October 7th, 2009, 10:39 PM | #161 | |
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For example: When I first bought my bike and gear I took a fishing trip with a friend of mine to Wisconsin, the mecca of Harley riders. Within the two day trip I saw at least 90/100 Harley riders riding with only jeans and a t-shirt (men and women included). Compared to that I have to say on a positive note out of the 20 sport bikes I saw at least 10 of those people had gear on. I know it isn't much butter but there seems to be at least a better trend for those on sport bikes to wear gear compared to the cruiser scene. My point is parents definitely do make an impact on the decision process, but like you said only if the parent acts like a parent and not a friend. If the parent gives in to the desire of their child who wants to buy a sport bike and not wear gear when they fully well know that their kid doesn't fully understand the consequences of getting into an accident, then they themselves should prevent them from buying the bike in the first place and having such a scenario come about. But then again not everyone is that smart. Another problem is those kids who go out and end up buying stuff behind their parents back. Same lack of parental connection & supervision can be applied. In my case, when I was 21 I bought my trans am on my own without my dad knowing about it. I bought it through the result of influence from my stupid testosterone driven 21 year old friends who encouraged me to get such a car. When I brought it home, yea I got yelled at by my dad but in the end there was not much repercussion. I didn't realize what I had on my hands until I almost killed myself street racing. That sense of logic was never instilled into my brain by my parents nor by my surroundings. Luckily though I was smart enough not to buy a bike until I knew that my maturity level could handle such a dangerous machine. Considering that most people are the product of their environment this is another factor to consider as well.
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October 7th, 2009, 10:57 PM | #162 |
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okay, you struck at the very reason I started this post. Yes, I know there are some that feel a post like this is useless and it's none of anyone business but theirs, but nothing anyone could say would change that locked way of thinking.
The thread was started to help beginner riders know that gearing up should be a mandatory safety precaution that everyone who rides should subscribe to. If making a new rider aware of this helps to prevent them injury in a mishap, I feel the other retorts are well worth it. The main reason was the lack of riding pants I saw many forgo as a supplemental piece of riding gear. Somehow, it is always the last to be purchased and most times people who crash end up with knee/leg injuries. While I fully understand that no amount of riding gear will ever prevent you from getting hurt, it is my belief you will suffer less damage with gear on than without when in a crash. As for parents and their roles in guiding their children properly... not all are equipped with the experience and knowledge in every area needed when their child need advice/help. I feel an obligation to help in that regards to the newer riders on the board and openly pass on what I can from my years to help the learning process go smoother and with more success. Those who argue that they need to learn on their own and don't need anyone telling them what to do really don't see the big picture and perhaps never will. |
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October 7th, 2009, 11:37 PM | #163 | |
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I'll be wearing mine and begging others to wear theirs. |
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October 8th, 2009, 11:53 AM | #164 | ||
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Sadly these are the ones that all we can offer is hope and prayers that things will turn out OK.
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October 9th, 2009, 06:54 PM | #165 |
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Well, I had a 15MPH crash on my bicycle--front tyre blowout. Am looking at a month of PT twice a week to fix a messed up elbow. There is no PT for road rash. Hands and head are fine. I will need new gloves and a new helmet. Someday someone will invent some superlight bike clothes for us cyclists that prevent road rash. The Lycra/Spandex offers no proyection.
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October 9th, 2009, 07:57 PM | #166 |
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Blow out the back on a bike and you might have a chance but blow out the front and you don't event get to think about it. Sorry to hear about it Alex but glad it wasn't worse. Somehow I don't think we can come up with spandex that will provide the rash protection - at least not at prices we can afford.
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October 10th, 2009, 08:54 AM | #167 |
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Don, You are so right! A front tyre failure was a first for me---no warning, and the next thing you do is slide. I never thought one could get so messed up at 15MPH. I am glad that my arms and legs were still shaven from the TT last weekend. Made cleaning the rash easier. You know, a front tyre malfunction could be a bad scene on a motorcycle--all the more reason to suit up. I did 20 miles this morning. It is starting to get damn cold. I heartily endorse GIRO helmets. So far I have smashed two of them with no damage to the noggin.
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October 10th, 2009, 08:21 PM | #168 | |
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Have a great weekend - we had our first snow this morning. Only a couple of inches but I think it was just a "warning".
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October 11th, 2009, 06:03 PM | #169 |
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Many many many moons ago when I used to wear the lycra riding shorts of a much younger lad, I had a few scrapes with the asphalt and left a bit of skin on the road. My father had a rear blow out a few hundred yds from the house. He didn't wreck and it scared the daylights out of him. Glad to hear that you are ok and that it wasn't more serious. The helmet and the gloves did their job and sacrificed themselves for you.
