Question about 1st gear ninja 250

Z300 · August 4th, 2012, 03:13 AM

Is it bad to rev to much on the first gear like up to 6000-7000rpm,
or should i just change from 1st to 2nd asap?

what rpm should i change from 1st to 2nd

because in traffic i find my self going really slow

Mountain Dew · August 4th, 2012, 03:19 AM

In traffic I stayed in 2nd unless I came to a complete stop (sometimes. Just needs a bit more gas to take off in 2nd). If I was going to be going higher than 2nd, I'd usually run it up to about 15mph (probably 10k?) before upshifting.

Z300 · August 4th, 2012, 03:22 AM

so only use the 1st gear to get moving and shift to 2nd asap?

mariorivera830 · August 4th, 2012, 03:24 AM

I haven't been riding that long either, but when I learned to drive stick, that was the general rule my dad taught me. As long as you're moving use second. Just use a little more clutch and throttle.

As far as shifting out of first, I think it's a matter of how you're riding. Personally, If I'm planning on really opening it up, I won't shift until 9or 10k. But if I'm just cruising I might shift to second at around 6 or 7k.
I think there is something about the shift schedule in the manual too.

Z300 · August 4th, 2012, 03:29 AM

YEAH IM A NOOB
when moving off lights i rev to much

Motofool · August 4th, 2012, 06:01 AM

Welcome to the site, Yas !!

You can extend the first gear as long as you want up to 10,000 rpm.

With more practice, you will find the sweet spot to change each gear, which also changes with the rate of acceleration that you want for any specific moment.

If you need explosive acceleration, you will need keeping rpm's high.
If you are giving a girl a ride, you can keep the rpm's low.

Check this thread for examples of explosive acceleration:

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99216

Alex · August 4th, 2012, 09:11 AM

/moved to riding skills

Bill N · August 20th, 2012, 01:52 PM

Got a laugh about "explosive accereration". I've never experienced that on a 250. Back to the original post, the stock new gen in my opinion has an almost useless first gear. For normal driving I short shift out of it at around 6-7,000 RPM. 2nd is better but I usually short shift it too. If I were in a drag race I'd probaly come close to red line in all gears but it almost feels silly in
1rst and 2nd..
Once in third the bike comes alive and if you want to take it to red line it "feels" like that's what's needed for max performance. I love the new gen 250 but don't like stock gearing. I might not change it tho as I have other bikes that truely have "explosive acceleration".
Just a note. Videos showing acceleration test showed driveways, mailboxes and traffic. not a great place to do acceleration test. Best wishes, Bill

choneofakind · August 20th, 2012, 05:52 PM

I laughed a little at the "explosive acceleration" as well

then I saw my thread and laughed a little harder

it is possible to wheelie these things, but idk about explosive acceleration (just teasing you here Hernan

)

seriously though, take 1st as high as you wish. But for normal city traffic at a sane pace, 6-7k is a fine pace to shift. Heading up to 12k in 1st is just asking for some attention from the 5-0. If I'm slowing without stopping, I use 2nd and slip the clutch a little more to keep things smooth.

dcx4610 · August 22nd, 2012, 07:26 AM

1st gear is pretty rough and jumpy on the 250. I get into 2nd ASAP. 1st is only good if you are going extremely slow. Like walking pace in a parking lot.

mrcrunch · August 22nd, 2012, 08:15 AM

No one has mentioned what I observe. Some have indirectly.

For me, shift RPM is directly proportional to throttle position. At WOT, i red line each gear until I reach my target speed. At granny commuting throttle position (about 25%), I shift at 8k (maybe earlier in 1st) and try and keep the rpms between 5 and 8. For any in betweens, the shift rpm increases proportionally.

High RPMS sound strained to me if the throttle position isn't right, I wouldn't cruise in 1st or 2nd gear over 7k rpms. In fact, the only time I maintain high rpms is on the freeway because 6th gear is geared that way.

azimmer11 · August 22nd, 2012, 08:19 AM

I always shift at redline

choneofakind · August 22nd, 2012, 10:41 AM

Also, general note:

This site is specifically for the 250. There is no need to put "ninja 250" randomly in the title. The whole forum is about 250's!

