Ninja San

[pratik06]

The story so far:

1. Engine Ice Coolant.
2. PiperCross Plug In Filter.
3. Leo Vince LVI Full Exhaust System.
4. Area P/ Fuel Moto Fuel Controller.
5. MRA Light Smoke Wind Screen.
6. ASV C/5 Adjustable Levers.
7. Lethal Threat Devil Babe tank pad.
8. Spiegler Stainless Steel Brake Lines.
9. Driven Racing D3 Grips - Limited Edition Candy Red.
10. Brembo Rims.
11. Metzeler Sportec M5 Interact tyres.
12. Ride On Tyre Protection System.
13. Rizoma Garffio LED Indicator Lights.
14. Renthal 41 Teeth Rear Sprocket.
15. Vortex 14 Teeth SS Front Sprocket.
16. Rolon X Ring Chain.
17. Scottoiler E System chain oiler.
18. Sato Racing Rear Sets.
19. FLO Stainless Steel Oil Filter.
20. All Balls Tapper Roller Bearings for Steering.
21. Translogic Micro Dash 3 digital dash board.
22. Custom made Triple Clamp.
23. WoodCraft Clip On handle bars.
24. Takai Racing Juice Boot (Ignition Booster) & RipForce 4 (Ignition Coils)

Photographs to follow...

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[salcuta88]

That's a lot of work and a big investment. The red mods look good with a white and black bike. Great work!

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Originally Posted by salcuta88

That's a lot of work and a big investment. The red mods look good with a white and black bike. Great work!

Thanks.

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[BlownWideOpen]

How many ASV logos can they fit on one lever? Jesus.

[sharky nrk]

MMMMMMM those wheels

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[micoulisninja]

really beautiful stuff there Pratik !!!
I am really drooling when looking at those rims...
what are your impressions of them ? how different does the bike handle ? was it a huge improvement ?? did you happen to weigh them before installing them by any chance, to see the weight difference compared to stock ??

I noticed you covered the Leo Vince header pipes with insulation... was that for protection of plastic and other rubber stuff from heat or is it a performance mod ??
You've also changed the brake discs... which brand are they and how do they compare to stock ??
I hope there is more to come... I like the outcome very much !!

[Somchai]

Pratik, these are fine modifications you made - congrats.
May I ask you if the rear rim from Marchesini for the 300 is a 4.00 inch or did you take the 3.50 inch?
Also as information for those who are looking for lightweight, the Galespeed are lighter and also wider than the Marchesini's.
Another question, do you have a dyno to map your fuel-controller? Maybe you contact @psych0hans for informations about that.
Good luck and a safe ride alltimes.

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Originally Posted by micoulisninja

really beautiful stuff there Pratik !!!
I am really drooling when looking at those rims...
what are your impressions of them ? how different does the bike handle ? was it a huge improvement ?? did you happen to weigh them before installing them by any chance, to see the weight difference compared to stock ??

I noticed you covered the Leo Vince header pipes with insulation... was that for protection of plastic and other rubber stuff from heat or is it a performance mod ??
You've also changed the brake discs... which brand are they and how do they compare to stock ??
I hope there is more to come... I like the outcome very much !!

@micoulisninja Thanks . Yes, I did weigh the wheels before installing them. My main criteria is performance improvement, therefore, one of the first thing that I always do is find out if the proposed change will weigh less than the stock part it will replace. The results were interesting:

1. Stock Front (with IRC tyre): 10.4 kgs.
2. Brembo Front (with Metzeler tyre): 8.6 kgs.
3. Stock Rear (with IRC tyre): 16.3 kgs
4. Brembo Rear (with Metzeler tyre): 12.6 kgs

Therefore, the total reduction was about 5.5 kgs. All the more impressive as it is from spinning mass. I needed to change the disc rotor as the stock rotor would not fit with these rims. I have resized a KTM Duke 390 rotor which fits on this rim without requiring any other modifications to mount it.