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October 21st, 2009, 05:55 PM | #170 |
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That`s for sure. The episode sure drove home the rule that you wear all your gear all the time. I definitely got messed up at 15MPH--looks like the physical therapy will be longer than a month--did some serious tendon damage--just short of requiring surgery. Am still amazed that one can do so much damage at 15MPH. I have to say that a lot of it is my fault--I should have tucked in and rolled--that`s what I was taught in jump school. That was 40+ years ago and we tend to forget.
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October 21st, 2009, 07:09 PM | #171 |
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October 21st, 2009, 07:14 PM | #172 |
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Tor, That has to be it.
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February 19th, 2011, 02:33 AM | #173 |
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February 19th, 2011, 04:21 AM | #174 |
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went into airborne school at 5'7"..flew through that, got through RIp,selection, and got my tab and then landed in 2nd BN A Co 3rd platoon..
was there for a little over a year then went down to hunter with 1st B Co First platoon...long time ago.. spent a total of 6 years with Bn.. def shorter...last doc check i'm jus over 5'5" anyway.. it boggles me the amount of people who knowingly ride without helmets, in slippers(flipflops), wife beaters, shorts, no gloves,etc...when they have seen it in someway, the damage, the rash,etc. yet they do it anyway. it's like people who shoot heroine or smoke/snort meth...they know..but they do it anyway. or people who cheat..they know they'll get caught. so, to me..any impact and teaching,awareness made could change that persons perspective, especially as an adult or parent, just making or nicely persuading a beginner,etc to gear up..could change their perspective on gear and make them gear up, everytime. some won't..you can't lead every horse to water and make em or expect em to drink. just how it is. influence is good, especially when it's good. especially to the youth,friends and family. but..their is the bad influence or the i don't give a fuk attitude. win some lose some. have a good un |
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February 19th, 2011, 09:42 AM | #175 | |
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February 19th, 2011, 09:56 AM | #176 |
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holy old thread bump batman ...
i ride in cargo shorts and my k-swiss. I'm reckless and cool at the same time! Me and my bud out on a ride mid jan.
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February 19th, 2011, 12:27 PM | #177 |
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funny helmet law thing..Hawaii has no helmet law..but i think a couple year old study said 93% of riders wore em..the helmet is gonna happen this year though. which is awesome.
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February 19th, 2011, 04:01 PM | #178 |
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I don't know how anybody can ride without a helmet on. All of that noise and wind...it must be hard as hell to breathe. Also...bugs. One big bug to the forehead and I'd probably stop riding altogether.
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February 19th, 2011, 04:09 PM | #179 | |
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plz don't tell me that is really you in that pic? for anyone that will listen, ATGATT. |
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February 19th, 2011, 04:29 PM | #180 |
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LOL you think he would be dressed like that on a bike in WV in mid Jan considering the winters they've been having?
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February 19th, 2011, 04:32 PM | #181 |
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dunno... it's been warm and sunny here. Isn't it like that everywhere?
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February 19th, 2011, 08:23 PM | #182 |
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Once I was on the freeway, passing cars. Suddenly, SMACK! and I could see out of my right eye no more. It was a large green bug splatter on my face shield right in front of my right eye. Without the shield, the bug would have hit the right lens of my eye-glasses. Without my glasses, and sans the shield, it could have slammed right INTO my right eye ball. And I would have crashed at 80+ mph. To this day I have not determined what kind of a bug it was, but it was no mosquito or fly, I can tell that much. Maybe a large dragonfly or beetle.
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February 19th, 2011, 08:59 PM | #183 |
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We've got a lot of big-ass bugs here in Florida. I have no idea how riders deal with no helmet on bikes with no windscreen. You'll probably survive a bug strike - it just wouldn't be fun. It's the pavement that you really gotta watch out for.
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February 19th, 2011, 10:40 PM | #184 |
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So I take it you've never crashed before?
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February 19th, 2011, 11:14 PM | #185 |
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Vastly legitimized and popularized by Easy Rider, though not created by it. But what do you expect? Fonda's bike didn't even have front brakes!
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February 20th, 2011, 08:35 AM | #186 |
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Why would you ever want to crash?
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February 20th, 2011, 01:08 PM | #187 |
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I'm selective--only crash bicycles--four crashes in seven years. Three were while racing.
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February 20th, 2011, 02:00 PM | #188 |
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if we go to bicycles..then...call me evil kenievel(sp)
anyone ever taken a bumble bee to the chest?? that...effin sucks. i have my sunglasses on under my visor..for the sun and secondary protection..need to clean the visor after yesterdays ride with kenji808 and another ninjette owner. kevlar jeans are a good investment and a pair of padded underpants. it'll help the rash..but not too much for the impact. |
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