June 11th, 2014, 06:06 AM | #121 |
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June 11th, 2014, 03:49 PM | #122 |
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This popped up on Facebook today. The first bike laps at Thompson ever -- a TTD staff day so they can get familiar.
This, I believe, is Ken Condon riding a Triumph Speed Triple (675 cc). Here's what I see after running through it once (I'm a track virgin so I'm focusing on things that probably don't matter to experienced track guys): 1) Most significant... he rides the entire lap except for the second half of the straight in one gear. No shifting. He starts out in third, but after Tony passes him he goes down to second and leaves it there. On the straight he only gets up to fifth. For a newb, this is cool because it's one less thing I have to think about. 2) Speeds... Turn 1 (which is what I'm thinking is the most challenging for a newb to get right because we'll be hauling it down from high speed and it's a tight right) is about 45 mph. Peak on the straight is about 120. Most turns are 45-55 mph. The slowest is the hairpin before the bridge, which is about 40 mph. For Ken and other experienced riders, the pace looks calm. For me it's probably the best I can wish for. I love the web. I can learn all the reference points weeks before I ever get to the track.... I anticipate looping this a few times.
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June 11th, 2014, 04:26 PM | #123 |
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That guy trailbrakes very deep. ijs
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June 11th, 2014, 05:26 PM | #124 |
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Track looks so smooth. Maybe it's the bike but I'd ride that much differently. Although he might just be puttin around. Still looks like fun.
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June 11th, 2014, 05:35 PM | #125 |
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You may have heard of this guy. He's Ken Condon, a columnist for Motorcycle Consumer News and author of Riding in the Zone (http://www.ridinginthezone.com/). He's one of Tony's instructors.
And yeah, he advocates trail braking. I do get the sense they weren't pushing at all. I'll be lucky if come anywhere near that speed as a first-timer anyway.
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June 11th, 2014, 05:38 PM | #126 |
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Your 750 could coast around faster than they were running. I think that was the video so everyone would feel comfortable going there.
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June 11th, 2014, 06:28 PM | #127 |
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My bike might... we'll see if I can.
He was hitting 120 on the straight.... but having said that, he never got it up into 6th gear.
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June 12th, 2014, 04:48 AM | #128 |
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Holy toadstools. I finally got to watch this with the sound on. Is he trailbraking PAST the apex?
Beyond me.... I'm still trying to get past the walk-and-chew-gum-at-the-same-time feel of modulating the brake lever and the throttle simultaneously.
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June 12th, 2014, 04:54 AM | #129 |
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FYI: Tony posted a copy of his pre-event email over on BORN. Too long to revisit here, but a couple of items are of special interest:
- You can get into the track the night before. They'll be running tech the night before for our convenience. - Camping is available and Tony's paying the fee. Don't let your dog crap on the grass. Check with the track to see if you can even bring your dog. - Garage space is available for $25 cash per bike. There is power in the garage, but no benches so if you want a table, bring one. If you've got a race trailer you may NOT run an extension cord from the garage to the trailer. Personally, I'm going to spring for garage space. My visit to NH made it plain that it's worth it. Plus I'll get to leave the canopy at home....
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June 12th, 2014, 04:55 AM | #130 |
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Brake until you have a speed you are comfortable with and the proper direction, which could be past the apex.
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June 12th, 2014, 06:52 AM | #131 |
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Neither will you. 6th gear is for cruising the highway. You will really only need 2nd and 3rd, and 4th on the long straight. RPMs are your friend at the track. They provide quick acceleration and deceleration (when used with brakes). Just get into a rythme and try to improve every lap. You want to use max torque to max HP in shifting.
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June 13th, 2014, 08:07 AM | #134 | |
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Hanging with you guys works for me. I was willing to spring for a garage for convenience and sun protection... it's going to be late July, after all. Plus there's a cool buzz around the garages. I'm a bit up in the air about this.
