How are my chicken strips?

rasta · September 2nd, 2013, 07:43 PM

Panda · September 2nd, 2013, 07:47 PM

Kind of brown.

choneofakind · September 2nd, 2013, 07:58 PM

Don't worry about those things. They're no indication of skill or good riding or bad riding or anything at all for that matter. (but it can be a fun game comparing with other riders, I get that.)

To prove my point, here's me at the track:

Link to original page on YouTube.

Link to original page on YouTube.

and here's my nasty squared off (with bigger chicken strips than yours) rear tire:

See what I mean? I spend a ton of time upright, but I can still drag a knee at speed with okay BP. Chicken strips mean nothing about anything.

Motofool · September 2nd, 2013, 08:17 PM

Don't try leaning excessively on public roads; it is very dangerous !!!

alex.s · September 2nd, 2013, 08:22 PM

front tire chicken strips are a good indication of how firm you get with the bars when leaned all the way over... recently my front tire chicken strips have been getting smaller

i've been getting a bit firm handed recently...

rojoracing53 · September 2nd, 2013, 08:35 PM

Not another chicken strips thread

don't make me spam my skinless strips pic again

JohnnyBravo · September 2nd, 2013, 08:52 PM

Put some hot sauce on em and pass me a plate

Aufitt · September 2nd, 2013, 11:02 PM

Brave riding on Arrowstacks.. there is no worse tyre.. except maybe a Shonkyo.

But yeah.. whats the thread about?

Daks · September 3rd, 2013, 12:05 AM

They look like you try too hard to impress dudes.

Snake · September 3rd, 2013, 12:08 AM

You need to start doing more leaning. Head down to your local track.

subxero · September 3rd, 2013, 06:35 AM

Ive seen this picture on here on this website before somewhere but will never find it so here it is again.

I would rather have chicken strips than ride like this.

Seems like a lot of newer riders make it a point to try and eliminate chicken strips as if it is a tape measure for improvement and or skill.

I am no where close to a vet rider, only been riding on the street for not quite a year yet. 7100 miles, no lay downs of any kind. I still have decent chicken strips maybe 1/2" at a guess? That being said I admit that I generally ride more aggressively than i should for the street and still have big ol chicken strips. So people riding on the street and manage to eliminate the entire strip, I don't know if you are just that good, brave, ignorant, or stupid?

the jury is still out.

posting all of this makes me realize I need to get to a track

Gurk · September 3rd, 2013, 07:24 AM

@Trailerboy531 can tell you about the size of my chicken strips. And I ride A group pace on track. lol
I like to think of them as a nice room for dropping the lap times even more with not too much risk.

rasta · September 3rd, 2013, 08:55 AM

Okay, perhaps I'm putting too much thought into chicken strips lol. Especially since it seems that in order to eliminate them I need to reach a certain amount of lean angle. An angle that really shouldn't be achieved on the street.

csmith12 · September 3rd, 2013, 09:22 AM

Experienced riders don't care. You can drag your elbow and still leave the track with some strip left.

Aufitt · September 3rd, 2013, 09:27 AM

The question you need to ask yourself is why do you care about them.

rasta · September 3rd, 2013, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufitt

The question you need to ask yourself is why do you care about them.

Well when I made the thread, I thought the strips were an indication of my riding skills' progression. Now I realize that's not necessarily the case.

tfkrocks · September 3rd, 2013, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasta

Okay, perhaps I'm putting too much thought into chicken strips lol. Especially since it seems that in order to eliminate them I need to reach a certain amount of lean angle. An angle that really shouldn't be achieved on the street.

It's also easy to increase the lean angle of your bike with the use of bad body positioning, which you don't want. I've definitely done that. Sure, i had almost no chicken strips but I didn't feel good on the bike and ran out of clearance way too quickly. Focus on your riding technique more than on chicken strips.

alex.s · September 3rd, 2013, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurk

@Trailerboy531 can tell you about the size of my chicken strips. And I ride A group pace on track. lol
I like to think of them as a nice room for dropping the lap times even more with not too much risk.

riding in A group, and riding an A group pace is not the same thing.

Alex · September 3rd, 2013, 09:51 AM

choneofakind · September 3rd, 2013, 10:06 AM

Now now boys, play nice.

Trailerboy531 · September 3rd, 2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

riding in A group, and riding an A group pace is not the same thing.

This is true but they seem to go hand in hand quite frequently. Either way the distinction is not important for this thread...

Gurk does ride at an A group pace and has plenty of room left on the sides of his tires. What he's trying to convey is that having or not having chicken strips is not necessarily an accurate gauge of pace and not something to worry about.

csmith12 · September 3rd, 2013, 12:05 PM

@Gurk, not that it matters about strips but do you run a 180 or 190?

Gurk · September 3rd, 2013, 12:16 PM

190

Gurk · September 3rd, 2013, 12:20 PM

@alex.s

how's your couch racing career going?

Gurk · September 3rd, 2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

What he's trying to convey is that having or not having chicken strips is not necessarily an accurate gauge of pace and not something to worry about.

Zactly. thanks.

csmith12 · September 3rd, 2013, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurk

190

Well that is part of the reason you have a bit of strip left, par for course.

alex.s · September 3rd, 2013, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurk

@alex.s

how's your couch racing career going?

do you even lift bro?

Gurk · September 3rd, 2013, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Well that is part of the reason you have a bit of strip left, par for course.

