July 28th, 2013, 08:59 PM | #41 |
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Got a full track weekend in with all of the new stuff on the 300, very pleased with the results! Compared to the first time out when I had the race-tech emulators in the forks, these Andreani full cartridge inserts are on a whole different level. Just did a few tweaks of the damping setup after the first session and then never touched a clicker again all weekend, it was pretty well spot-on. The chassis geometry was good with 15mm of fork tube above the triple, and 327mm eye-to-eye length on the Ohlins shock. The Pirelli SC1 race tires had great grip, and wore beautifully, with a full weekend on the tires they are hardly showing any wear at all. I took some video, I'll post it up after the files finish processing so I can put it on YouTube. Here's a pic of it on the track.
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July 28th, 2013, 09:15 PM | #42 |
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if I ever win the lottery I'm copying you... Cept mine will be green
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July 29th, 2013, 08:56 AM | #43 |
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Here's a couple laps of video aboard the 300. Motorsports Park Hastings is a really nice track, not super high-speed so it's fun for smaller bikes. Next time I'll have to tip the camera down a little more so the tach and speedo are visible, it would be interesting to check the speeds in some of the corners. The only one I paid attention to was Turn 3 which is the really fast right-hander, the fastest I could get was 80mph at the apex, I'd get to the top of 5th gear right before the turn, no brakes just downshift to 4th and right back on the gas. I tried not downshifting to carry more speed to the apex, but that's a no-go because the corner scrubs off speed and then it's way too low in the rev range and just dogs it coming out of the turn. I think the only way to go faster would be a really stiff tail-wind or a supercharger!
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July 29th, 2013, 12:13 PM | #44 |
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Looks good dood, hey, how much do you weigh? I'm gonna try cheating and using some of your settings to try to get a baseline at the track next weekend, even though we have different parts. I'm 6' 210. . .
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July 29th, 2013, 12:16 PM | #45 |
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I weigh 185 without gear, so about 200 in gear.
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July 29th, 2013, 01:19 PM | #46 |
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Not a good idea Joel. He's using cartridge forks and an Ohlins rear shock completely different from what you're using.
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July 29th, 2013, 02:10 PM | #47 |
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Thanx Walt, sack up and come to Bdub and you can help. Any reference point is beneficial to me at this point, and JJ's settings are helpful either way. . .
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July 29th, 2013, 02:15 PM | #48 |
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Great vid
How ya like the zero gravity windscreen?
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July 29th, 2013, 06:18 PM | #49 |
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It's ok, I wish it was a little taller and more rounded though, it's still hard to tuck behind. But there's really not much aerodynamic advantage to be had at only 85mph anyway. Riding with a couple of the 250 race bikes this weekend, they were all tucked in on the straight and I just sat up bolt upright and went by waving at them!
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July 29th, 2013, 06:43 PM | #50 |
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I'm still comparing windscreens. I like the color of the sportisi, don't think it throws up enough air though. So lookin at all the double bubbles. Haha you shoulda got that on vid. I bet they were like wtf, burn
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July 29th, 2013, 07:08 PM | #51 |
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I just ordered my Zero Gravity Clear Double Bubble today. I ordered it directly from Zero Gravity and they said they have plenty on the shelf so get your order in now.
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July 29th, 2013, 07:10 PM | #52 |
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Do I get some of your sponsorship discount???
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July 29th, 2013, 07:19 PM | #53 |
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I don't have a Zero Gravity sponsorship yet. I'm still working on that one.
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July 29th, 2013, 07:23 PM | #54 |
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Best of luck, I've heard good things about ZG, just haven't pulled the trigger. Dunno if I want colored or no. A little more air pocket wouldn't hurt though
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July 29th, 2013, 08:10 PM | #55 |
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Go with clear. Then it's useful on the street and the track.
