September 19th, 2015, 09:34 PM | #1 |
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10 250r replacement forks
Hello. I'm new here and joined so I can get some help fixing a bike I just picked up. It's a 2010 250r that was wrecked. I got the bike for $300 and I was told it ran. I tried to start it and it turned over but I didn't allow it to start since I have it in my apartment but I have no doubt it was going to start.
So the forks are bent so bad I can't even put the new headers the came with the deal on. Besides stock could I use othe 37mm forks. I'm thinks the the ninja 500 would fit with no mods |
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September 19th, 2015, 09:39 PM | #2 |
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Here the pics...I don't plan on replacing the fairing to keep the price down. I guess they call it a street fighter.
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September 19th, 2015, 10:32 PM | #3 |
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Your better off sticking with the OEM forks for that model.
As far as not starting, that's a long list of reasons why, you need to verify its getting spark, fuel, and air, to start with. Did the bike sit for awhile before you purchased it? Any other modifications? Is it carburetor or FI? The more information you give, the better and quicker we can help you. Also assume nothing works, you must personally verify each step.
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September 20th, 2015, 01:07 AM | #4 |
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I will check in the morning if the bike runs....I don't doubt it. Would it be ok to run for a few seconds without the headers on. I can put them on but have to turn the wheel...
And for the 500 forks, they will fit right? I'm seeing them on eBay for like $50 a set. What issues would I run into? |
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As far as the forks go I can't help you, I assume the upper tubes are bent(chrome part) The only info I have is this. Quote:
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September 20th, 2015, 02:57 AM | #6 |
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Thanks for your help. I will see about starting the bike in the morning. The battery has been on the charger all day. Might need a new one. I have another one but its for a my ltd550 and is brand new.
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September 20th, 2015, 09:58 AM | #7 |
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Could always give @PartsNinja a shout. He may have some items that you need. He deals in used/wrecked 250 and 300's, pretty reasonable. Great guy.
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September 20th, 2015, 10:56 AM | #8 |
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Thanks I'll check him out....but I'm confused to why no one has mentioned ex500 forks. What am I missing. They are the same size right. Some say a bit taller but if you add clip ons that's not an issue...someone please explain
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September 20th, 2015, 11:18 AM | #9 |
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Maybe @InvisiBill might drop in, he's more up on the Ninjette & EX suspension interchangeably.
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September 20th, 2015, 02:14 PM | #10 |
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I think the EX500 (Gen2) forks should bolt right in. The specs list them as having a bit more travel, but I'm not sure how different they actually are.
Depending on what all you're planning on doing to the bike, you might end up having to use a bunch of other little pieces off the 500 as well. The fork lowers are different, so the stock fender bracket won't fit. The 500 uses a different size brake rotor, so you'll probably need to use the 500's rotor or make an adapter bracket for the caliper. You'll have to widen the gap between the tabs on the 250 speedo drive a bit to have it match up to the 500 fork leg. The 500 uses softer springs, so you should transplant the original springs over if you can, or maybe even just buy new ones since the stockers are only good for rather light riders. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=231172 I don't see any major reason why you couldn't use 500 forks, just be aware that the change might lead to a number of other little things needing to be changed as well.
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September 20th, 2015, 03:20 PM | #11 |
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@InvisiBill could he just use the upper tubes from the EX, and lowers, etc from Ninjette?
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September 20th, 2015, 03:37 PM | #12 |
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Maybe. I briefly looked into that to get the 250 lowers on my 500 for the updated fender and closer compatibility with the VRossi wheel swap, but the 250 forks ended up being relatively expensive compared to the minor tweaking needed on the 500 forks, so it never went anywhere.
I'm not sure how different the fork internals are, and if the slightly different travel specs indicate any sort of inherent incompatibility between them. I would expect them to be quite similar, but I've never had 500 or 250 forks apart, so who knows?
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September 20th, 2015, 06:22 PM | #13 |
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i've got a full front end minus wheel i'll sell you
lets say 300 for the full setup or 200 for just the forks... plus shipping
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September 20th, 2015, 08:21 PM | #14 |
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Why not go the whole hog and look for a set of USD forks/front end?
