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View Poll Results: How often you use your rear brake | |||
80-90% | 50 | 46.73% | |
50-70% | 24 | 22.43% | |
20-40% | 16 | 14.95% | |
0-10% | 17 | 15.89% | |
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May 22nd, 2013, 01:32 PM | #241 | |
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Name: Brett
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May 22nd, 2013, 01:35 PM | #242 |
wat
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my point was you should not be slowing down in a corner. what tool you use to slow down is pointless.
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May 22nd, 2013, 01:39 PM | #243 |
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Here is the real scoop/non scientific dirt on hitting the brakes in a turn.
Once leaned over, any braking (front or rear) or rolling off the gas will send weight to the front of the bike, compressing the forks. The additional weight will also effect the tire as well, spreading the contact patch. The wider contact patch with increased drag will countersteer the bike, sending it wide in the corner. It is possible for the rider to fight the countersteer by holding the bars steady to keep it from running wide. It's subtle but experienced riders do it all the time and novice riders do it without even knowing it. What are the costs of fighting it? More suspension action, ridged feel to the front, the bike can become unstable/twitchy and most of all, traction is reduced. I know this because, I have been bitten by the pavement because of not knowing it.
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May 22nd, 2013, 01:41 PM | #244 | ||
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This is a good read for everyone curious about using the rear:
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There very much is a point to what tool you use. Chopping the throttle or grabbing the front brake while leaned over are very abrupt inputs that will have your line going wider and the bike standing up. Using the rear brake will not have as much of an effect, and can in fact tighten up a line mid corner. |
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May 22nd, 2013, 01:57 PM | #245 | |
wat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...QNP08vvA#t=37s if you are slowing the bike because of a hazard, picking up and braking will drop the most speed the quickest, afterward you can put the bike back down. keeping the bike down and braking takes your traction into a dangerous zone. doing that in an attempt to avoid a hazard is asking for mistakes. if you aren't slowing down because of a hazard, but instead because you took the turn incorrectly... this is a mistake. so when i say, you shouldn't be slowing down in a corner, this is what i mean. mistakes happen sure. but if you follow the rest of the riding logic... leave a buffer zone for traction, don't overrun your eye sight; then you should have room to simply add lean angle to complete the turn. if you are going so fast that you are in a turn too deep, at full lean angle, and are heading to the side then you are riding over your limits. on a track, this happens often but the results are that you simply go off track. on the street you hit a tree. so if you are riding over your limits on the street, suddenly encounter a hazard in the middle of the road and you have no buffer on either side, then guess what... using brakes isn't going to help either because its already too late.
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