February 5th, 2011, 08:13 AM | #201 |
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IMO, this bike is ugly as hell . It looks like they put a strange looking sport bike tail on it, then it looks like the 1000rr / gsxr farings in the middle, and the front...the front is just not fit for a sport bike while the exhaust only exaggerates is flaws. I wouldn't be able to ride a bike that ugly. Ninja 250 all the way.
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February 5th, 2011, 08:56 AM | #202 |
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Another shootout between the 250's
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/1/9134...inja-250R.aspx tldr version: Honda good for new riders but Ninja better overall.
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February 5th, 2011, 09:05 AM | #203 | |
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"As for measured gas mileage, the more modern technology of the fuel injected Honda makes for a noticeable difference over the green bike...the trusty Honda recorded an astonishing 64.7 mpg. As for the Kawasaki, the more dated carb setup mustered an average of 49.1, giving the CBR the nod in the lightened-pocketbook department." I've never heard of a ninjette getting as low as 49 mpg's, have any of you? And for you speed demon's out there, the new cbr does almost 90mph and is all around slower than the lil ninja.
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February 5th, 2011, 10:04 AM | #204 | |
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41-50mpg is the second highest bracket on our poll here. I myself also am in the low 40's so it seems like 49.1 isn't far from the truth. |
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February 5th, 2011, 10:09 AM | #205 |
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February 5th, 2011, 10:13 AM | #206 | |
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February 5th, 2011, 10:18 AM | #207 | |
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February 5th, 2011, 10:21 AM | #208 |
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The torque will get the honda off the line ahead of you, so you can pat him on the back before waving good-bye.
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February 5th, 2011, 10:23 AM | #209 |
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February 5th, 2011, 10:26 AM | #210 | |
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February 5th, 2011, 11:22 AM | #211 | |
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I still think that those who prefer a twin will continue to ride the Ninja. A single is a totally different handling machine (more civilized) Sport riders are not into civilized. There is a lot to be said for the scream of a Ninja turning 11,000RPM. I seriously doubt that the Honda can replecate that. Riding a Ninja in town in 3Rd gear at 35MPH is OK. You twist the throttle a little bit, and the bike changes personality lunging ahead with a vengeance. Singles for the most part don't have that personality trait. Some will go for the Honda because of FI. I'm not so sure that FI would be my tipping point. If I had no bike and had my choice, I would still go with the Ninja--but that is because I had one for two years and know the bike. If Kawa came out with the FI Ninja in the US, it would, at least for me, be no contest--Ninja. I suspect that in another year to year and a half, I'll ge back on board a green Ninja and use the NT as a long range touring machine. Ninjas are like cats---they adopt you. It's not the other way around.
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February 5th, 2011, 10:42 PM | #212 | |
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Just so you know the CBR250 is designed to look almost identical to another of Honda's bikes. The VFR1200F. |
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February 5th, 2011, 10:45 PM | #213 |
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What is weird is I don't like the new VFR, but do like the CBR250.
What is funny is how they did the big/little brother thing, just like Kawi did.
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February 5th, 2011, 11:11 PM | #214 |
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Have these came out yet to dealers? I want to see one in person. Still, the only thing I like about the bike, is its tail.
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February 6th, 2011, 03:08 AM | #215 | |
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February 6th, 2011, 08:14 AM | #216 | |
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Not trying to defend the ugly bastard just getting the facts straight.
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February 6th, 2011, 08:42 AM | #217 |
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I think the vfr1200f looks good, but the cbr250 seems really small to me, when u look at it next to our 250's, it looks like a bicycle, and our 250's are alrdy pretty small. And other things that make or break a bike for me are the front cowl and the headlight design neither of which I like on the cbr 250.
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February 6th, 2011, 09:00 AM | #218 |
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So Honda looked hard at the competition, and decided what the CBR needed was a lower first gear, and less clutch feel?? Throw in an ABS system that you'd be better off not having, and an engine that can't pass traffic on the freeway.
Apparently when Honda logged into the Kawi forums, the only thing they read was the desire for fuel injection. Looks like what the CBR250 really is... a simple, safe little commuter, in wolf's clothing. A few nice features, but less potential than the Ninja. |
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February 6th, 2011, 09:36 AM | #220 | |
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I think FI is a HUGE selling point for this bike. Ever since I bought my '08 Ninja all I've heard on the forums is "when is FI coming on the Ninjette?" The Ninjette can be a cranky beast on chilly mornings here and I wouldn't miss having to futz with the choke for several minutes before every ride. I've never ridden a single, but from what I'm reading I think it would be more suited to my riding style. Visits to the redline on the Ninjette have been few & far between lately. I think the only drawback would be top speed compared to the Ninja and it's not like I'm out there trying to wring every rpm I can out of the twin. The engine counterbalancer seems to be up to the task of reducing much of the high-rpm buzzing on the highway, which is another of the Ninjettes tendancies I could live without. Add to that easier valve maintainence and the availability of ABS and there's no way I'm not taking a good solid look at this bike when it hits the dealerships in April. The only thing I see holding me back from trading in my Ninja for a CBR250R this spring is the possibility of Yamaha finally being spurred to re-enter the small-displacement bike market. I've owned a Yamaha 250 and 400 in the past and I would dearly love to own a Yamaha 250 again. Weather I pull the trigger on the CBR this spring or not will depend on how Yamaha responds to the CBR's launch in the US. I'm hoping they will finally throw down the gauntlet and give me the bike I've been waiting for. Otherwise I may have to spend a little time on a CBR250R while I continue waiting. |
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February 6th, 2011, 10:11 AM | #221 | |
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February 6th, 2011, 10:40 AM | #222 | |
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February 6th, 2011, 02:06 PM | #223 | |
So, where's the reverse?
