Handgun Use While Riding

[Liist]

I know this is very Hollywood, but I've always been intrigued by combining my love for guns with riding. There might be a time and place to use it, especially for motorcycle cops. Do motorcycle cops even receive such training?

I think it's best that I learn one-handed shooting, especially with my left hand. I think it's also a good idea to carry two handguns, in case you have to defend yourself at a red light when the left hand is on the clutch.

One time in the middle of the night I had to bail at a red light because a homeless guy was approaching me and yelling at me for something. If there was traffic at the intersection, I would be forced to draw.

I'll let you guys know how it turns out when I get more range time and get my CCW permit.

In the meantime, do any of you carry while riding and have you done any actual training to shoot while riding?

[Jiggles]

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...ight=pack+heat

[Jiggles]

At some point I'm going to stop searching for you

[Liist]

I looked through that thread and a few others. I just want specific techniques and tactics for shooting while riding, not a head count of who packs heat.

For example, could I use the choke to keep the throttle up for a low speed pass-through? I would be much more comfortable using my right hand for the trigger and not the throttle.

What's your experiences for drawing and holstering with an IWB holster while riding? I think holstering would be a bitch.

I should also be practicing reloading drills. That presents a whole different challenge!

[Jiggles]

I think the real question is why would you ever need to.

And also Car beats Gun

[rusninja]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I think the real question is why would you ever need to.

And also Car beats Gun

bullet to the head beats everyone.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by rusninja

bullet to the head beats everyone.

Oh, yea, that's easy to do one handed on a motorcycle at a target obstructed by a car. Actually I did it yesterday, old bitch tried to merge into my lane and I said "NAH UH!" Blasted her in the face, brain splatter everywhere, caused a 19 car pile up, but I will not be pushed out of my lane

[Liist]

Damn, you're pretty good. I figured at least gun shots would scare them back into their lanes, but it's always better to hit your target. On a long trip, this could happen multiple times, and if you're as trigger happy as I am, there's going to be an occasion where you'll have to reload, preferably without losing the empty magazine.

[Alex]

[Liist]

It makes so much more sense to get a Gold Wing and a passenger. The raised passenger seat would allow excellent space for him/her to do shooting with long guns, not to mention being able to reload your handgun for you.

Also with cruise control, right handed firing with ease!

It would make life so much easier!

[rusninja]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Oh, yea, that's easy to do one handed on a motorcycle at a target obstructed by a car. Actually I did it yesterday, old bitch tried to merge into my lane and I said "NAH UH!" Blasted her in the face, brain splatter everywhere, caused a 19 car pile up, but I will not be pushed out of my lane

Its a kill or be killed world you gotta do what you gotta do playa XD jk

[akima]

Originally Posted by Liist

I know this is very Hollywood, but

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88006

[paulforaname]

just mount a mini gun to the handlebars and get a HID on your helmet visor with eye activated targeting and rig up a trigger on the throttle then some heat seeking missiles mounted on both sides of your bike. That i'll do the trick , and by the way, whats with yanks and guns??

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by paulforaname

just mount a mini gun to the handlebars and get a HID on your helmet visor with eye activated targeting and rig up a trigger on the throttle then some heat seeking missiles mounted on both sides of your bike. That i'll do the trick , and by the way, whats with yanks and guns??

I never owned a gun and yet I understand perfectly well. They freed this country and protect our freedoms. Also, they keep the power in the citizen's hands to avoid even the need for a future revolt.

["A"]

Even though I'm a lefty, no problem shooting with my clutch hand while riding.

I think a motorcycle is a deadly weapon itself.

If I can't get away from a situation on my morotcycle, I don't think having a gun on the motorcycle is going to help.

[Indy250r]

Perfect opportunity for a left-handed thigh holster!

It's always good to practice shooting with either hand, you never know when one of them will shot or otherwise engaged.

[Indy250r]

Originally Posted by "A"

Even though I'm a lefty, no problem shooting with my clutch hand while riding.

I think a motorcycle is a deadly weapon itself.

If I can't get away from a situation on my morotcycle, I don't think having a gun on the motorcycle is going to help.

This could be you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWqVIdq9NH8

[Numbersix]

I really think this is kind of a silly thread, even though I'm fiercely pro-2a. This is very Hollywood, and not in a good way.

I really don't want to know what sort of drill you'd use to train for accurate fire while moving. As a 2a supporter and rider, I especially don't want to read the media reaction about how your stray shooting killed some kid when you miss your intended target.

If you're stopped, just like in a car, the vast majority of the time your best defense is leaving. If you're concerned about bad wierdness, consider developing some other threat level responses between 'nothing' and 'deadly force.'

I have never heard of a LEO firing from a moving motorcycle. Their best weapon in those cases is called a radio, but they have a lot more armed friends ready to roll then you or I do.