The bike noticeably quicker with these rims. It also feels much lighter to steer. However, due to the reduction in unsprung weight, the stock suspension dampening has been upset, leading to a harsher ride. So suspension upgrades are foregone conclusion in future upgrades.

The exhaust warps are once again part of performance changes. While they have no effect across most of the power band, they do help at the top end. I am looking for any and every advantage I can get in the quest for performance no matter how small to help me achieve performance gains.

There is a whole lot more planned in terms of future upgrades.

Originally Posted by Somchai

Pratik, these are fine modifications you made - congrats.
May I ask you if the rear rim from Marchesini for the 300 is a 4.00 inch or did you take the 3.50 inch?
Also as information for those who are looking for lightweight, the Galespeed are lighter and also wider than the Marchesini's.
Another question, do you have a dyno to map your fuel-controller? Maybe you contact @psych0hans for informations about that.
Good luck and a safe ride alltimes.

@Somchai: Thanks ...
These rims are 4.00 inch. Unfortunately, there is no bike dyno available in my town. Fortunately, Kerry has sent me a fuel map which is as close I am going to get to a ideal fuel map without dyno runs.

[micoulisninja]

Originally Posted by pratik06

@micoulisninja Thanks . Yes, I did weigh the wheels before installing them. My main criteria is performance improvement, therefore, one of the first thing that I always do is find out if the proposed change will weigh less than the stock part it will replace. The results were interesting:

1. Stock Front (with IRC tyre): 10.4 kgs.
2. Brembo Front (with Metzeler tyre): 8.6 kgs.
3. Stock Rear (with IRC tyre): 16.3 kgs
4. Brembo Rear (with Metzeler tyre): 12.6 kgs

Therefore, the total reduction was about 5.5 kgs. All the more impressive as it is from spinning mass. I needed to change the disc rotor as the stock rotor would not fit with these rims. I have resized a KTM Duke 390 rotor which fits on this rim without requiring any other modifications to mount it.

The bike noticeably quicker with these rims. It also feels much lighter to steer. However, due to the reduction in unsprung weight, the stock suspension dampening has been upset, leading to a harsher ride. So suspension upgrades are foregone conclusion in future upgrades.

The exhaust warps are once again part of performance changes. While they have no effect across most of the power band, they do help at the top end. I am looking for any and every advantage I can get in the quest for performance no matter how small to help me achieve performance gains.

There is a whole lot more planned in terms of future upgrades.

A very interesting mod !! A KTM front brake disc resized... so more questions for you:
1. when you say resize, you mean shortening the outside perimeter ? or opening up center or what exactly ? and which year model did you use ?
2. would that KTM disc fit on a stock rim as far as bolt pattern and distances are concerned ??

now for suspension... does it feel stiffer now or just harsher on small street bumps at low speeds ?

last but not least... about the exhaust wraps.... the difference at the top end is a conclusion of testing the new exhaust system before and after installing wraps or after installing it compared to stock exhaust ??
thank you in advance for your quick answering and sharing info with us...
any links for those rims ??

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Originally Posted by micoulisninja

A very interesting mod !! A KTM front brake disc resized... so more questions for you:
1. when you say resize, you mean shortening the outside perimeter ? or opening up center or what exactly ? and which year model did you use ?
2. would that KTM disc fit on a stock rim as far as bolt pattern and distances are concerned ??

now for suspension... does it feel stiffer now or just harsher on small street bumps at low speeds ?

last but not least... about the exhaust wraps.... the difference at the top end is a conclusion of testing the new exhaust system before and after installing wraps or after installing it compared to stock exhaust ??
thank you in advance for your quick answering and sharing info with us...
any links for those rims ??

Answers to your queries:
1. When I say resize I have machined it from the outside perimeter by 10mm. I have used it from a KTM 390 2014 model. Though there is no difference between the 2013 and 2014 models.

2. The KTM disc will not fit on the stock rims as the bolt distances are different from the stock mounting. If you want to use it you will need to create a adapter ring. But that will also add weight. Interestingly, the Duke disc is much better than the stock disc though it cost only fraction of what the stock disc cost here.

