Ninja 300 crashes twice

cadd · September 18th, 2014, 04:16 PM

Found this on youtube.

xorbe · September 18th, 2014, 04:23 PM

Link to original thread "over there"

www dot kawasaki ninja 300 dot com/forum/63-crash-boom-bang/68193-my-weekly-crash-report.html

Wow it's a banned link

Klondike1020 · September 18th, 2014, 06:15 PM

куда он делся . Я не знаю . Ему повезло

Thats an awesome video

subxero · September 19th, 2014, 06:06 AM

0:43s he picks that bike up like it is a plastic toy

I guess I have never had to pick my bike up from being laid down so IDK, but I wouldn't envision myself doing it so easily and I don't consider myself weak by any means.

salcuta88 · September 19th, 2014, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Klondike1020

куда он делся . Я не знаю . Ему повезло

Thats an awesome video

Lol!

Русский?

srob7001 · September 19th, 2014, 07:17 AM

Any ideas as to what he did wrong when going off the road in the 2nd crash? Not enough lean angle? Apply brakes mid turn? Trying to understand why he didn't make that turn...didn't seem to be going that fast.

csmith12 · September 19th, 2014, 07:26 AM

^^^ Target fixation

subxero · September 19th, 2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by srob7001

Any ideas as to what he did wrong when going off the road in the 2nd crash? Not enough lean angle? Apply brakes mid turn? Trying to understand why he didn't make that turn...didn't seem to be going that fast.

In the mess of a thread that is on the 300 forum if you get past the "bad steering bearings" BS the rider actually does some detective work and points out some things that you might miss watching the video that all add up to the end result.

Look at BP in all turns up to the crash including the crash turn. You can't really see his BP but you can see where he is looking and where his head is, it says a lot.

In all the other turns it would seem he gets a little off the bike and pulls his upper body down and off the bike a bit into the turn, which I think not only helps the bike physically, it helps you mentally commit to a turn a little more, IDK, this just gets you set up nice and solid and you feel like you are on more of a rail. (<--that's how I feel anyway) In the crash turn, he never really does this and never really commits, his camera view makes it look like he definitely target fixed, he looks crossed up, never got his upper body and head down and into the turn like prior turns.

In short he half assed the biggest turn of the whole riding clip, once he realizes he underestimated the turn and didn't give it the respect it deserved, he gets scared and decides he doesn't want to turn anymore.

That's my take, but in the end just another Monday morning QB

BlownWideOpen · September 19th, 2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by subxero

0:43s he picks that bike up like it is a plastic toy

I guess I have never had to pick my bike up from being laid down so IDK, but I wouldn't envision myself doing it so easily and I don't consider myself weak by any means.

It's a pretty light bike, I can do the same w mine if I ever drop it lol

allanoue · September 19th, 2014, 07:55 AM

He got scared and froze up

Alex · September 19th, 2014, 08:51 AM

He was behind the bike for a number of the turns prior to running off the road; turning in early and then having the line run wide as he either isn't comfortable enough or isn't able to turn the bike properly. It came to a head on the sharpest turn while he was still going the same speed. Aside from any BP issues, I'd put it down to not understanding how to give proper steering inputs. MSF? Any other training or guidance other than a recommendation for steering head bearings over there?

alex.s · September 19th, 2014, 03:33 PM

heyyyyy! i know that road! it's literally just a couple miles from my family house. i could not count how many time's i've been on that exact spot. that road is the 78 east of esco just past the valley part. leads up to banner grade... he calls it banner grade but that isn't banner grade yet. he crashed on one of the few decreasers. simply scared himself and decided to crash the bike. the parking lot crash was a combination not enough speed, not enough throttle, too much weight on the bars. it's an unfortunately dangerous road. i have known more than one person to over-cook it on that road and slide off down the cliff. my old best friends' brothers' best friend drove his integra off just a little ways down that road going the opposite direction... he didn't make it, but the 3 passengers were okay. you would think they would put a ****ing gaurd rail on that ****.

NevadaWolf · September 19th, 2014, 04:00 PM

Light bike or not, that was still an impressive pick up.