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July 29th, 2013, 09:16 PM | #56 |
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Durn... They have great colors out. I'm not racin my street 300, might take it to some track days... Race hardcore??? Nope
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July 29th, 2013, 09:17 PM | #57 |
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Sorry for goin bandit on your thread
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July 30th, 2013, 04:14 PM | #58 | |
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July 30th, 2013, 07:21 PM | #59 | |
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July 30th, 2013, 08:06 PM | #60 |
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In Omaha, Nebraska, our home tracks here are Mid-America Motorplex and Motorsports Park Hastings, but we get around the region quite a bit to other tracks, normally High Plains, Heartland Park, Putnam Park, and occasionally Hallett, Road America and others. Haven't been to RA in a couple years now, but not sure I'd want to run the 300 there, it's such a fast track, I'd probably take the Panigale out for that one! We'll be out at Putnam Park on the Monday after the MotoGP in Indy in a few weeks.
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July 30th, 2013, 08:41 PM | #61 |
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I've already offered to help you get it dialed in. I still feel the best way is to work with Tige and James though since they did your suspension.
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July 31st, 2013, 08:58 PM | #65 |
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DO ET! Come ride with us on the 10th, better yet... race with us on the 11th.
600 record is a 1:13 the current 250 record is a low 1:27 and I don't expect that to last much longer. 3 riders are known to put down those kinda times and one of them just commented on this thread.
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I feel as though I have now contributed to the ninja 300 record-holding lap time at Putnam. Woot!
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August 1st, 2013, 07:34 PM | #69 |
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The front straight isn't really all that bad on a 250. Just long enough to top it out and then you gotta shut some of it down for turn one. I binned it in turn one my last race there. And if your skeerd of the wall, you can gain nearly a full second by hammering turn 10.
Fyi, the track is more suited to stock gearing.
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August 2nd, 2013, 02:27 PM | #70 |
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I'll definitely haul it along to Putnam if we have room in the trailer! We'll be out at Mid-America Motorplex on Monday so I'll take another video over there. That's a faster track so will be a bit different. I just installed a quick-turn throttle, and modified the steering stops to tighten up the range a little bit so I could move the clip-ons out a little more. Also taking of the ignition switch and right-hand switchgear and replacing with small toggle switches to drop some more weight. I take a pic of that all as soon as it's done.
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August 2nd, 2013, 02:41 PM | #71 |
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Here's the modified steering stops, we drilled the stock tabs on the bottom triple and tapped it for a 4mm screw, then put a screw with a locknut on there to make it adjustable.
Here's the quick-turn throttle. It's from cycle pirates. |
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August 2nd, 2013, 02:42 PM | #72 |
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Wow, I just noticed in the picture the freakin' HORN is still on there!! That's coming off right now, I can't believe I missed that!
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August 2nd, 2013, 03:02 PM | #73 |
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Gold valve emulators are mine... all mine! eggcelllent! thanks Jarel
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August 2nd, 2013, 03:09 PM | #74 |
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Hey, no problem, enjoy! Somebody still needs to take that Ohlins shock off my hands, it's just sitting in a box in the corner of the shop after being replaced by the TTX! Only has ONE track day on it, sprung for 170-200lb. rider. They're $900 new, but our shop is an Ohlins service center so I didn't pay that much for it. First one to PM me a reasonable offer can have it!
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August 2nd, 2013, 03:33 PM | #75 |
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$50!!!! Repeat customer.... ya know
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August 2nd, 2013, 03:36 PM | #76 |
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August 2nd, 2013, 04:01 PM | #77 |
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Was just joking, would have pm'ed if I had one.
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August 3rd, 2013, 02:01 PM | #78 |
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Got the RH switch removed and replaced with a toggle and push-button starter. Couldn't get rid of the ignition key yet, we didn't have the right resistor laying around for it, so I'll have to work on that again next week. The plan is to wire the engine stop switch to be always on and then use the toggle for the ignition switch, so it will be nice and clean.
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Coming right along
Dang that's a pricey piece o rear suspension
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