December 18th, 2013, 07:21 AM | #41 |
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But what was on your front cam?
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December 18th, 2013, 07:59 AM | #42 |
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He's on a Rosso II front and I doubt he'll ever admit it but after I recommended the IRC rear he actually went I bought a brand new one for his bike I know crazy right.
But if a 300 rider ever asks me in person I'll tell them the IRC is crap and they should upgrade to rosso's ASAP. I'll also offer my cheap tire mounting service and free disposal of the rear tire(on my bike for the next 7k miles ) |
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December 18th, 2013, 08:59 AM | #43 |
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Seriously, in your canyon riding, what speeds are you turning at? I end up on many "supermoto" roads, broken, tight, twisting, elevation changes mid corner. When ground down to the 20-40 MPH max turn speeds, the IRC were dead on the wheel, and gave zero feedback. On faster sweeping turns at 50-80 MPH they seemed OK but they weren't being pushed either. On the street I'll push the tires far harder at lower speed turns.
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December 18th, 2013, 09:24 AM | #44 | |
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Cam is using a Rosso II front and I'm on 600-1000cc race bike takeoffs in the front. I run whatever brand race tire in the front I can get for free or cheap because in the street even at my pace I'm never near the tires limit. On the track I use a Rosso II rear and a Michelin pilot one 17-120/70 front. |
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December 18th, 2013, 09:55 AM | #45 |
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Got ya. If you get a chance, give the Duro HF918 a try on the street. I went thru a set of Conti Force super moto tires on my 300, same ones I run on my KTM sumoto wheels, and then tried the Duros. I have pushed them in parking lot turn drills and they aren't bad. I haven't spooned any on the sumoto, yet. Not sure I trust them under that bike at its level of power and braking.
I'll probably try them anyway. They smoke the IRC in feel. Cold they get greasy and I have them pretty much destroyed at 4000 miles, same as the Contis which should have been changed far earlier. They are my go to tire for the Ninja now. $130 a pair delivered. |
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December 18th, 2013, 10:01 AM | #46 | |
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anyway, for performance use the irc tire is a piece of ****.
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December 18th, 2013, 11:13 AM | #47 |
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Wait I never said they were good tires. On the front it would be terrible. These bikes don't make enough hp to spin up the rear even with the irc. I just put the ninja 300 irc on the rear and I haven't noticed any issues with it. The only thing it doesn't do so well is under hard braking it won't stay in line like the Rosso II. But that was under super extreme conditions. It simply doesn't have the outright grip. But the feel while transitioning and all of that, it's fine.
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December 18th, 2013, 11:33 AM | #48 |
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At 2,500 miles, my rear has noticeable wear on it. There's no way it will make it to 7,500.
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December 19th, 2013, 12:27 PM | #49 |
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I agree, the bt45 is my favorite tire. I've even had them on at the track and they stuck fine...until I hit the rumbles leaned over. Oops.
the 003s are good too but the center wears too quickly for street riding. I just bought a new bike and before taking it out of the shop, I had them take the IRCs off and replace them 45s. I have to be able to trust my tires and my bike to enjoy riding.
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December 19th, 2013, 12:53 PM | #50 |
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yeah i've had that issue a lot going through chicanes. like at chuckwalla there are little chicanes before and after the front straight. i'm always hitting that inside curb. you have to drop your body down quick by pushing the bike up when this happens (not using the steering), like a real sudden hook turn almost. it buys you about 10 feet which by then you're past the gator teeth hopefully (if you hit them at apex) and you can catch traction again then slowly bring your body up to a reasonable position. one time i almost fell off the bike doing that. if you watch todd grice, he does this with a lot of weight put on his dragging leg... you can watch him lowside and prop the bike up with his leg multiple times a lap. you see his leg after he gets off and not only are his knee pucks scraped up, so's his shins, and boots, and toes. pretty gnarl
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December 20th, 2013, 11:08 AM | #51 |
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heard of Pilot Street Radials??
Anyone heard of the Michelin Pilot Street Radials? I can't seem to find any decent info on them except that they were compared to Pirelli Demons and they last longer and are more grippy, allegedly.
I just had my IRC original replaced with one today afte 17,000km. Too much touring with gear on too many straight roads flattened off the tyre considerably. Could have done another 5000km easy, but was less and less sure about the tyres. This is my first ever new tyre. WOW, what a feeling! From a flattened off rear tyre to a fresh one, so many differences that were noticeable. Softness was first noticed, then steering ability. Gotta take it easy for the first 60km. I did notice a little movement when going through some small roundabouts. Fresh undies not required though Now i really want to replace the IRC front tyre! |
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December 20th, 2013, 02:21 PM | #52 |
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They haven't released those yet in the US, as far as I know.
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December 21st, 2013, 08:55 AM | #53 |
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Check out this thread. They only became available in the US late September and Revzilla started carrying them in November. You are probably the first forum member though that has any first hand experience with them. It would be great if you could update that thread with your impressions on the tire as you get more experience with them and even if you decide to go with the front tire
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December 21st, 2013, 10:54 AM | #54 |
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December 23rd, 2013, 11:55 AM | #56 |
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I have no problems with the rear IRC just the front tire. I am on the 2nd rear, a nail destroyed the first one and I got plenty of tread left on the rear.
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October 18th, 2017, 09:03 AM | #57 | |
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its been a while... street radial update
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I ride to commute (30km round trip), and do the odd run out through the hills, but twisties are non existent in Western Australia. In the end, the choice was made for me by the local kawi dealer. There was no other option apart from shipping tyres in from the east coast and paying an extra $100+ for the privilege. Super happy with the tyres. I recently forked out for new tyres on the W650, but that was because they were 15years old. I'll soon be parting with the W and heading back to the ninja as my only ride. |
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October 18th, 2017, 05:58 PM | #58 |
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There's nothing wrong with IRC's....If your just commuting.Outside of that, it's not the tire you want. I have PSR's it's not the best but way better. Why waste time and money buying an inadequate bias-ply tire when there are other options in the same price bracket.
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