February 7th, 2009, 10:32 PM | #41 |
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I would encourage everyone to support fellow forum members in whatever endeavour they happen to supply. That Richard is a good guy and a friend to boot, I would be not think twice in supporting him!
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February 7th, 2009, 11:34 PM | #42 |
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I want some of them there rearsets. I'm trying to hustle some spare change together to get either those or the clip ons.
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February 7th, 2009, 11:47 PM | #43 |
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Rearsets would probably be my next purchase.
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February 8th, 2009, 02:00 AM | #44 |
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I told you the last TWO times I was up you could take the ol' girl around and feel it with the clip-ons, but noooooooo. Now you're going to have to pony up $160+ on the notion that it SHOULD change the handling of your bike for the better
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February 8th, 2009, 02:05 AM | #45 |
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so, are the clipons worth it to you?
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February 8th, 2009, 02:13 AM | #46 |
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Oh it's night and day! The bike turns in when I simply THINK about it So yes I'd say so!
I dunno if you'll (kkim) notice AS much of a difference because I'm sure raising the forks made a large difference in itself. I did both at the same time (raised the forks AND installed the clip-ons) so for me it was a drastic change Has the rain settled down there yet or are you still just sitting on your bike and making "vroom vroom" noises and pretending like you're racing? |
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February 8th, 2009, 02:38 AM | #47 |
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um, I rode the bike to work yesterday and I'm still fiddling with it before I do a short write up with my impressions.
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February 8th, 2009, 04:09 AM | #48 |
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February 8th, 2009, 08:53 AM | #49 |
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Thanks all for the support & thanks KK for the good words.
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February 8th, 2009, 03:11 PM | #51 |
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February 9th, 2009, 08:12 PM | #52 |
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I rode the bike to work on Friday. I hated the new riding position. On the road, it felt too far forward and constantly bending over even at higher road speeds. In the twisties, the bike felt less coherent and did not seem to be as connected as it was before the install. Hard turns felt a bit better, but the bike didn't seem to be as well put together as stock.
Friday and Saturday was spent scratching my head and trying different things to make it work for me. First off, mounting it above the triple clamps will not work. The bars hit the front fairing. I then lowered the forks in the clamps so they were even with the tops of the triple clamps. That minute change seemed to help. it did raise the forks ever so slightly and it did feel as if the reach had been reduced. I also made sure the bars were adjusted to point as far back as possible. The setup allows you a few degrees of rotation and bringing it back as far as it could helped again in a very minute amount, but noticeable. The last thing I did was to adjust the bars in the clamps as far out as they can go. That brings the bar end farther back as they are mounted at an angle in the clamps. With all of these changes, I can sit on the bike and it feels a great deal more comfortable for me. The reach is still long, but it is tolerable. Better still, I now feel like a part of the bike instead of feeling like I was sitting on something totally foreign and uncomfortable. I've not ridden the bike yet with the adjustments. Some feedback on the bars themselves. In the twisties, I noticed when the cornering was extreme, the bike felt very good with the forward sitting position and the head over the tank positioning. If you intend to use the bike for high speed track work, this is a definite improvement over the stock setup. I will go as far to say that I imagaine combined with a set of rearsets at the track, the bike would feel superb. For a more street oriented bike or for shorter riders (I'm 5'7"), the bars might prove to be too much. I'll have to ride it and make a decision. For taller riders looking to "stretch" the bike a bit and gain some room, I think this is an excellent way to "open up" the bike if you don't mind the forward stance this requires. For me, I'm hoping the small adjustments have added up to more cohesive ride. I like the "attack" position the bars put you in for the twisties... I just didn't like the feel of them on the road. Lesson learned... even though it may not seem like it, small adjustments make big differences with this kit. Spend some time to set it up properly for you. They are adjustable... use that feature to custom fit it to your desired stance. Last futzed with by kkim; February 15th, 2009 at 05:43 PM. |
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February 9th, 2009, 08:31 PM | #53 |
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hmm...that's some interesting feedback. I'm glad I let you test them before I did.
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February 9th, 2009, 09:12 PM | #54 |
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Since you don't like the clip ons, Kelly, I'll be glad to take them from you so you never have to see them again. I'll pay for shipping.
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February 9th, 2009, 11:25 PM | #55 |
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kkim
I think you just have to get use to it. I ride road bikes (bicycles) and the position is almost the same. I'm also 5'7". |
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February 9th, 2009, 11:30 PM | #56 |
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yeah, perhaps.
I will ride it and try to get used to it, but I have no qualms of yanking it and going back to my previous setup if all else fails. |
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February 10th, 2009, 01:06 AM | #57 |
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February 10th, 2009, 11:32 AM | #58 |
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looking at the installation pix made it clear that this was going to be a substantial rider position change, and thought you might have issues with it. i was thinking that you'd be able to find a way to incorporate the clips and find a happy medium but it sounds like that won't be happening... the LAST thing i wanted was you to say chucking the clips and reverting to previous set up is no biggie...and was hoping you'd be stubborn and hard headed and keep those things on long enuff for me to keep up with ya for AT LEAST a mile while i chase your wind vortex up the dang hill...
