February 27th, 2014, 09:39 AM | #121 |
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Yes, the 300 hugger fits the 250. It's been confirmed by PartsNinja.
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February 27th, 2014, 01:47 PM | #122 |
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February 27th, 2014, 04:17 PM | #123 |
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March 14th, 2014, 07:47 PM | #124 |
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July 1st, 2014, 08:40 AM | #125 |
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I know I'm bumping a old thread...but did anyone confirm if the 300 front fender fits the 250?
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July 14th, 2014, 09:03 AM | #126 |
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Lower and upper triple clamps are also compatible between (08-12) 250 and 300 Ninja. Forks are same diameter as well but have different mounts for the caliper. Front axles is the same. Spacers are different on the non brake side due to elimination of the speedo drive.
Anyone need more checking I have all 3 generations of the 250/300 in my garage so can quickly take a look to compare at least visually and by way of measurement what could be compatible. Will check on front fender and engine mounts later in the week.
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August 2nd, 2014, 11:23 AM | #128 |
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Engine mounts between Ninjette models.
OK so got around to take some measurements this morning. Seems that we are in luck. The width of the lower rear mounts is the same on my 08 250 and on my 13 300. Both are 120mm. The upper mounts are also the same at 100mm.
Now those front mounts are a different story since the 300 has some rubber mounts there that I did not see on the older models (would have to strip off the fairings to confirm). However since the rear mounts are the same it will be easy to modify the front mounts to suit. The distance between the lower and upper mount was difficult to measure but seemed to be the same as well at 180 to 185mm or somewhere in between. As I mentioned it is difficult to measure that distance but eyeballing it gives me 180 to 185mm and they both seem to be the same.
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August 2nd, 2014, 03:34 PM | #129 |
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any info yet on primary exhaust pipes ?? do they interchange ?? is there enough clearance for a 250 aftermarket system to fit the 300 engine ?? the 300 has different routing because of new shape and lowered oil pan and oil filter facing front so I am still wondering...
I will find out eventually on Monday but if sone has already tried even a stock 300 on a 250 or sth...
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August 3rd, 2014, 07:38 AM | #130 |
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300 and 250 exhaust headers.
I have tried the 300 headers on the 250 and it bolts straight on, no issues. Not sure about the reverse but could not see why you would want to do that. The 300 stock header pipe is larger than the 250 pipe, so would think there is minimal benefit.
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August 3rd, 2014, 08:20 AM | #131 | |
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" is there enough clearance for a 250 aftermarket system to fit the 300 engine ?? the 300 has different routing because of new shape and lowered oil pan and oil filter facing front so I am still wondering..." maybe I should have posted "racing"...
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August 3rd, 2014, 04:32 PM | #132 |
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I will take a look and compare soon as I am in the garage again.
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August 4th, 2014, 01:07 AM | #133 |
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thank you very much Rassie !!
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August 17th, 2014, 02:18 PM | #134 |
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I checked and it does not look like the 250 pipe will fit the 300. The 300 motor has a different sump that comes down lower. I attached some pictures so you can see.
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August 17th, 2014, 02:22 PM | #135 |
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BTW the headers on the right are Tyga headers. I have an exhaust sitting on the shelf that was supposed to go on my track bike. It was too nice so I decored the stock muffler and I am using that instead.
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August 17th, 2014, 05:00 PM | #136 |
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I tried the 300 header and it hits the oil filter cover on the 250.
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August 17th, 2014, 06:33 PM | #137 |
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thank you Rassie for all details and pics and c-n for your important input... well I am already "manufacturing" my own exhaust system.... 10cm of 250's yoshi R-77 headers, then another 40cm (give or take) 2nd and 3rd cylinder stock ZX-12R exhaust headers , then again yoshi 2-1 merging (the stock ZX-12 pieces fit right into it... well it took lots of cutting and fitting and measuring again and again but I am building it the way I want it on low budget for my 345cc project (need the money for more important engine stuff)... tomorrow some welding to match and bond pieces and then again to fit the rest... changed the routing and chose for the 300's stock path to gain some length... thinking about taking out the left side of the bike...will see how it goes...