Let's confirm arrival plans, space needed etc. as we get closer to the date. Better read the following... it's the communication Tony sent out regarding this Saturday's event. Apparently parking in the pit area is quite limited, which may affect your decision to set your home-away-from home up there. Having said that, there's also supposed to be parking away from the pits. Note bold text below (my adds). Don't take my word for any of this... I recommend you guys go over to bandofriders.net and check out the posts in the TTD section or better yet, contact Tony directly. Here is the text portion of the stuff he sent out regarding this Saturday's Thompson trackday: Quote:
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June 13th, 2014, 08:36 AM | #135 |
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Having been to about every motorcycle track in America I would suggest you all going in on the garage. It's alway 1000 times better. I'm not a camper (unless RVing is considered camping at the track) but indoors with a fan, a floor with a rug (which I always bring), chairs, cooler, tools, music, shade, always beats hoboing it.
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June 15th, 2014, 07:20 AM | #136 |
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kayso...
I went up and stuck around for the morning. Ant made it but couldn't stay past the rider's meeting. Track feedback The track was only starting to dry out by the time I left and speeds were starting to ramp up. Consensus among the riders I spoke to: It's pretty tight. Nice variety for such a short track. Observations: They've got SAFER barriers in key spots (e.g. under the bridge) but as noted above, not everywhere. TTD laid out cones in some places to force safer lines (exiting the oval, and the first right-hander in the twisty section). There are many places to spectate... basically you can see the whole track except the turn 9-10 area. Parking/garage feedback: It's very crowded. Admittedly a lot of people showed up (I heard 128). Parking was chock full. If you do the canopy thing you will be RIGHT next to people on either side. I have a feeling that pitting near one another isn't going to happen unless we try to all show up at the same time, which is just silly. You're going to arrive and a staff member will point. You go where they tell you. There's plenty of room for tents in the field over towards the skid pad. It's the pit/canopy section that's full.
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June 15th, 2014, 07:25 AM | #137 |
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At this point I think I'm going to take CC's advice and get a garage spot. One less thing to pack and set up (canopy). Better protection from the weather. But I might be talked out of it.... $25 is peanuts compared to the cost of the weekend.
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June 15th, 2014, 08:30 AM | #138 |
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Sounds just like what we had at Jennings. A 8x10 pad with 2ft before the next pad. No worries mang, it makes things cozy. But I am down with the garage thang, if that floats your boat. For the trip I am taking... I aint lettin' it be a second thought.
And... 128 peeps?!?!?!? All riders? Assuming 3 group format, that is 42 riders per group. If so, those are some pretty large groups for a short and tight track. ijs, been there, done that. Makes for a fun day of passing though .
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June 15th, 2014, 05:04 PM | #139 |
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Im all set and signed up for Monday July 21st, now i just need to get the 250 in shape!
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June 16th, 2014, 02:02 PM | #140 |
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Chris:
There were four groups. I never got the sense that the track was really crowded because of the way they stage people, but you know how things can bunch up. One of the fast guys posted a more detailed review of the track on BORN. Easier to just click through: http://www.bandofriders.net/forums/s...&postcount=104 So you're definitely doing the garage thing? My decision is driven mostly by wanting to hang with someone, but partly by the idea of being out in the sun, in a leather suit, for two whole days in late July.... Ant is going to be outdoors. Jay's just doing one day and will probably be outside too.
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June 16th, 2014, 02:06 PM | #141 |
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Ill more than likely just bring my canopy and a packed cooler. Tossing up if i should go sunday and stay the night but i more than likely wont.
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June 16th, 2014, 02:23 PM | #142 |
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Out in the sun?.... lol, ummmm no. Between my trailer and the ez-up 10x10, I aint bakin' in the sun.
If you wanna do the garage thing, that is cool. Let's do a garage. But it may be all for nadda... I haven't bought my spots yet and they seem to be SOLD OUT. Maybe I can catch a cancellation or something.
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June 16th, 2014, 02:30 PM | #143 |
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/sigh.....