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February 10th, 2009, 11:43 AM | #59 |
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lol... I'm not giving up on them, I've just not eliminated chucking them as an option, yet.
getting ready to take the bike out for some street riding, so we'll see if the fiddling has helped. If the weather holds, I should be riding it up to work this evening. Beautiful day, so far, but I see clouds forming up in the mountains above Kalaheo. No wind, too... that's a sure sign for heavy afternoon/evening showers up in Kokee. We proved with the drag race that our bikes both have about the same amount of power. I don't need something like clipons handicapping me so there's a blue bike up my butt! hmmm... maybe I shouldn't help you with the shims and tires. |
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February 10th, 2009, 11:51 AM | #60 |
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lol hope the weather holds up for ya...riding to work past couple of mornings keeping mr. jones away! duty calls...aloha
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February 10th, 2009, 03:34 PM | #61 |
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Sorry, Kuro... went for a short ride on the streets and the bike feels much better with the small changes, so I'm gonna keep them. Can't wait to see how they do in the twisties now.
Again, seemingly small changes in the handlebar positioning makes a big difference. Take the extra time to set them up so it feels the best for you. While test riding today, an unrelated (related?) problem cropped up. Maybe those of you who have clipons can comment in this thread? http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13288 |
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February 10th, 2009, 05:46 PM | #62 |
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Finally got to try the clip-ons at GMR(twisties). I definitely like em. Handles way better then the stock setup. You do lose comfort on hwys and city streets. Puts more weight on the wrist. Like I said before, it handles like a supersport. Now I just need rearsets. BTW, if anyone is curious about weight. Weight of each bar including bolts and barend is: Stock-750grams, Woodcraft-419grams.
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February 10th, 2009, 09:49 PM | #63 |
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Yay! Had it installed last night! I was having a little trouble with the right clip on. I couldn't get the break line to clear the gauge and the inner fender but I got it going. I accidentally twisted the whole thing with the switches and it snapped the nubs that fit the whole that I drilled on the bars. Although it is still snug and doesn't move, should I get a new one just incase?
The ride felt good for me. I am 5'7. I am stretched out more and it feels a little more responsive to me. I don't know if its just the angle but I think its making me ride a little faster on the corners. I'll post pics tomorrow, my bro took the camera. |
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February 10th, 2009, 09:56 PM | #64 |
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Make sure the housing won't rotate after the screws are tightened as it does contain the throttle. If you broke the locating pin and it still moves, you can wrap something like teflon tape around the handlebars where the housing clamps down to make it a bit thicker so it wont move.
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February 11th, 2009, 01:20 PM | #65 |
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Ordered mine from Richard about 15 minutes ago Darn you Kelly haha.
Anyway, you have to call him because his online ordering system is not functioning as it should right now. If anyone wants to inquire, here is his direct line: 406-425-3604 Fyi, they ship straight from Woodcraft. Racebikerentals.com doesn't have them on-hand. |
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February 11th, 2009, 01:41 PM | #66 |
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yeah, but his pricing is great and he's a good guy to support.
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February 11th, 2009, 01:48 PM | #67 |
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Thanks for the order, Christopher
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February 11th, 2009, 01:48 PM | #68 |
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KK, what do you need to buy? Just lemme know so I can get you a killer price and get it up on the site
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February 11th, 2009, 01:52 PM | #69 |
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... the CC is kinda' smokin right now, but thanks for the offer.
If you can figure out a way to get fresh poke' from Kauai to you in a day, lemme know. I can be your Kauai poke' connection. have fun, brah!! |
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February 11th, 2009, 02:09 PM | #70 |
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Don't I wish I could figure that out... just this morning I was thinking of looking into fares for Kauai to fix my cravings. Its getting bad
Alex - Do you mind if I link to the DIY articles on my product pages in the store? Would be a good resource for peeps, I'm thinking. |
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February 11th, 2009, 02:13 PM | #71 |
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If you can figure out a trip, let me know. You're always welcome here.
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February 11th, 2009, 02:38 PM | #72 |
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hey kkim,
i didn't pay it much attention, but when my tuner installed my clipons (woulda done it myself, but the bike was already in his shop) i think he actually machined off a bit of the backside of the mounts that hit against the triple tree so that they could come back more. they felt too far back to me like this, but i'm 6' tall and didn't give it much thought since i won't be able to get a good feel for it until i do some laps at the track. i'd get a pict for you, but i'm not going to see the bike again until next friday
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February 11th, 2009, 04:24 PM | #73 |
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Thank you, Broom!! I know what you're talking about and I'll give that some thought if I need to modify them further. At present they feel a lot more comfortable than originally set up, so I'll see if I can live with them this way. If not, it's a visit to Mr. Grinder.
mahalo for the idea. |
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February 11th, 2009, 04:42 PM | #74 |
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February 11th, 2009, 07:15 PM | #75 |
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Dom - welcome to the forums!
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February 11th, 2009, 10:53 PM | #76 |
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Thanks Noche Caliente! Here are the pics of the install.
New Grips!! Excuse the Phone Camera quality. |
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February 12th, 2009, 09:38 AM | #77 |
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hey guys... one more tip on installing clipons and controls. this is especially true on the track.
don't over tighten your clipons or controls on your bars. if and when you crash, you want your bars and controls to move when they hit something hard so that they don't break. obvioulsy you want them tight enough to not move easily, but if you hit it fairly hard with the palm of your hand you should be able to move it.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:13 AM | #78 |
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Thanks for that tip Jon. I will be installing mine next week.
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February 12th, 2009, 01:56 PM | #80 |
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mmm... I would be hesitant about grinding the triple, though from a strength perspective, I don't think it will affect it. But from an aesthetic and possible resale perspective, no.
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