February 21st, 2013, 09:21 AM | #81 | |
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Whereas if the bike simply slides across the pavement your fairings get chewed up but at least the internals of the bike should remain intact.
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February 21st, 2013, 09:53 PM | #82 |
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This might sound stupid but have you ever ridden a bicycle ? I didn't really have to think about counter steering at all when I took my bike out for the first time which I guess is because I was use to a bicycle.
I have only ridden on back roads and parking lots so far until I take the MSF this up coming March. I can't wait! |
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February 21st, 2013, 10:30 PM | #83 |
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I am quite good at riding a bicycle The thing is, like most, I learned how to ride a bike and never knew what counter steering was until I started looking into motorcycles. Now I know why the bike turns and how to properly turn it and now it goes through my head when I am on the motorcycle sort of creating a distraction; one of the many things that I have running through my head as a new rider :/
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February 23rd, 2013, 09:46 AM | #84 |
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ANyone know what that hole is on my clutch/left lever set? (post #80) Is there supposed to be a bolt there?
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February 23rd, 2013, 09:50 AM | #85 |
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It's for a scooter style mirror
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February 23rd, 2013, 09:58 AM | #86 |
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So mirrors on the handle bars? Is there supposed to be a cap that covers it or something?
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February 23rd, 2013, 10:04 AM | #87 |
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Yes, there is usually a little plastic cap. Look on your other handlebar, there is a twin one there as well.
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February 23rd, 2013, 02:48 PM | #88 |
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Hey guys, new question. It just snowed a bunch here and might snow a bit more this coming week. I wont be able to take it out and practice probably for another week or so. I was wondering, is it worth it to drain the carbs, add stabilizer to my gas and all that? Ie, would it be worth it to go through the winterization process? If anything it will probably just be cold for another two weeks or so. Would it be better to just start it every once in a while and throw the battery on a tender? Maybe take it up and down the street real quick to get things going?
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February 23rd, 2013, 02:50 PM | #89 |
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Drain the bowls of the carbs and connect the battery to a charger (less than 1.0 Amp), instead of starting it up.
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February 23rd, 2013, 02:55 PM | #90 |
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Is it necessary to top off the gas tank and put stabilizer in? I have about half a tank
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February 24th, 2013, 10:58 PM | #91 |
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I hear ya, signed up for mine about a month ago, have to wait until the second weekend of April to take it. The wait is killer. It will be worth it though.
Top notch riding lessons and your riding test waved. Glad you made it through without injury. And don't worry counter-steering is a blast once you get the feel of it. |
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March 2nd, 2013, 07:57 PM | #92 |
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March 3rd, 2013, 05:43 AM | #93 | |
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re your crash, the traction on the roads in the midwest during the winter months can be pretty sketchy due to the grime left over from salt/sand/etc, and i've felt the bike get loose here and there, and it can be pretty unnerving in a slow corner. believe it or not, the control and stability you have at faster speed is better. the gyro forces are higher and the amount of time you spend on a compromised surface is shorter. not saying to go faster to be safer, but that you can probably write your crash off as an explainable, learnable event. for low speed riding, besides the obligatory helmet the most important piece of gear to wear is GLOVES. everyone WILL go down at some point, and do you really want to nurse your other wounds with bandaged hands? and the ability to effectively/confidently support yourself in a fall situation is huge in mitigating the damage to your other body parts. for over-pants, i use the alpinestar textiles with the zip up sides. on/off in seconds, look almost like real leathers, and fit great. |
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March 3rd, 2013, 09:47 PM | #94 |
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so pretty much, any pants can potentially be used for overpants right? I guess my best bet is to just try and bunch of stuff on. I actually drove 45 minutes to a shop yesterday (in another town) and I guess I should have called because they decided to close early that day
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March 3rd, 2013, 10:37 PM | #95 | |
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Good thing I didn't buy a brand new bike...dumb noob drops are very real.
