Bored of the Ninjette

[Miles_Prower]

Originally Posted by Minikin_Jo

(and Mommy said yes )

damn, i'm in my mid twenties and my mom is still trying to not let me ride. "dont you dare take it on the highway!!"

wish my mom rode motorcycles lol

[Minikin_Jo]

I did ask my boys that once, if they thought it was weird their mom rode a motorcycle. They were like...eh...nah... I guess they don't even think about it.

Now MY parents, are a different story. My mom (in her Filipina accent) "Ay anak! Just be care-pull...okayyy??" and my dad, think's I'm going to kill myself.

[pomartin]

if you T-boned a car then you are not observing enough... and till you get this in your blood do not drive stronger/faster bike. why? It might happen again... and if u were faster= much bigger chances to serious injuries

just my opinion

[dirty nasty]

I found it hilarious how he said he T-boned a car, yet it wasn't his fault. Jack-ass, if you ride into the side of something it is your fault completely.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

I found it hilarious how he said he T-boned a car, yet it wasn't his fault. Jack-ass, if you ride into the side of something it is your fault completely.

This is not always true, see here; http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97999

[-kj-]

Originally Posted by robertkh100

No thanks, I know what it can do if I twist it all the way. I was just talking about people saying it's "sensitive".


Not trying to argue but what does a car turning left infront of me without looking when it was my light have to do with the bike im on? I was going the same speed I would have on a bigger bike.. if I was being immature and I crashed it, I definitely would not get a bigger bike and my parents wouldn't let me ride anymore.

Yea, the 250 is not the fastest. My car is way faster than the ninja 250 but I think your missing the point. When driving or riding you got to be a defensive minded person. The minute you let your guard down accidents happen. You can't assume people are going to do the right thing. EVen if the accident wasn't your fault... I hope you took something out of it.From the 1st page it said that you ran a yellow light and hit a car door or something. Now your saying that someone didn't yield when turning left. There's always something you could have done better. From my MSF course I learned a lot about scanning and putting yourself in the best position to prevent accidents.


Anyways... good luck with the 600.Im planning on getting a 600 when I have enough money. I still plan to keep my ninjette for driving around town. Ride safe.

[Little Green Machine]

Ok, so I'm not going to advise you to not get a bigger, more powerful bike, no not at all. In fact, i think you should do it! Why not? Oh and before you do any test riding, please add me to your Life Insurance Policy, K?

Make the check payable to LGM, so that way when you jump on the missle, and make yourself a human projectile, I can feel warm and fuzzy when the check arrives!

Really?! You wrecked the 250, and now your gonna get something even more dangerous for you to possibly take out an innocent bystander? WOW man, WOW!

[ARc]

Edit: Criticism retracted. I think enough of the hive mind responded and he knows what the community consensus is on his decision.

Advice: Get another 250, used so you don't have to baby it. Learn how to take care of it. Learn how to take it apart. Learn how to put her back together. Learn how to ride it hard. She's one of the few ones that aren't happy unless she's over 6k RPM. It's like your practice girlfriend. All subsequent ones that follow generally need to be taken care of the same way, ridden the same way. Learn how to not ever need the brake and be able to carry yourself throughout the turn with nothing but applying throttle. If you're as smart as you say you are, if you follow a little bit of the hypermiling stuff in this forum, you can easily get 65+ MPG. That and insurance combined is a lot of money saved you can put toward track days and a good set of tools.

You can start thinking about moving up to a bigger bike when you can take a corner at 60+ mph. If you have to ask what kind of corner I'm talking about, you're not ready yet.

[JELY1990]

Originally Posted by robertkh100

The 750 is less than 6k, and insurance is 1k a year. Not to mention the money I'll save on gas.

Just out of curiosity... what do you do at age 15 that you have over $7000 to spend on a motorcycle? That is a lot of money for someone your age. And are you not saving any money for college?

[Mountain Dew]

Originally Posted by JELY1990

Just out of curiosity... what do you do at age 15 that you have over $7000 to spend on a motorcycle? That is a lot of money for someone your age. And are you not saving any money for college?

I already asked that and didn't get an answer. Mommy and daddy are probably the ones that got it.

Oh, and earlier in the thread he said his car insurance is $3000/yr. I lol'd heartily.

[Numbersix]

Originally Posted by robertkh100

Guys, i'm not going to lie, I got bored of my 2012 ninjette after a month. ... Of course the ninjette has its advantages but I feel as if the power wasn't enough. I'm going to pick up a Gixxer 750 or R1 after I come back from vacation in a month.

You can do what you want (or, it appears, what your parents will sign for). I grew up in Santa Barbara where there was no shortage of people who trashed beemers and more only to have their parents buy them new ones, so on the scale of things, you're not exactly shocking me with the $ here.