Perhaps. It's a bit tire dependent too I suppose. I was running exact same lap times on 190 Bridgestone Battlax Slicks. I had minimal strips left on those. Right now I'm on Dunlop GPA's

rojoracing53 · September 4th, 2013, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasta

Okay, perhaps I'm putting too much thought into chicken strips lol. Especially since it seems that in order to eliminate them I need to reach a certain amount of lean angle. An angle that really shouldn't be achieved on the street.

I raced for 7 years(6 professionaly) and I didn't learn about chicken strips or counter steering until I bought a ninja 250 and came here, so yeah definitely not an indication of skill.

Jiggles · September 4th, 2013, 09:41 AM

NOMNOMNOM

Alex · September 4th, 2013, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

I raced for 7 years(6 professionaly) and I didn't learn about chicken strips or counter steering until I bought a ninja 250 and came here.

Well I'm glad we were able to set you straight.

Aodrn · September 4th, 2013, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

front tire chicken strips are a good indication of how firm you get with the bars when leaned all the way over... recently my front tire chicken strips have been getting smaller

i've been getting a bit firm handed recently...

I'm curious about this. My front tire always has at least 1/4 inch of strip despite the back being totally used and having sustained dragging of hard parts around corners. I have long thought that my tire wear could shed light on my technique, but my front tire is still holding all its secrets for itself.
Is there a good link for deciphering tire wear as it pertains to technique?

Motofool · September 4th, 2013, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodrn

I'm curious about this. My front tire always has at least 1/4 inch of strip despite the back being totally used and having sustained dragging of hard parts around corners. I have long thought that my tire wear could shed light on my technique, but my front tire is still holding all its secrets for itself.
Is there a good link for deciphering tire wear as it pertains to technique?

That is only normal, Ryan.

Being thinner, the front tire round section has a smaller radius than the rear tire.
Both leaning the same angle, the edge of the rear is reached sooner than the edge of the front.
In addition, the front tire leans a little less than the rear for some rotation of the handlebar during steering, due to the geometry of the steering-suspension.

As I understand it, Alex's statement explains that a steady steering input along the turns leave a more defined transition line between both zones.
An incorrect nervous steering (constant over and under steering) tends to reduce a little that front strip and to make the transition more blurry.

..........or so I believe.

Aodrn · September 4th, 2013, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

That is only normal, Ryan.

Being thinner, the front tire round section has a smaller radius than the rear tire.
Both leaning the same angle, the edge of the rear is reached sooner than the edge of the front.
In addition, the front tire leans a little less than the rear for some rotation of the handlebar during steering, due to the geometry of the steering-suspension.

As I understand it, Alex's statement explains that a steady steering input along the turns leave a more defined transition line between both zones.
An incorrect nervous steering (constant over and under steering) tends to reduce a little that front strip and to make the transition more blurry.

..........or so I believe.

Makes perfect sense now that you spelled it out. Thanks

Asspire · September 4th, 2013, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda

Kind of brown.

does he even wipe bro?

Motofool · September 5th, 2013, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodrn

Makes perfect sense now that you spelled it out. Thanks

You are welcome

Not the link you asked for, but here is an interesting read that complements my previous over-simplified explanation:

http://www.dinamoto.it/dinamoto/8_on...umatii_eng.htm

September 2nd, 2013, 07:43 PM	#1
rasta Your face Name: Wes Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Honda CBR650f Posts: A lot.	How are my chicken strips?

September 2nd, 2013, 07:47 PM	#2
Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Kind of brown.
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September 2nd, 2013, 07:58 PM	#3
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Don't worry about those things. They're no indication of skill or good riding or bad riding or anything at all for that matter. (but it can be a fun game comparing with other riders, I get that.) To prove my point, here's me at the track: Link to original page on YouTube. Link to original page on YouTube. and here's my nasty squared off (with bigger chicken strips than yours) rear tire: See what I mean? I spend a ton of time upright, but I can still drag a knee at speed with okay BP. Chicken strips mean nothing about anything.
	2 out of 2 members found this post helpful.

September 2nd, 2013, 08:17 PM	#4
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	Don't try leaning excessively on public roads; it is very dangerous !!! __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

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alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	front tire chicken strips are a good indication of how firm you get with the bars when leaned all the way over... recently my front tire chicken strips have been getting smaller i've been getting a bit firm handed recently... __________________________________________________

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September 2nd, 2013, 11:02 PM	#8
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	Brave riding on Arrowstacks.. there is no worse tyre.. except maybe a Shonkyo. But yeah.. whats the thread about?

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September 3rd, 2013, 07:24 AM	#12
Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	@Trailerboy531 can tell you about the size of my chicken strips. And I ride A group pace on track. lol I like to think of them as a nice room for dropping the lap times even more with not too much risk.

September 3rd, 2013, 08:55 AM	#13
rasta Your face Name: Wes Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Honda CBR650f Posts: A lot.	Okay, perhaps I'm putting too much thought into chicken strips lol. Especially since it seems that in order to eliminate them I need to reach a certain amount of lean angle. An angle that really shouldn't be achieved on the street.

September 3rd, 2013, 09:22 AM	#14
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September 3rd, 2013, 09:27 AM	#15
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	The question you need to ask yourself is why do you care about them.

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September 3rd, 2013, 12:05 PM	#22
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	@Gurk, not that it matters about strips but do you run a 180 or 190? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	190

September 3rd, 2013, 12:20 PM	#24
Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	@alex.s how's your couch racing career going?

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