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The review also mentions that the two bikes are the same MSRP in USA. Over here in the Canada though, the non ABS version of the Honda saves you $500 compared to the Kawasaki which gives the Honda very good value here as a beginner bike. Although these two bikes will compete in the 250 cc sport class, I believe Honda is going after a much wider market than the Kawasaki. Honda scooters and small bikes are everywhere in places like Asia and India. Kawasaki's presence is very small compared to Honda in some of these markets. The design of the Honda to make it smaller, lighter, more nimble, quicker off the line and more economical makes this bike much better suited to the congested city and urban conditions of India and Asia than the Kawasaki. The design will also make it more appealing to riders who are coming from scooters. While the twin engine in the Ninja gives it a performance edge over the Honda, you will almost never get to experience that top end power in many of the congested Asian cities. It may not earn the same type of respect here in North America as the Ninja, but on a global level I think the Honda 250 CBR is going to be a real winner. |
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February 7th, 2011, 08:11 AM | #224 |
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February 8th, 2011, 07:45 PM | #225 | |
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fuel economy. for me 60 mpg is typical on the ninja. i did have 1 tank full below 50 i think but there was a lot of waiting at traffic lights, and a lot of wailing to try to beat the next light. highway travel it gives around 55 in my experience. stop and go city travel, again about 55. open roads at 50-55 mph it gets 65mpg. highway travel. to me this is now a big deal. if the ninja did not "feel safe" merging into highway traffic i would have to, well, not use it for highway travel. in my opinion, the ninja is JUST BARELY POWERFUL ENOUGH to merge into highway traffic. the ninja has carbs. my bike has never sat more than 3 days un ridden (rainy weekends). i never messed with the carbs cause i think they work fine. yes i have to warm it up using the thing on the handle bar when it is below 40F. so i start it before i put on my helmet and gloves. this is a problem? not yet. and my fuel pump is gravity powered. if that ever wears out, i will have much bigger worries. honda is a great beginner and around town bike. the ninja is a great bike. period. here, have a sip of the green kool aid |
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February 8th, 2011, 09:57 PM | #226 | |
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February 9th, 2011, 06:39 PM | #227 |
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I don't think I read about the chickenwing style of cornering from Keith Code.
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February 9th, 2011, 06:51 PM | #228 |
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Interesting read. I'd really like to test one out on the track before committing though.
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February 9th, 2011, 06:56 PM | #229 |
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Don't care for the looks of the cbr but FI would be nice fer the ninja- its all its missing IMO
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February 9th, 2011, 07:34 PM | #230 |
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Honda really missed the mark by not offering a bike w/ a 400cc engine as their sub 600cc sport bike. if they had done that, instead of taking on the 250 ninja head on, they would OWN the sub 600cc market and the 250 Ninja dominance would be a thing of the past.
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February 9th, 2011, 08:05 PM | #231 |
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February 9th, 2011, 08:24 PM | #232 | |
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Here is hoping we see something even better from the likes of Yamaha and Suzuki if they enter the fight. And to add to all of the above, I really have not been impressed with anything honda has introduced as of late, granted it could just be the economy. But for a company that has such amazing history to come out with the VFR 1200 and DN-01 is just kind of disappointing. I mean your really going to soil the name of the interceptor line with that rolling whale?
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February 9th, 2011, 08:24 PM | #233 |
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So I guess in the overseas shoot-out the ninja FI started right up Lol _ seen the Honda Official video lol a 250 flying like a F16 a 600 must be a space shuttle..
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February 9th, 2011, 08:49 PM | #234 |
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/merged with the other mongo Honda 250 thread we have going...
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February 9th, 2011, 11:53 PM | #235 |
So, where's the reverse?
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Not an in-depth review of the CBR250R but the reviewer had many positives about it. Unlike the motorcycle-usa review, this review was complimentary of the ABS system. I'm excited about this bike. Even if it's a competitor, if it gets more people into riding and helps to grow the 250cc segment then I think all riders will benefit. I expect Honda to sell a lot of these in Canada given that the non-ABS model is $500 cheaper than the Ninja and the popularity of the CBR125 here.
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February 10th, 2011, 06:34 AM | #236 | |
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February 10th, 2011, 07:46 AM | #237 |
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It may be the perspective but this picture makes the Honda look tiny... I'm still waiting to see the Honda in person. Being 6'-1", I'm not sure the Honda will fit me.
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February 10th, 2011, 09:46 AM | #238 | |
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February 10th, 2011, 09:54 AM | #239 |
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At first I had my doubts about Honda's ability to enter the new CBR250r into the same ring as Kawasaki. Now I'm not so sure. Moriwaki Engineering has got something on the self in the form of a 250 track bike. The New Honda CBR250r. Moriwaki Engineering is big in Japan and already have a 250cc entry for racing (MD250H), so with Honda's latest 250 coming to the States, it was just a matter of time before we saw racing head to head against the Ninja 250. Moriwaki also makes products for Yamaha, Kawasaki & Suzuki as well. Mugen Motorsport has even put their signature design on the New CBR250r making it more sporty and aggressive with colored seats and chrome performance exhaust. For some, the stock version of the New 2011 CBR250R may not fit their styling and design taste, but you have to admit it has potential to be a awesome looking machine.
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February 10th, 2011, 05:00 PM | #240 |
So, where's the reverse?
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User review from Thailand of the Honda CBR250R. Seems more than capable on the highway up to around 120 kph for a rider about 75kg and 175cm. Confirms what a lot of early magazine reviews have said about the power band. Plenty of low to mid end power but because the single doesn't rev as high, power does tapper of towards the high RPM.
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