Sucks though that it still had fresh bodywork. Welcome to the club. Quote:
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March 3rd, 2013, 11:10 PM | #96 |
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ahem....I did have insurance, as well as my permit, riding around at 2 pm; nothing wrong with that
It was stupid of me though, I wont argue with that. Like I said, I road to a parking lot (down the street from my house), felt pretty comfortable/confident, and road down to an empty neighborhood...public road yes, but might as well have been a parking lot. Unfortunately, rather than learning braking procedures, drilling countersteering techniques etc etc, I was actually riding around and taking corners that are way too advanced for me to even have considered trying. Point is, lesson learned and it was most likely going to happen anyways. At least it was simple reality check with no traffic around, letting me know that bikes are not to be ****ed with and now I am going full atgatt rather than riding in just a helmet and jacket. Am I bummed that I crashed? Yes. Could it have been avoided? Yes. Am I glad that it happened? Yes...I personally feel like I needed this to happen. If not I would have ended up riding later that week and probably would have been in a higher speed accident, in traffic, with just a helmet. |
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March 4th, 2013, 11:50 PM | #98 |
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how do you get insured without a license to operate a motorcycle? Please explain...is there only one class of license for both bikes and cars? Even then, you said you have no license...
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March 4th, 2013, 11:53 PM | #99 |
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I have heard of insurance companies that will insure you even without a license. The agent I went through even advertises that.
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March 5th, 2013, 12:19 AM | #100 | |
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Kids ride around on motorcycles with just permits...why wouldnt insurance companies allow them to be insured? |
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March 5th, 2013, 05:51 AM | #101 |
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The guy I got my 250 from told me he has been riding on his permit for 5 years. he now has a cbr 1000. Insurance has no problem with just a learners permit. The only restrictions are no passengers, and no sun down rides
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March 5th, 2013, 07:34 AM | #102 |
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Isnt the permit only good for 6 months though? Or I guess he just kept renewing it?
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March 5th, 2013, 09:09 AM | #103 |
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I had insurance with a beginners permit. Once I got my license, the rate went down a little.... like $13 a year for liability insurance if I recall.
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March 5th, 2013, 09:14 AM | #104 | |
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Funny... "have to"... I can see signs on the roadside, I can see cars around me... I can't read a newspaper at less than arm's length... and for that, I must wear glasses that don't quite have the same field of view to the side as the helmet allows... so between 75 and 90 degrees to the left and right, I have a gap where my glasses end and this is in effect a blind spot for me....
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March 5th, 2013, 09:45 AM | #105 | |
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March 5th, 2013, 09:54 AM | #106 |
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You are absolutely right about contacts. I've resisted since I work in a paper mill and we do boilouts that release lots of alkalines into the air in the part I work in... but that's only every couple of weeks. Maybe I need to reconsider. Thanks for the prodding.
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March 5th, 2013, 12:31 PM | #107 |
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Yeah I am at $175 a year for full coverage. Too bad I paid in full already. I know they take off a little for the msf course but would they just refund me that little bit or am I just sol for this year?
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March 5th, 2013, 02:59 PM | #108 |
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I'm sure they'd take it off.... maybe rounded to the nearest quarter of the year... dunno. We're at something like $108 per bike per year for liability and comprehensive. When mine was financed, I think it was about $380 a year.
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March 13th, 2013, 08:02 PM | #109 |
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Ok so I just got a new clutch lever, and holder assembly. How do I replace it? I have the bar end off, probably going to take some compressed air to slide the grip off. Then I unscrew the two screws to the head light switch housing
From there...do I have to disconnect/mess with the choke switch? I guess I should lube that cable while I am in there. Do I just disconnect wires harnesses and slide it off the bar as well? I dont have time until the weekend to mess with it but I imagine that is it. I just dont want to get to any surprises with the choke cable |
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March 15th, 2013, 10:00 PM | #110 |
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I figured out the clutch holder thing. Got the new one on, but I am wondering, is it necessary to lube the choke cable? I am taking a look at it and it seems like I wont be able to completely disconnect the motor side of it without taking off a bunch of crap. Is it fine to just spray in some WD40 and lube and let it come out onto the motor? Just clean up after words?