Z300 · September 1st, 2012, 06:09 AM

after about a month of riding iv started to get way better already done like 1k this month

just got to rev it hard and your good to go

Motofool · September 1st, 2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja yas

after about a month of riding iv started to get way better already done like 1k this month

.........

Old Lemon · September 6th, 2012, 09:05 PM

you can hit the rev limiter in any gear, it wont hurt the bike

Z300 · September 6th, 2012, 09:25 PM

I didn't rev to much because of the break in period

choneofakind · September 6th, 2012, 09:35 PM

you post like you're drunk.

menikmati · September 6th, 2012, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

you post like you're drunk.

The Internet, oh, the Internet...

choneofakind · September 7th, 2012, 05:19 AM

Z300 · September 7th, 2012, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

you post like you're drunk.

:'(

oblivion007 · September 7th, 2012, 10:28 AM

personally I shift from 1st -> 2nd anywhere between 4k and 12k rpms haha.
Mostly it matters if the bike is cold or not. When its warm I probably shift up after 6-7k and if its cold between 4-7k.

Not sure why or how I came about picking up this habit.

samanamsonite · January 14th, 2014, 09:37 AM

fwiw... i had a track day with ridesmart a little over a year ago and the lead instructor, randy, raced ninja 250's. and he taught me this neat trick that's essentially a quick shifter, but it also may not be entirely "good" for your engine and its a little excessive for street riding. But if you keep your foot sort of weighting the shift lever LIGHTLY (dont stand on it) then just keep reving up and when it hits the rev limiter itll cut the gas a little and be like a clutchless upshift and voila

just remember to release once it does shift.

csmith12 · January 14th, 2014, 09:44 AM

Welcome Sam!
Many of us clutchless upshift but then again, many of us race too. Once your pretty good at it, it transfers over to street riding for some.

The answer of when to shift is one of 3 possibilities.

1. You hit redline
2. You start to attract the attention of the po po
3. Your personal comfort or preference

JohnnyBravo · January 14th, 2014, 09:58 AM

I'm still Leary of this clutch less shifting... One day folks... One day

Sometimes I shift early, sometimes late.

I like this non explosive 250/300 buisness this had to be before peanut almost looped his bike on the starting line, and what about racerX ... Maybe your right, I haven't seen anyone's bike explode while accelerating yet

EsrTek · January 14th, 2014, 10:06 AM

I tended to rev 1st gear out to redline, if not pinging off rev limiter.
Probably not great for the bike, but at the time, was only way I could get front off the ground

JohnnyBravo · January 14th, 2014, 10:13 AM

what

said

cbinker · January 14th, 2014, 10:31 AM

Clutchless up shifting is a refined skill that takes time to learn, sadly my upshifts usually suck do to angle of shifter and size of my feet + lack of flexibility.

notsofast · January 14th, 2014, 05:04 PM

I still get a bit of a lurch as well!

choneofakind · January 14th, 2014, 10:27 PM

^^ Work on the timing of your throttle chop and your shifter bump. It should feel like a smooth continuation of power from one gear to the next. When you do it right, it feels like the only thing that changes is the sound of the engine, no jerk.

CycleCam303 · January 14th, 2014, 10:46 PM

Today I was clutch less shifting up and down. Just remember when the throttled gets closed you can grab a gear. And yes if you just bang down and blip the throttle it will shift down smoothly. That's a trick I learned doing dirt track.

JohnnyBravo · January 15th, 2014, 06:29 AM

Thanks for the help y'all... I'm sure my thoughts will unpetrfy one of these days and I will try it... I still don't even do it in the dodge, although I have once or twice by accident

Boom King · January 15th, 2014, 07:51 AM

It's smoother doing clutch less once you get passed second gear. The throttle feels like an on/off switch if you're doing it right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

...no jerk.

It's all in the wrist

ally99 · January 15th, 2014, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

I'm still Leary of this clutch less shifting... One day folks... One day

Sometimes I shift early, sometimes late.

I like this non explosive 250/300 buisness this had to be before peanut almost looped his bike on the starting line, and what about racerX ... Maybe your right, I haven't seen anyone's bike explode while accelerating yet

Lee Parks recommends clutchless. I use it often. When done properly, it's better for your bike and saves you some clutch life! Improperly though, you run the risk of hurting your tranny over time.