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September 20th, 2015, 09:22 PM | #15 |
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Lots of info here thanks a lot. Seems I would save using 500 forks but they do seem they fit. I'm building a street fighting since it would be cheaper then buying plastic. So it's not a problem the the frontend swap but I have to think about getting to deep into a project.if I have to just buy replacement forks so save time and problems.
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September 20th, 2015, 09:23 PM | #16 |
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September 20th, 2015, 09:28 PM | #17 | |
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My problem would be I can put something together but not knowing if it's right or not would kill me. 65+ mph and the forks go out |
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September 20th, 2015, 09:31 PM | #18 | |
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Let me know what else you have also I need clutch shifter and a whole rear brake pedal.. |
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September 20th, 2015, 10:13 PM | #19 |
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i have a whole bike for part out minus bodywork and wheels. i think the brake pedal has scratches. the levers are the2wheels adjustable
could do forks without triples or brakes, both pedals and both levers for 225 + shipping. i try to snap some pictures in the morning
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September 20th, 2015, 10:29 PM | #20 | |
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September 20th, 2015, 10:32 PM | #21 |
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Oh it's called a step holder....
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September 20th, 2015, 10:41 PM | #24 |
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Good question. The brake Side is the problem but it looks like the clutch side had a wire connected. I'm guessing the kickstand sensor...I'm trying to look up pictures...
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https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/Parts.../2012/EX250JCF There are slight discrepancies in the two bikes' front fork travel specs, and a variety of slightly different part numbers. I don't know enough about fork construction to know which parts determine what facets of operation/specs. Assuming the overall length is pretty similar, the 500 forks should just bolt into the 250 triples and work pretty similarly (on a faired bike, you'd want to make sure the extra travel didn't cause any issues). Due to the huge similarities between the bikes, I'm guessing you could mix & match parts to make a full set of forks. But I don't know enough detail about this stuff either to say which parts you should or shouldn't use from each model to get the desired results. This is probably a task better left to someone who knows more about fork internals, and has the time and parts handy to do some experimenting. Quote:
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September 28th, 2015, 09:04 AM | #27 |
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You mean InvisiBill is not my mommy?!?
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September 28th, 2015, 07:06 PM | #28 |
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I guess I will have to find some stock forks for cheap. I do have a set in the works but I'm checking prices. I might have a guy that's local that's selling his whole bike for $700
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September 28th, 2015, 08:48 PM | #29 |
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I just paid for forks and triples from eBay for $224. The best deal yet. Hope they are o. Will have to rebuild them or what not
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September 28th, 2015, 08:51 PM | #30 |
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That seems to be about the going rate. I was holding out for that "killer" deal but it seems it may never come.
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September 28th, 2015, 08:58 PM | #31 |
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Now it the time. Nothing suxs more than putting something together, to only find a problem, like a leaking fork seal, etc...
Personally I'd do the seals, and dust caps, cut down the fork springs to match you weight, change out the fork oil, maybe a higher viscosity, 15wt, and steering head bearings, replace with tapered roller bearings http://www.allballsracing.com/ is my personal favorite brand for seals, bearings, etc..... Depending on your budget a set of Ricor INTIMINATOR, some members here have them and like them, and their on my list of things to get. http://store.ricorshocks.com/product...20-1001nin.htm http://store.ricorshocks.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=41 http://store.ricorshocks.com/ias_technology_s/19.htm
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September 28th, 2015, 09:31 PM | #32 |
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Yeah it was pretty much a complete front but I already had the seals and caps and oil in the plans...
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September 28th, 2015, 09:34 PM | #33 |
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Here's the pic and will take another one once I get them
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September 28th, 2015, 09:36 PM | #34 |
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Now I have to pick up some rear sets. And my street fighter headlight fairing
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September 29th, 2015, 03:45 PM | #36 |
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Depends, you'll need to inspect them first, although it wouldn't hurt to replace them.
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