December 17th, 2013, 08:17 AM | #1 |
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riding with tinnitus
Hi Guys,
So I have had Tinitus (constant ringing in the ear) for about a year and it gotten quite a bit worst over the last 3 months or so. So Doc focused on noise sources and of course riding comes up. While I wear 33db ear plugs every time on the bike and have a fairly quite helmet (Schuberth SR1), I guess it is hard to argue that the constant wind noise does not at least contribute a bit to the condition. Does anybody else here suffer from Tinitus and how did you feel riding impacts it for you? Any additional mitigation methods you deployed that helped? I'm at a point where I think that maybe I should start commuting in a car again (would have the added benefit of making my wife happy ) and reserve the riding for weekend fun rides and only occasional commutes, instead of it being my primary transpotation. Any thoughts or pointers for anybody experiencing Tinitus as well would be appreciated. Be safe! |
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December 17th, 2013, 08:23 AM | #2 |
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Dang, that sucks. I am of no help here but interested in what you find out.
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December 17th, 2013, 08:25 AM | #3 |
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I sometimes have ringing in the ears but usually any background noise would alleviate it. I'm surprised wind noise hasn't droned it out. You must have a really nice helmet and a great set of ear plugs or just a really serious case of tinitus.
Either way, I hope you find a solution since it'll be at least be one less thing to distract you while riding.
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December 17th, 2013, 08:26 AM | #4 |
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I sometimes have ringing in the ears but usually any background noise would alleviate it. I'm surprised wind noise hasn't droned it out. You must have a really nice helmet and a great set of ear plugs or just a really serious case of tinitus.
Either way, I hope you find a solution since it'll be at least be one less thing to distract you while riding. EDIT: Guess I kind of skipped your gear talk. I'm impressed. Maybe I have the wrong grasp of what tinitus is because it only happens to me when I'm in pure silence.
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December 17th, 2013, 08:29 AM | #5 |
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December 17th, 2013, 08:30 AM | #6 |
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Sorry, should have been clearer in my op. It's not that it distracts me so much from riding as the noise will drown it out, it's that the ringing is constant and getting worse, which people around me feel might be at least partially caused by riding a lot.
It's a pain in the rear to wake up in the middle of the night and there is a slim chance of falling back asleep because of the noise in your ear. That's when it is at it's worst, during the day I can hear it, but normally there is enough noise around me to not make it too much of a distraction. Thanks again! |
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I also have ringing in my ear. What I do is put the phone on vibrate. I found the ringing is a constant call from kids in need of everything and anything.
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December 17th, 2013, 10:39 AM | #8 |
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What kind of windscreen do you have? Perhaps a DB or touring will mitigate amount of wind your head is exposed to.
edit: just realized you have a monster listed. Don't those things have no windscreen, or at least one that doesn't do much? I can see how wind is a big factor.. |
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December 17th, 2013, 10:48 AM | #9 | |
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December 17th, 2013, 11:55 AM | #10 |
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I also have tinnitus, but yours seems worse than mine.
Just MHO, but I think that in between the helmet (I have the same helmet) and the earplugs, you've already got the wind and engine noise cut down to the point where you aren't doing any additional damage. Therefore... don't worry about it. My personal solution, and the best I've found, is a pair of PlugUp S-Plug earbuds. Even if I'm not listening to the radio, they're still terrific earplugs. I've done mashable foam, the little "christmas tree" foam ones on a cord, custom-molded rubber from a kit (DIY), wax and the S-plugs. Of all of them, I like the S-plugs best, followed by wax (which custom molds and adjusts itself when you put your helmet on).
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December 17th, 2013, 12:38 PM | #11 |
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check out these guys if you haven't already
http://www.etymotic.com/ They make some cool stuff, I used to be into hearing loss research back in the day. That being said we were never really able to make many break throughs with understand tinnitus. I have been out of that field of research for a few years now but I doubt much has changed. best of luck
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December 17th, 2013, 02:03 PM | #12 | |
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December 18th, 2013, 01:03 AM | #13 |
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sorry to one up etymotic, they're good. what's better is bose' new ear-bug nose canceling headphones. only $300.
i warn you though. having had tinitus for as long as i can remember, the silence of the bose can sometimes be deafening so put on light music or something
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December 18th, 2013, 09:28 AM | #14 |
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^Added to wishlist.. I don't even have tinnitus.
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December 18th, 2013, 09:41 AM | #15 |
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Wow... Those are cool. Why does the cool stuff have to be so expensive?
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December 21st, 2013, 08:18 PM | #16 |
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If I had to do a lot of slab, I'd be all over it. But, I mostly do 30-55mph country roads, and my RS-1 Bell shuts out most of that kind of noise. If you use the visor lock, very little gets to your ears.
Having been a miner in my greener years, i do have what the audiologists call a "frequency loss", meaning (IMO) that I can't hear sounds in the frequency range of wifely and children's whinings. i don't consider that a fault. It does, however, cause problems in those and other situations. I'm a grown-ass man, I can deal with it. If i had to do a lot of slab I'd use the foam earplugs I keep in my bags to ward off the mind warbling tinniitus, but I so religiously avoid that kind of riding that they serve in the capacity of a first aid kit.
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December 21st, 2013, 09:00 PM | #17 |
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Would somebody answer that damn phone!!!
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Vitamins of group B have helped me. Here, you can identify your particular sound: http://www.ata.org/sounds-of-tinnitus According to my doctor, the source are the nerves connecting the ears and brain, rather than problems inherent to the ears, which in my case and according to his tests, are OK (after decades of motorcycling, airport work and construction-industrial environment). He may be wrong, but he charged me anyway. There is a recent long thread about the subject: http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=tinitus
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December 21st, 2013, 10:52 PM | #19 |
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I have a little tinnitus, probably caused by riding bikes with no earplugs when I was younger. I always wear earplugs now. They seem to help the tinnitus too.
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December 23rd, 2013, 09:02 AM | #21 |
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Hi Bruce,
been reading up on these this weekend and how they possible assist with tinitus. They appear to be helping for some, but there is not scientific proof that they do and why they would (as they are designed to reduce "outside" noises). For me, they likely still be worth a shot, but results to appear to vary. Thanks to all who have commented and provided links. Lots of good material and input. |
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December 23rd, 2013, 11:12 AM | #22 |
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tinitus is caused by the nerves in your ear dying from too loud of noises. they will prevent the ringing. once you get tinitus, it never goes away. at least it never has for me
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December 23rd, 2013, 07:17 PM | #23 |
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I've had it for some time. Even as I sit here watching tv and typing my ears are ringing. Keeps me up if I wake up at night. Basically irritates me whenever there isn't sufficient back ground noise. I was just wondering if any of these devises cancel it out.
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December 23rd, 2013, 07:19 PM | #24 |
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i use a fan at night to cover up the ringing. the fan is easier to tune out than the ringing and it seems like the quieter it gets the louder the ringing is. a small fan makes it easier. because its not a real noise outside your head nothing can cancel it out i think
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