JohnnyBravo · January 15th, 2014, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

Lee Parks recommends clutchless. I use it often. When done properly, it's better for your bike and saves you some clutch life! Improperly though, you run the risk of hurting your tranny over time.

That's why I wanna be sure I get it right when I get to it

oblivion007 · January 15th, 2014, 09:39 AM

I like the first gear now. I used to shift at around 5-7k rpm due to some warmup/fuel-economy reasons. But since I've got a 650 going back to the 250 I like to revv it out to 10k+ rpms before shifting because its fun. I feel as long as the engine is nicely warmed up take it anywhere in the rpm range as you like.

Sirref · January 15th, 2014, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CycleCam303

Today I was clutch less shifting up and down. Just remember when the throttled gets closed you can grab a gear. And yes if you just bang down and blip the throttle it will shift down smoothly. That's a trick I learned doing dirt track.

I've done clutchless up and regularly do it in the rain to free up my "windshield wiper" left hand but I've never tried down. how would you say the timing should be for blipping the throttle, usually I do it at the same time but that's with the clutch engaged and I'd rather not try it clutchless without more knowledge. that said I do need to work on my clutchless upshift from 1st to 2nd and keeping the front wheel on the ground hahaha.

on topic, Usually I just rev it out in 1st gear and shift up near redline unless I'm stuck behind a car or the popo are nearby. I'm usually only in 1st if I'm going down a gravel road/driveway or at a stop so revving it high isn't a problem to me if I'm taking off, the acceleration is fun and you can pin it without worry of flipping it or pulling a wheelie unless your shifting isn't up to par (like mine xD)

CycleCam303 · January 15th, 2014, 11:23 AM

I've never really thought about it. On the dirt bike you get off the throttle and just bang down. You dump the clutch at the start and really don't touch it unless your backing it in or fanning it exiting a corner.

If I don't want the rear end to step out I think I'm just off the throttle and when I bang down I blip the throttle to rev match. That's what works on the ninjette. You can actually help it be completely seamless. Stay on the throttle. Bang down/let off and blip and that's it

ally99 · January 15th, 2014, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

That's why I wanna be sure I get it right when I get to it

It's not like you're gonna send your tranny to hell with a mishap or two. You have to be willing to practice it to ever get it right.

It's worth it to me. I use clutchless for about 60% of my upshifts.

JohnnyBravo · January 15th, 2014, 05:45 PM

@ally99 lemme watch a video and hit the street again... I will let ya know how it goes... 60%?

August 4th, 2012, 03:13 AM	#1
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	Question about 1st gear ninja 250 Is it bad to rev to much on the first gear like up to 6000-7000rpm, or should i just change from 1st to 2nd asap? what rpm should i change from 1st to 2nd because in traffic i find my self going really slow Last futzed with by Z300; September 7th, 2012 at 07:19 AM.

August 4th, 2012, 03:19 AM	#2
Mountain Dew Ambrosia. Name: Jaymie Location: Oahu, Hawaii Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1974 Honda CB550K0 W.I.P. Posts: A lot.	In traffic I stayed in 2nd unless I came to a complete stop (sometimes. Just needs a bit more gas to take off in 2nd). If I was going to be going higher than 2nd, I'd usually run it up to about 15mph (probably 10k?) before upshifting. __________________________________________________ Life's better on the Mountain.

August 4th, 2012, 03:29 AM	#5
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	YEAH IM A NOOB when moving off lights i rev to much Last futzed with by Z300; September 7th, 2012 at 07:18 AM.

August 4th, 2012, 06:01 AM	#6
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	Welcome to the site, Yas !! You can extend the first gear as long as you want up to 10,000 rpm. With more practice, you will find the sweet spot to change each gear, which also changes with the rate of acceleration that you want for any specific moment. If you need explosive acceleration, you will need keeping rpm's high. If you are giving a girl a ride, you can keep the rpm's low. Check this thread for examples of explosive acceleration: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99216 __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

August 4th, 2012, 09:11 AM	#7
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August 4th, 2012, 03:22 AM	#3
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	so only use the 1st gear to get moving and shift to 2nd asap?