So my tires are the IRC road winners. I doubt they are the originals since there are 17000 miles on the bike. Anyways, the front still has a good amount of life in it, but the rear is pretty dead; very little tread in the center, and plenty of tread on the sides. Definitely needs replacement but will it be a problem if I only ride in the dry? I dont plan on riding in wet roads at all for a while. I definitely dont want to stick with these IRC's since they are just as expensive as dunlops, bridgestones, and pirelli's but would it be really bad for me if I bought a rear dunlop gt 501 and stuck with the current irc front tire for a bit? I know its generally not good to mix brands but I have read about some people mixing and not having any problems. This bike is killing my bank account, mostly due to buying all the gear. At most, I would probably get a new front next month. |
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March 15th, 2013, 10:10 PM | #111 |
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You'll be fine to mix brands front and rear. I have for years, except when I go to the track. WD-40 or a lubricant will work on the choke cable like you described. Money is well spent on good gear. Enjoy your bike, stay safe, and keep improving your riding skills.
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March 15th, 2013, 10:22 PM | #112 |
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Awesome. Guess Ill grab a one then
Also, I need to do an oil change. Does anyone know where I can get rotella t6 10w40? Walmart has rotella t6 but they only carry 5w40. |
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March 15th, 2013, 10:33 PM | #113 |
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How many miles and how long has it been since the last oil change? Try your local bike dealer for oil.
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March 15th, 2013, 10:36 PM | #114 |
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Not sure, but the previous owner mentioned it could use it since it hasnt been dewinterized yet. I doubt it is 100% necessary yet but I would rather be safe and just do it as it is pretty cheap.
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March 15th, 2013, 10:41 PM | #115 |
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Oil is cheap so definitely do an oil change if you don't know how long its been, and don't forget a new oil filter while you're at it.
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March 16th, 2013, 04:04 AM | #116 |
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March 16th, 2013, 08:23 AM | #117 |
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ahh yes, just looked around and there is no T6 10w40
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April 1st, 2013, 11:54 AM | #118 |
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So everyone, I got my bike all back together and have been riding around keeping to parking lots and neighborhoods. I am still scared to ride in traffic but I am getting there. I took the MSF course, it was helpful but I don't like how a lot of things were untaught, or just assumed was known. Also made things difficult because the bikes ran crappy, had bent shift levers, and broken speedometers. I was really good in practice (did figure 8's like they were nothing) but when we finally got tested, I did poor on everything; still passed but I was the first one to go for each test, did not get to practice much before hand.
Anyways, I have been wondering. Here is my rear tire Those are the road winner tires, probably not originals since the bike has 17k on it. Anyways, obviously, the previous owner (he put on 16000 of the bikes miles) did not lean the bike over very much; the sides look untouched. I have been researching breaking in new tires and I am starting to think. Could I have fallen over because I leaned too much and the tires (sides) are still waxy? What are some good ways to break in tires? I was planning on doing figure 8s and stuff but I am afraid to lean the bike over very far |
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April 1st, 2013, 12:07 PM | #119 |
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The tires need to be changed. Stop posting pics of them in multiple threads, step away from the keyboard, and put on tires that don't look like this: |..........................................| \........................................../ .\_________________________/ You've already crashed on them once, and if you're unable to feel why they are performing so poorly, it very possibly won't be the last time.
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April 1st, 2013, 12:15 PM | #120 |
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At your stage of riding, you need new tires to "feel" what turning is supposed to be like. Those are far from saving with a "break in". Also, before you get new tires, google up "scubbing in tires".
Enjoy and ride safe!
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