Anytime I go around a corner like that, this tiny little voice is annoyingly asking "What if?" as I see it go by in the cornerr of my eye. Now that voice has a visual to add to the nagging worry.

Lovely.

allanoue · September 19th, 2014, 04:45 PM

This is what I imagine, and every now and again see, around blind corners.

Klondike1020 · September 19th, 2014, 05:09 PM

gotta love the Amish. they sure do know how to obstruct a highway that they don't pay taxes to use!

I love mud and horse scat

Hero Danny · September 19th, 2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

you would think they would put a ****ing gaurd rail on that ****.

+1

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Light bike or not, that was still an impressive pick up.

If I drop/crash my bike and am fine, etc. Chances are I will be so pissed with adrenaline pumping where i'd pick the bike up too. Impressive to say the least, but I know if it were me i'd pick the thing up quick like he did too. Adrenaline does that to you.

Sirref · September 19th, 2014, 07:35 PM

god these bikes are like tanks, I'm shocked how little damage there appeared to be from going off a cliff. Though it did only slide on the ground for the most part.

I'd likely have been riding the road at a similar pace except with the knowledge that I can go faster if I want to. Doesn't feel like he knew the road well though since he scared himself on a decreasing radius that he could have totally made it through by leaning the bike a little bit more and leaning with it but his bp and lack of comfort with the bike/road really hurt him. You can see where he thought "**** I've crashed" and it feels almost as though he decided to crash rather than try to make it out of fear. I don't understand that logic though, why decide to crash when you have a very real chance to make it? I mean the worst that can happen is you crash anyway but by going for it you aren't necessarily going to

subxero · September 20th, 2014, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

This is what I imagine, and every now and again see, around blind corners.

Don't forget this as well Al, but on a much narrower road

Xtina · September 22nd, 2014, 12:40 PM

His thread was full of fail on the 300 forum. After that first crash and how lucky he was he shouldn't be so boastful about crashing constantly.

CZroe · October 8th, 2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Light bike or not, that was still an impressive pick up...

I dunno. I would've liked to have seen him immediately use the engine cut-off switch like he should have.

September 18th, 2014, 04:16 PM	#1
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	Ninja 300 crashes twice Found this on youtube. Link to original page on YouTube.

September 18th, 2014, 06:15 PM	#3
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subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	0:43s he picks that bike up like it is a plastic toy I guess I have never had to pick my bike up from being laid down so IDK, but I wouldn't envision myself doing it so easily and I don't consider myself weak by any means. __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

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September 19th, 2014, 07:55 AM	#10
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September 18th, 2014, 04:23 PM	#2
xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	Link to original thread "over there" www dot kawasaki ninja 300 dot com/forum/63-crash-boom-bang/68193-my-weekly-crash-report.html Wow it's a banned link

September 19th, 2014, 07:17 AM	#6
srob7001 ninjette.org member Name: Sean Location: FL Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300, Ebony, non-ABS Posts: 18	Any ideas as to what he did wrong when going off the road in the 2nd crash? Not enough lean angle? Apply brakes mid turn? Trying to understand why he didn't make that turn...didn't seem to be going that fast.

September 19th, 2014, 08:51 AM	#11
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September 19th, 2014, 03:33 PM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	heyyyyy! i know that road! it's literally just a couple miles from my family house. i could not count how many time's i've been on that exact spot. that road is the 78 east of esco just past the valley part. leads up to banner grade... he calls it banner grade but that isn't banner grade yet. he crashed on one of the few decreasers. simply scared himself and decided to crash the bike. the parking lot crash was a combination not enough speed, not enough throttle, too much weight on the bars. it's an unfortunately dangerous road. i have known more than one person to over-cook it on that road and slide off down the cliff. my old best friends' brothers' best friend drove his integra off just a little ways down that road going the opposite direction... he didn't make it, but the 3 passengers were okay. you would think they would put a **ing gaurd rail on that **. __________________________________________________

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September 22nd, 2014, 12:40 PM	#19
Xtina ninjette.org guru Name: Christina Location: Toronto Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300, 2007 Gsxr 600, R6-sold :( Posts: 270	His thread was full of fail on the 300 forum. After that first crash and how lucky he was he shouldn't be so boastful about crashing constantly.