pics later on when it'll look more like an exhaust, still in pieces... chose the stock ZX-12 cos I believe have right size (32,5mm ID) for what I am building and it was for free !! sitting in my garage for 12 yrs, was about time it came to use... got to think about ID of the rest of the pipe till muffler...yoshi is 42mm IDfrom merge till 30 cm before muffler, then opens up gradually to about 50, then narrows down again a bit into the muffler... think I'll keep a bit of that last part and make the rest out of 45cm ID pipe... hope I'll manage to avoid making the s-turn round the back of the oilpan to place the muffler on the right after all... another thing to say btw since c-n mention the stock 300 fitting problem a friend of mine recently managed to fit a stock 300 system on his '09 efi 250 kinda same way I am... kept about 12-15cm of the stock 250 headers, then cut the first 7cm off the stock 300 fit and welded it back together, passes under the engine just fine, no clearance issues... however 2 things that can be major drowbacks... 1. because of that "tailoring", the holding points of the exhaust are off by about 2cm... had to cut and weld that too, and he had to use a spacer for bolting on the muffler to the rear footpeg...looks funny at the moment, going to match it up properly soon...first impression is that it works much better throughout the rev ranga but no dynoing for him... I don't know what he is going to do with mapping though (don't forget efi european versions), I think it will be necessary to adjust the AFR... it is a very cheap solution (cost him about 90$ including cutting and welding but huge improvement to original stock 2. most important... problem removing oil filter... routing of 300's pipes don't leave enough room for taking out cover and changing the filter so it will be necessary to remove right side fairing unbolt the muffler bolt and the chassis bolt so that the pipes can "hang" abit and give enough clearance for the job to get done... the way I saw it this is not for sone who is not experienced with DIY sevice and/or not having a serious tool kit... one last thing to ask @Rassie and @cuong-nutz if I may... please measure the outside diameters of the primary pipes and that of the secondary, after the merging, just before it starts turning behind the pan, of the stock 300 just for comparison, since my friend is now on his way for the summer vacation and will be back in September... Rassie do the same on the 300 Yoshi if you have the time and courtesy... thank you both in advance!
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August 19th, 2014, 11:22 AM | #138 |
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The Yoshi pipe is 32mm at the header, then widens to 45mm after the collector and again widens at the exit from underneath to 53mm before it runs into the muffler.
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August 19th, 2014, 03:17 PM | #139 |
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300 stock exhaust piping
25.4 mm section going into the head 28.5 mm before the collector 38 mm after the collector 35 mm where exhaust slips over pipe
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August 20th, 2014, 11:22 AM | #140 | |
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After working with parts of it, what is left to be mentioned is that for every number Rassie is providing above, one must keep in mind a -3mm of inside diameter... thank you Rassie for your quick response...
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August 20th, 2014, 11:26 AM | #141 |
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I think that last measuring is what counts as far as secondary is concerned since after the collector is the cat I think and they gave it some space to not cut the flow so much... Thanks once again C-N !!
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August 20th, 2014, 03:46 PM | #142 | |
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my Measurements might be slightly off since my caliper could be off .4-.5 mm but I think what I gave you is close.
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August 21st, 2014, 03:56 AM | #143 |
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August 24th, 2014, 10:19 AM | #144 |
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Sorry if this was already discussed, thread was tl;dr
But, does the ninja 250 seat fit the ninja 300? Thanks
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August 24th, 2014, 11:27 AM | #145 |
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Yes for the 2013 plus fuel injected model 250. No for the 2008 to 2012 pre fuel injection models.
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August 24th, 2014, 11:33 AM | #146 |
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August 24th, 2014, 01:01 PM | #147 |
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Dang it, I was hoping that when I eventually move up to the 300 I could take my corbin seat
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August 25th, 2014, 08:14 AM | #148 |
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Yea, would have been nice to leave the seat pan the same.
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August 5th, 2015, 11:23 PM | #149 |
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do the rims swap with ninja 300
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August 5th, 2015, 11:23 PM | #150 |
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from a new gen 250 ^^^^
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August 6th, 2015, 10:06 AM | #151 |
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Yes the rear will bolt right in, but remember it is a little narrower. The front will also go right in but you will need a spacer to insert where the speedo drive used to be or just keep the speedo drive. Also the 250 front rotor is a 6 bolt versus the 5 bolt on the 300, so you will have to keep the 250 rotor. They seem to be the same size otherwise. Not sure about the caliper mounts, they seem to be in the same position after quick measurement.
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March 16th, 2016, 08:30 PM | #152 |
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I know there was mention about the 08-12 250 front wheel being compatible with the 300. Would it work with the ABS version of the 300? I'm assuming, if I purchase the correct ABS part, it'll swap right onto the 250 wheel?
EDIT: Looks like it won't work. The bolt pattern is different for the rotor/ABS. 5 bolts vs 6 bolts.
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