August 4th, 2012, 03:24 AM	#4
mariorivera830 MoVal's only ninjette :( Name: Mario Location: Moreno Valley, Ca Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r SE Black with a dash of yellow Posts: 120	I haven't been riding that long either, but when I learned to drive stick, that was the general rule my dad taught me. As long as you're moving use second. Just use a little more clutch and throttle. As far as shifting out of first, I think it's a matter of how you're riding. Personally, If I'm planning on really opening it up, I won't shift until 9or 10k. But if I'm just cruising I might shift to second at around 6 or 7k. I think there is something about the shift schedule in the manual too.

August 20th, 2012, 01:52 PM	#8
Bill N ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: Tampa Fl Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 250 Ninja Posts: 180	Got a laugh about "explosive accereration". I've never experienced that on a 250. Back to the original post, the stock new gen in my opinion has an almost useless first gear. For normal driving I short shift out of it at around 6-7,000 RPM. 2nd is better but I usually short shift it too. If I were in a drag race I'd probaly come close to red line in all gears but it almost feels silly in 1rst and 2nd.. Once in third the bike comes alive and if you want to take it to red line it "feels" like that's what's needed for max performance. I love the new gen 250 but don't like stock gearing. I might not change it tho as I have other bikes that truely have "explosive acceleration". Just a note. Videos showing acceleration test showed driveways, mailboxes and traffic. not a great place to do acceleration test. Best wishes, Bill

August 20th, 2012, 05:52 PM	#9
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I laughed a little at the "explosive acceleration" as well then I saw my thread and laughed a little harder it is possible to wheelie these things, but idk about explosive acceleration (just teasing you here Hernan ) seriously though, take 1st as high as you wish. But for normal city traffic at a sane pace, 6-7k is a fine pace to shift. Heading up to 12k in 1st is just asking for some attention from the 5-0. If I'm slowing without stopping, I use 2nd and slip the clutch a little more to keep things smooth.

August 22nd, 2012, 07:26 AM	#10
dcx4610 ninjette.org member Name: Daniel Location: Nashville Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 25	1st gear is pretty rough and jumpy on the 250. I get into 2nd ASAP. 1st is only good if you are going extremely slow. Like walking pace in a parking lot.

August 22nd, 2012, 08:15 AM	#11
mrcrunch ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: wixom MI Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 250r Posts: 54	No one has mentioned what I observe. Some have indirectly. For me, shift RPM is directly proportional to throttle position. At WOT, i red line each gear until I reach my target speed. At granny commuting throttle position (about 25%), I shift at 8k (maybe earlier in 1st) and try and keep the rpms between 5 and 8. For any in betweens, the shift rpm increases proportionally. High RPMS sound strained to me if the throttle position isn't right, I wouldn't cruise in 1st or 2nd gear over 7k rpms. In fact, the only time I maintain high rpms is on the freeway because 6th gear is geared that way.

August 22nd, 2012, 08:19 AM	#12
azimmer11 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: michigan Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 784	I always shift at redline

August 22nd, 2012, 10:41 AM	#13
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Also, general note: This site is specifically for the 250. There is no need to put "ninja 250" randomly in the title. The whole forum is about 250's!

September 1st, 2012, 06:09 AM	#14
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	after about a month of riding iv started to get way better already done like 1k this month just got to rev it hard and your good to go

September 6th, 2012, 09:05 PM	#16
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	you can hit the rev limiter in any gear, it wont hurt the bike

September 6th, 2012, 09:25 PM	#17
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	I didn't rev to much because of the break in period Last futzed with by Z300; September 7th, 2012 at 07:17 AM.

September 6th, 2012, 09:35 PM	#18
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	you post like you're drunk.

September 7th, 2012, 05:19 AM	#20
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14

September 7th, 2012, 10:28 AM	#22
oblivion007 "scandal!" Name: Adan Location: Somewhere Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R(Crashed 2/26/2014), 09 ER6n Posts: 660	personally I shift from 1st -> 2nd anywhere between 4k and 12k rpms haha. Mostly it matters if the bike is cold or not. When its warm I probably shift up after 6-7k and if its cold between 4-7k. Not sure why or how I came about picking up this habit.