[SteveL]

You could try one of these with a 30 round mag on full auto if you want to attract some attention.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5036/mar202539qk.jpg

Steve

[csmith12]

This thread......

["A"]

Originally Posted by Indy250r

This could be you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWqVIdq9NH8

What, the black guy swinging a crowbar?

I don't see any motorcyclists in the video..

Topic of this thread is: Handgun Use While Riding

What dos that video have to do with the thread topic?

[coondog]

Once trained, you only pull if you're gonna use, period. No ifs ands or buts or Hollywood. If you HAVE to carry a second clip you're not capable, much less trained, in handguns. (not talking LEOs)

[pilotgeorge747]

I think if you going to be going to THAT bad of neighborhoods your better off driving a car or better yet an armored truck. But if you take the bike and get into this type of battle and insist on returning fire rather than simply fleeing on the bike, I'd recommend parking the bike, finding some cover, and returning fire that way. It's better than losing control of the bike and hitting/ being run over by a car or semi truck. Remember you go where you look and in this case you'd be going exactly where you should be trying to avoid.

[Numbersix]

Originally Posted by Liist

I'll let you guys know how it turns out when I get more range time and get my CCW permit.

Liist, assuming your profile is correct, you have a bit of a wait in front of you; my quick look at FL's shall-issue statute requires you be 21.

Originally Posted by Liist

For example, could I use the choke to keep the throttle up for a low speed pass-through? I would be much more comfortable using my right hand for the trigger and not the throttle.

Hrm ... this doesn't read like a defensive shooting situation. Care to enlighten us about what sort of scenario requires a 'low speed pass-through' where you have time to adjust the choke beforehand?

[Jiggles]

You guys are taking him a little too seriously

[Liist]

Originally Posted by Numbersix

Liist, assuming your profile is correct, you have a bit of a wait in front of you; my quick look at FL's shall-issue statute requires you be 21.

Hrm ... this doesn't read like a defensive shooting situation. Care to enlighten us about what sort of scenario requires a 'low speed pass-through' where you have time to adjust the choke beforehand?

I'm perfectly aware of this and that's the first thing I'm going to do on my 21st if the hangover isn't too bad.

I can see such as situation while going through a checkpoint with baddies shooting at me. I really don't see a defensive situation, either, but could be useful.

That and I probably watch too much Fast and Furious movies: http://movieclips.com/7ico-the-fast-...e-by-shooting/

Originally Posted by Jiggles

You guys are taking him a little too seriously

I just wanted a hypothetical discussion. And people who know me know not to ever take me seriously when I'm talking crap in the middle of the night.

BTW, what bikes were the Charlies riding in that movie? Perhaps it's better suited for such tactics than the Ninja 250R.

[Indy250r]

Originally Posted by "A"

What, the black guy swinging a crowbar?

I don't see any motorcyclists in the video..

Topic of this thread is: Handgun Use While Riding

What dos that video have to do with the thread topic?

I knew some Einstein was going to say "I don't see any motorcyclists in the video..".

Let me spell it out for you. If you were trapped in traffic and some goofball decided he was going to pick you at random to beat with a steel rod (you know, like in the video), then a gun (ZOMG!) CARRIED ON A MOTORCYCLE just might save your rear since you wouldn't be wrapped in metal cage like the girl in the video.

I was just trying to fill in the obvious void in your imagination, but I'm sure your super bad-ass riding skills could get you out of any traffic situation.

[kyrider]

I am thinking shotgun instead of handgun. Lots of practice needed though.

["A"]

Originally Posted by Indy250r

I knew some Einstein was going to say "I don't see any motorcyclists in the video..".

Let me spell it out for you. If you were trapped in traffic and some goofball decided he was going to pick you at random to beat with a steel rod (you know, like in the video), then a gun (ZOMG!) CARRIED ON A MOTORCYCLE just might save your rear since you wouldn't be wrapped in metal cage like the girl in the video.

I was just trying to fill in the obvious void in your imagination, but I'm sure your super bad-ass riding skills could get you out of any traffic situation.

Why would a motorcycle be trapped in traffic?

Riding on the sidewalk to avoid violent comfrontation is perfectly fine in my book.

Really, how often do you get anyone to come at you with a steel rod on your motorcycle?

highly unlikely situation like that you wouldn't be able to get away from that person on your motorcycle?

what kind of lame rider are you?

[Liist]

Originally Posted by "A"

Why would a motorcycle be trapped in traffic?

Riding on the sidewalk to avoid violent comfrontation is perfectly fine in my book.

Really, how often do you get anyone to come at you with a steel rod on your motorcycle?

highly unlikely situation like that you wouldn't be able to get away from that person on your motorcycle?

what kind of lame rider are you?

