to cover you? I'm curious what your policy says under Exclusions. |
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September 12th, 2013, 07:04 AM | #69 | |
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I *think* the key was a safety oriented educational course that just happened to use a track as its practice area or something along those lines. I didn't get anything additional through State Farm. I'll have to look at the paperwork for the exact wording but I stated everything up front that I learned from Progressive's rules and had the agent call to verify coverage. I even said "This is what I do and where I do it, give me a plan that covers it." I'll probably go in tonight to check once again (I do this before every trackday) that I will be covered should I wreck. I'll probably look into adding medical as well.
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Cool. I suppose the upshot of the uncertainty of knowing if I can get insurance is that I started looking for a track bike for next season.
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September 12th, 2013, 09:29 AM | #72 | |
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To contribute to the cost section on a rough $$$ basis, for my husband and I both to track the day we run roughly a $600/day budget. Our first day was decidedly more expensive as we bought an EZ-Up and overdid it on the food/supplies. Our lunches are provided so we have to account for breakfast and snacks while stopping for dinner on the way home if we want.
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September 12th, 2013, 02:56 PM | #73 |
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Im on NESR just not very active. I want to buy the gear before commiting to anything (suit, gloves, etc). I dont want to rent that stuff.
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Also checked on the medical side, she said while I have it on my auto, they cannot offer it for the motorcycle. So, nope, don't have that coverage.
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September 13th, 2013, 03:46 PM | #76 |
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MSF classes here provide you with a bike. Advanced classes not much. Parking lot activites i think you may be able to get away with just saying you dropped it in a parking lot.
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You don't have to be rich
Trackday fee = $160
Transportation: I have a small pickup, a cheap ramp and straps. Track outlay = $0 Lodging: I have camping gear, tent, etc. Track outlay = $0 Bike prep: Water Wetter = $10, roll of blue masking tape = $8 Safety Gear: Joe Rocket Full leather zip-together = $150 (Craigslist) (I already owned alpinestars SMX-5 boots ~$225) Cooler full of gatorade/water (you will need this): $15-20 Food: come on, you needed to eat anyways! Gas to/from track (estimate) = $70 I used my stock tires. They lasted another 3k miles after 2 trackdays, about 7k miles total. You do not need special tires for your first trackday. So this is about $400 bucks, and of course most of this you'll reuse because you'll be addicted. The leather pants that go with my suit are awesome, well worth the $150 I paid for the suit. DO IT! |
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