January 14th, 2014, 09:37 AM	#23
samanamsonite not a drag racer Name: sam Location: d/fw texas Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250(faster than jiggles) Posts: 1	fwiw... i had a track day with ridesmart a little over a year ago and the lead instructor, randy, raced ninja 250's. and he taught me this neat trick that's essentially a quick shifter, but it also may not be entirely "good" for your engine and its a little excessive for street riding. But if you keep your foot sort of weighting the shift lever LIGHTLY (dont stand on it) then just keep reving up and when it hits the rev limiter itll cut the gas a little and be like a clutchless upshift and voila just remember to release once it does shift. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it

January 14th, 2014, 09:44 AM	#24
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Welcome Sam! Many of us clutchless upshift but then again, many of us race too. Once your pretty good at it, it transfers over to street riding for some. The answer of when to shift is one of 3 possibilities. 1. You hit redline 2. You start to attract the attention of the po po 3. Your personal comfort or preference __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 14th, 2014, 09:58 AM	#25
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I'm still Leary of this clutch less shifting... One day folks... One day Sometimes I shift early, sometimes late. I like this non explosive 250/300 buisness this had to be before peanut almost looped his bike on the starting line, and what about racerX ... Maybe your right, I haven't seen anyone's bike explode while accelerating yet __________________________________________________

January 14th, 2014, 10:06 AM	#26
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	I tended to rev 1st gear out to redline, if not pinging off rev limiter. Probably not great for the bike, but at the time, was only way I could get front off the ground

January 14th, 2014, 10:13 AM	#27
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	what said __________________________________________________

January 14th, 2014, 10:31 AM	#28
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	Clutchless up shifting is a refined skill that takes time to learn, sadly my upshifts usually suck do to angle of shifter and size of my feet + lack of flexibility. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

January 14th, 2014, 05:04 PM	#29
notsofast ninjette.org member Name: Jon Location: California Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Ninja 250 Posts: 151	I still get a bit of a lurch as well!

January 14th, 2014, 10:27 PM	#30
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	^^ Work on the timing of your throttle chop and your shifter bump. It should feel like a smooth continuation of power from one gear to the next. When you do it right, it feels like the only thing that changes is the sound of the engine, no jerk.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

January 14th, 2014, 10:46 PM	#31
CycleCam303 King Hamfist Name: Cameron Location: NorCal East Bay Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Crf 150R, 2011 Hypermotard 796 Posts: 940	Today I was clutch less shifting up and down. Just remember when the throttled gets closed you can grab a gear. And yes if you just bang down and blip the throttle it will shift down smoothly. That's a trick I learned doing dirt track.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

January 15th, 2014, 06:29 AM	#32
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Thanks for the help y'all... I'm sure my thoughts will unpetrfy one of these days and I will try it... I still don't even do it in the dodge, although I have once or twice by accident __________________________________________________

January 15th, 2014, 09:39 AM	#36
oblivion007 "scandal!" Name: Adan Location: Somewhere Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R(Crashed 2/26/2014), 09 ER6n Posts: 660	I like the first gear now. I used to shift at around 5-7k rpm due to some warmup/fuel-economy reasons. But since I've got a 650 going back to the 250 I like to revv it out to 10k+ rpms before shifting because its fun. I feel as long as the engine is nicely warmed up take it anywhere in the rpm range as you like.

January 15th, 2014, 11:23 AM	#38
CycleCam303 King Hamfist Name: Cameron Location: NorCal East Bay Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Crf 150R, 2011 Hypermotard 796 Posts: 940	I've never really thought about it. On the dirt bike you get off the throttle and just bang down. You dump the clutch at the start and really don't touch it unless your backing it in or fanning it exiting a corner. If I don't want the rear end to step out I think I'm just off the throttle and when I bang down I blip the throttle to rev match. That's what works on the ninjette. You can actually help it be completely seamless. Stay on the throttle. Bang down/let off and blip and that's it

January 15th, 2014, 05:45 PM	#40
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	@ally99 lemme watch a video and hit the street again... I will let ya know how it goes... 60%? __________________________________________________

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