Perhaps the person would also be a threat to other innocent bystanders around you, even if you can get away. Best course of action would be to stand your ground and draw.

I'm thinking of maybe spending a few grand on a fully-automatic MAC-10. It would provide superior suppressing fire on a group of baddies.

[PsychoNinja]

Forget the handguns! I can carry a M60 in each hand and ride at the same time!





Yeah, I'm that good! LOL

["A"]

Originally Posted by Liist

Perhaps the person would also be a threat to other innocent bystanders around you, even if you can get away. Best course of action would be to stand your ground and draw.

I'm thinking of maybe spending a few grand on a fully-automatic MAC-10. It would provide superior suppressing fire on a group of baddies.

While riding a motorcycle and being chased by a man on foot with a metal rod, why would anyone stay around to care about bystanders?
If you are waving a gun in traffic, you become a threat yourself to all bystanders.

Shooting a gun is not a good way to solve any problem, nor should they be valid options to solve problems, as a last resort when all else fail, maybe.

[coondog]

Thats why with over 100 years of service by my closest relatives as LEOs, no gun has ever been pulled. Right/ Ride On bro.

Hell, the other half of my family (mothers) were on the other side of the law and the same thing. Why make a bad situation a lifetime of utter misery.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by coondog

Thats why with over 100 years of service by my closest relatives as LEOs,

Originally Posted by coondog

Hell, the other half of my family (mothers) were on the other side of the law

Sell the reality TV rights to those family reunions, and you can have a different color 250 to ride each day of the week.

[Indy250r]

Originally Posted by N Ja

While riding a motorcycle and being chased by a man on foot with a metal rod, why would anyone stay around to care about bystanders?

Well, we're not all limp wrist-ed p******.

Hey, maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, your attitude of "screw everybody else, as long as I'm ok, that's ok", may be the way to go. Why should I give a crap about anybody but me.

'A', I already acknowledged that your super bad-ass riding skills could get you out of anything, even if you were boxed in the center lane. Hell, I bet you'd just pull a big wheelie and ride over the car in front of you.

As far as the steel rod goes, you're right. Never happened. I photoshopped the whole video. Bad things never happen, especially car/motorcycle jackings, those never happen. But if they did, you'd never be in danger because car/motorcycle jackers are non-violent, mostly misunderstood people. Even if they were violent, which they aren't of course, your safety can't possibly be worth more than the life of a career criminal.

No wonder these threads always go down hill, I keep forgetting that most of the people here are young victims of modern nanny state brain washing.

I have to get off the internet now and go get rid of my guns. I'm just a danger to myself and others for God's sake!

[Clearlynotstefan]

Please tell me this is all one big trolling.

You're telling me a guy with a pipe surrounded by bystanders is LESS dangerous then you FIRING at a guy with a pipe surrounded by bystanders!? WHILE riding a motorcycle!?

Let me also clarify, a homeless man asking you for change, does not warrant deadly force. Not Even CLOSE.
Strange how you survived that incident without having to shoot a homeless man to death isn't it?

I'm not sure how I feel about you even being allowed to own a motorcycle, much less a gun.

[Liist]

I'm not sure if the homeless guy was going to attack or not. He just yelled hey and walked towards me on the street.

And yes, you guys are taking me way too seriously. I wasn't even carrying a gun at that time. I just want to know how to put holes on targets while riding a bike. I should get part of my parents' land paved next to the shooting area.

The discussion was supposed to be centered around discussing shooting on the move techniques and tactics, not arguing over why I should ever pull a gun on a motorcycle.

[Clearlynotstefan]

Originally Posted by Liist

I'm not sure if the homeless guy was going to attack or not. He just yelled hey and walked towards me on the street.

And yes, you guys are taking me way too seriously. I wasn't even carrying a gun at that time. I just want to know how to put holes on targets while riding a bike. I should get part of my parents' land paved next to the shooting area.

The discussion was supposed to be centered around discussing shooting on the move techniques and tactics, not arguing over why I should ever pull a gun on a motorcycle.

You specifically stated had there been traffic, you would draw. That is absurd. Realize that now.

And regarding what you intended for the conversation, it's irrational. I don't mean to sound like a dick, and I'm sure I likely do, but you can't say I need tactics to do something inherently stupid, while ignoring requests for a need to do that stupid thing.

Firing a gun is dangerous, Riding a bike is dangerous, Combining the two is just foolish.

[Liist]

Yes, being stuck and facing a immediate danger to yourself would warrant lethal force. Sometimes handing over your wallet, phone, and bike isn't enough to satisfy them. Then what?

And I don't really care. I still want to know how to hit a target consistently while on the move, even if it's a "stupid" idea.

[massacremasses]