I'll just focus on your desire: you want to have the powerful bike experience.

I strongly recommend that, if you have the $ at your disposal, you give up on street riding *for now*. Instead, get a (used) race bike and gear and pony up for some track lessons. CA has no shortage of good facilities for motorcycle racing.

You'll get all the adrenaline you can stand without the risk of taking out someone's family or being taken out by a soccer mom at an intersection. Plus, with instruction, you'll probably turn out to be a much better rider.

At this point another street bike for you, 250 or 600 or 1000, is just IMO another accident waiting to happen. You're thinking of how you're bored, not how you can keep another crash, even (especially!) the other guy's fault, from happening. The cc in the bike is almost irrelevant.

[Racer x]

Please let this thread die . I think the punk should get a busa and add a turbo . What ever it takes to just make him GO AWAY.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Racer x

Please let this thread die . I think the punk should get a busa and add a turbo . What ever it takes to just make him GO AWAY.

I thought you were going to suggest a 200shot nitrous kit, lol.

[Racer x]

He would not listen anyhow.

[oreX]

In all honesty I dont think you should have even been on the 250. Its not a matter of skill with riding a motorcycle, its a matter of experience on the road. Damn dude, you said it yourself, you t-boned a car while running a yellow light. I mean cmon? Seriously? I think you need to spend some time in a cage and learn how the roads work before you jump on a super sport and try tearing up the streets.

Simply put, upgrading to a 600 is not going to improve your riding skills. You just get to go faster. Ask @saxnbass about how the 250 gets him on his cbr 600 in some of the twisties around here :P

If someone has stated this already then I apologize, as I havent spent the time to sift through the mountain of "its a bad ****ing idea" responses.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Racer x

He would not listen anyhow.

I'm thinking he would listen since the only thing he is concerned about is power.

[Racer x]

Not power just attention . He does not know what power is.

[JELY1990]

Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

I already asked that and didn't get an answer. Mommy and daddy are probably the ones that got it.

Oh, and earlier in the thread he said his car insurance is $3000/yr. I lol'd heartily.

$3000 a year for car insurance?! Good for him for being born to rich parents (or parents willing to pay an outrageous amount). I am jealous.

[iplante]

Since OP is AWOL I think this thread should be left to die

[espacef1fan]

Free way is a problem? Get a pregen...they have more top end...they arent tuned for midrange torque...haha

In all seriousness though...

Power and power delivery arent the ONLY issues with a supersport/bigger/heavier/more powerful bike......

-Insurance is a no brainer
-fuel economy. 40mpg or so sounds okay..unless you are used to 65mpg
-The brakes. Holy **** ...any proper sull on sportbike has very sensitive and powerful brakes....really easy to lock the front tire in a panic or lowside while learning trail braking...

-more weight/power ..this becomes a viscous cycle of getting to speed faster than intended and having more weight to deal with when figuring out what to do about it with a corner infront of you!

FINALLY!!!!!

NOONE ever mentions this!

Maintainance.

Chains will tolerate more asshattery on a lower power bike such as neglect. So you will generally sport a problem with your poor maintainance schedule before it causes a wreck.

The same is true for other stuff maintaince wise...

[namdamyo]

Originally Posted by robertkh100

I was talking about the ninja 250 on the freeway. It was not comfortable at all, and I was only on it for 5 minutes. Another thing is I have to roll on the throttle pretty hard to get it moving. If your goal is to make me look like i'm riding for looks than ok, I'll just say I am so that you can relax and stop posting in this thread.

I've done a lot of freeway riding, and what I have to say is that at first, it kinda sucks. It was almost scary the first couple times: you're not used to the bike running constantly around 8-9k, bumps bounce you around, you're tense...
After a couple times riding the route to my college (about an hour and a half all on freeways) I was a lot more comfortable, and even started passing cars (which I'm comfortable doing now). Sure I get a little sore around the 2 hour mark, but you don't have to ride that long. (I'm actually considering upgrading my seat to tour longer ^^)

I've already put about 2500mi on mine since august '11, and I'd say probably 3/4 of that was on freeways doing between 55 and 75. Like I said it took some getting used to, and revving higher is disconcerting at first, especially after riding in town where I'm usually between 5-7k.

I haven't ridden anything above 250cc yet, but the other day I got to sit on an r6, fz6r and cbr600rr. The fz6r was by far the most comfortable and most similar to the stock 250r. I think if you want a different bike, sport tourers like the fz6r, 650r, versys, ninja 500 and the like are something to look into. the new honda nc700x looks interesting as well and still very reasonable on power! (and apparently gets equal or higher mpg than the 250)

[Jiggles]

He hasn't been on the site since July 18th. RIP @robertkh100

[I'm Fred]

Robertkh100

Originally Posted by Jiggles

He hasn't been on the site since July 18th. RIP @robertkh100

hahahha! He's most likely in the hospital. Did he state if he wears gear?