I tried to register on the TTD forum to post a WTB thread for those dates, ANY group. But... now I have to wait for my account to be approved.
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June 16th, 2014, 02:31 PM | #144 |
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I think you can buy the 2 day spot, but not a sunday only. Unless they just sold out this weekend, i bought my spot on sat.
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June 16th, 2014, 03:01 PM | #145 |
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180 on the straight, that's enough for wood. If the RI crew get a track day I might have to venture up. Actually, I'd like to give it a spin just for fun. If I could do CT, NH, NY, NJ, and NC on the same trip in the fall, it would put a smile on my face.
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June 16th, 2014, 03:02 PM | #146 |
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There's an old chestnut about early birds and worms that I could quote, but you already know it....
Time for a show of hands. Quote the post, add your name and other info Name Days riding Arriving Camp/hotel Pit (garage or outside) adouglas (Andrew) Both days Sat eve Camp Undecided bigballsofpaint (Jay) Mon only ??? ??? Outside Ducati999 (Ant) ??? ??? ??? Outside csmith12 (Chris) Loser Loser Loser Loser
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June 16th, 2014, 03:14 PM | #148 |
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Things have a funny way of working out....
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June 16th, 2014, 03:15 PM | #149 |
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Smarta$$. (My wife calls me that all the time. I take it as a complement. Even by buttocks are intelligent, according to her.)
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bigballsofpaint - (Jay)
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June 20th, 2014, 08:57 AM | #151 |
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Hey guys, any of you on the tonystrackday.com forum? I tried to join to post a WTB thread but seems I can't post anything until my account is approved. I have waited 3 or 4 days now on that approval. Will one of you guys create a WTB thread for ANY group for one of those days or both for me please? I am checking the registration page very frequently just in case a canceled day shows up in the pool to buy.
@ttd - could I trouble you to lemme know if any spots open up for the July Thompson dates please? Pretty please?!?!?!? Thanks Tony! Hope to see you soon.
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June 20th, 2014, 10:23 AM | #152 |
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Chris, do you want one or both days? I'm on the TTD forum and can post up for you.
However, you might get better results if you join and post at bandofriders.net. It's a Connecticut-based forum and Tony's has a section there. A whole lot of riders going to Thompson are on that forum. A heads up that they're very rude, in a good-natured way. If you introduce yourself you're likely to be told to go f*ck yourself. It's meant in the best possible way. Good people. If you like I can post a query there too.
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Mr. Fist,
I am humbly asking for help here. Honestly, I am already spread a bit thin (my fault). If you would please make the posts for me I would greatly appreciate it. I can pm you my contact info so I can take care of the payment part. I have cash in hand ready to spend. I will take anything available, one day... both days... any group. I am not picky, I just wanna get up there with you guys. Either way, I am planning to come just to hang out as pit crew, I will bring my bikes just in case though. Like I said, things have a funny way of working out.
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June 20th, 2014, 01:02 PM | #155 |
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Sorry for the delays on approving... I'm in the middle of a 10 day stretch of trackdays and races.... leaving tomorrow for the NY track (Sunday and Monday).
As for the July dates in CT, the only hope to get in is through a Private Sale - which generally happens in the last week when people find out they cannot make it. Hope to meet some new faces! Also, we anticipate all the CT dates selling out early, so consider jumping on the August dates early. If you cannot make it, you'll have no problem selling to someone who waited.
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June 20th, 2014, 02:12 PM | #156 |
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Thank you sir!
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signed up for the razee/ttd in september
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Sept 23 is razee/ttd day at CT. Discounted (for up here) at $175, you could also do a day or 2 days before (if you want to destroy some tires). Trying to see if I can get to a NY day too.
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there's some good video of Tony and Ken at Barber where they attended a TD and at NHMS where they've run a ton of them. Even at loudon being tight you can ride around on a 600/750 in 2,3,4th gear but majority of time in 3rd.
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