[7oxSin]

NOOOO!! Oh well I call dibs on his old bikes :P
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[robertkh100]

Originally Posted by codestp202

hahahha! He's most likely in the hospital. Did he state if he wears gear?

atgatt

[lgk]

I'm glad your ok, hows it going with the zx14 ninja?

[Sigma.40]

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

Anything more expensive than the 250 and I'd be flat broke. Tires for larger bikes wear out much faster and cost a lot more, you'll use more gas/higher octane which costs a lot more, maintenance intervals are much more often and more intensive on a larger bike compared to the 250. Unless you are prepared to work on a super sport (you aren't, you will **** everything up to holy high hell and have a bike totaled by your incompetence) by yourself you're going to be paying OUT THE ASS to bring it to a dealer to have it serviced. On a 250 you can let certain maintenance intervals stretch more miles. On a super sport bike not following the maintenance guidelines laid out by the manufacturer can cost you your life. Insurance for a super sport you DEFINITELY cannot afford. .

Originally Posted by espacef1fan

Power and power delivery arent the ONLY issues with a supersport/bigger/heavier/more powerful bike......


-The brakes. Holy **** ...any proper sull on sportbike has very sensitive and powerful brakes....really easy to lock the front tire in a panic or lowside while learning trail braking...


Maintainance.

Chains will tolerate more asshattery on a lower power bike such as neglect. So you will generally sport a problem with your poor maintainance schedule before it causes a wreck.
The same is true for other stuff maintaince wise...

Off topic- How would all that maintenence stuff compare to a large cruiser? Looking at getting either a 1500cc Vulcan or, if I can find one, a 1900cc Stratoliner soon (in addition to the Ninja) for better travelling and 2 up riding.

EDIT- I'm aware its a Ninja 250 forum but this thread reminded me that I was curious about this so I'm hoping someone knows.

[C L]

Troll or not, you guys are being awfully rude

[backinthesaddleagain]

Busa or bust

[lgk]

Originally Posted by C L

Troll or not, you guys are being awfully rude

Its the only way to get through to a stubborn person

[dirty nasty]

Originally Posted by lgk

Its the only way to get through to a stubborn person

This is fact. Have you ever tried dealing with a 15 year old?

[Sigma.40]

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

This is fact. Have you ever tried dealing with a 15 year old?

I'm finding it hard to believe he's 15. With all of the Repooblik of Kalifornia's stupid laws and restrictions, can you really get a license and motorcycle endorsement at 15?

[Racer x]

I find the whole thing a bit off.
Why would someone come on a bike forum and knock the bike. Then brag about how skilled and smart he is and how much money he has if he was not just trolling for attention ?
What do you want Robert? Do you want us to agree running a yellow light into the side of a car was not your fault?
Do you want us to tell you the bigger bike will be much better safer than the 250? What? You wrecked your 250 and don't want another one . Who cares? Go buy something else be careful. Stop back in and see us.

[wvninjamom]

I've been watching this thread since it started. So...here's where I show my age. As the mother of 7 boys over the age of 22, it's been my experience that he's gonna do what he wants to do. You can preach, lecture, try to lead by example, etc...but he's still gonna do what he wants - 'TIL HE LEARNS THE HARD WAY. Hopefully, he'll be able to walk away from the lesson.

And - if anyone knows how we can get OUR 24 year old to quit riding his R1 in flip flops and shorts, let me know. See what I mean

[Racer x]

Show him a photo of some one with a knee torn off. Just for fun . Congrats on raising 7 boys . WOW

[choneofakind]

Let your son eat sh!t off a bicycle. It will sink in that gear is needed on a motorcycle. Worked for me. (I'm 19 btw)
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[Racer x]

I raced bicycles before motorcycles. Going down in Spandex at 30 mph will definitely teach you what pain is. It is not the pain from hitting the ground. Sure that hurts . But using a brush to scrape gravel and dirt out of an open bleeding wound is when he will need his mommy.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by sigma.40

i'm finding it hard to believe he's 15. With all of the repooblik of kalifornia's stupid laws and restrictions, can you really get a license and motorcycle endorsement at 15?

15 1/2. (permit)

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Racer x

I raced bicycles before motorcycles. Going down in Spandex at 30 mph will definitely teach you what pain is. It is not the pain from hitting the ground. Sure that hurts . But using a brush to scrape gravel and dirt out of an open bleeding wound is when he will need his mommy.

The scraping hurts about the same as the shower next morning.

Safety gear allows a person to enjoy the sport for a longer period of time.
People that truly love what they do will not hesitate to wear it.