3. The suspension is not stiffer. Its harsh due to the rebound settings being upset due to decrease in weight.

The exhaust warps were tested with full exhaust system and a GTech data logger. The difference is not much but it is there. Unfortunately, the only accurate way to test it would be to put it on a dyno, but as I mentioned earlier there is no bike dyno in my town.

We don't have close circuit where the bike can be tested safely so I am waiting to complete the next set of changes before I take to the nearest close circuit which is about 1,200 kms from my town.

Sorry, don't have a link for these wheels as I had bought them during a visit to London. I just walked into a bike shop that was clearing stock as it was closing down. Saw 2 white boxes with Brembo logo in a corner and asked owner about them. He told me that they were a pair of rims and he could offer them to me for 300 quid. Of course I jumped at it

[sharky nrk]

What prep did you do with the exhaust wrap? Just a note of caution that in some cases it can cause both premature wear and cracking. I think if you use the sealant the premature wear issue with corrosion is mostly mitigated. The cracking generally tends to be seen on "lower quality" exhaust systems. You may be in the clear but just wanted to give you a heads up to keep on top of it. Love the bike.

[micoulisninja]

Originally Posted by pratik06

Answers to your queries:
1. When I say resize I have machined it from the outside perimeter by 10mm. I have used it from a KTM 390 2014 model. Though there is no difference between the 2013 and 2014 models.

2. The KTM disc will not fit on the stock rims as the bolt distances are different from the stock mounting. If you want to use it you will need to create a adapter ring. But that will also add weight. Interestingly, the Duke disc is much better than the stock disc though it cost only fraction of what the stock disc cost here.

3. The suspension is not stiffer. Its harsh due to the rebound settings being upset due to decrease in weight.

The exhaust warps were tested with full exhaust system and a GTech data logger. The difference is not much but it is there. Unfortunately, the only accurate way to test it would be to put it on a dyno, but as I mentioned earlier there is no bike dyno in my town.

We don't have close circuit where the bike can be tested safely so I am waiting to complete the next set of changes before I take to the nearest close circuit which is about 1,200 kms from my town.

Sorry, don't have a link for these wheels as I had bought them during a visit to London. I just walked into a bike shop that was clearing stock as it was closing down. Saw 2 white boxes with Brembo logo in a corner and asked owner about them. He told me that they were a pair of rims and he could offer them to me for 300 quid. Of course I jumped at it

you've got me all covered...you were lucky with the rims for tha price...
that leaves me with one last question! do you think that it would be easy to use the whole 390 rims in place of the stocks or it would need extensive modification ?
looking forward to the rest of your upgrades...

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Originally Posted by sharky nrk

What prep did you do with the exhaust wrap? Just a note of caution that in some cases it can cause both premature wear and cracking. I think if you use the sealant the premature wear issue with corrosion is mostly mitigated. The cracking generally tends to be seen on "lower quality" exhaust systems. You may be in the clear but just wanted to give you a heads up to keep on top of it. Love the bike.

Thanks for the heads up . Currently I have not used any prep. I just wanted to see how these work out. Now that I am sure that they are something that I want on my bike permanently, I will be installing the following https://www.deipowersports.com/produ...ps-accessories next month.

Originally Posted by micoulisninja

you've got me all covered...you were lucky with the rims for tha price...
that leaves me with one last question! do you think that it would be easy to use the whole 390 rims in place of the stocks or it would need extensive modification ?
looking forward to the rest of your upgrades...

These rims are not bolt on, you will not be able to simply swap out the stock rims for these. You will need to fabricate the required spacers to install them, stock spacers will not work. As discussed earlier you will also not be able use stock disc rotors without fabricating a adaptor ring (for rear wheel also). Another issue is the rear sprocket. You will not be able to use stock sprocket. You will need to source sprockets that are specifically designed for the rear rim.

The rims that I am using are forged. Whereas the rims on the KTM Duke 390 while looking very similar are actually cast. While I don't know what the weight of the Duke 390 rims is but it will definitely be much higher than the forged ones. So from a performance point of view, I really don't think they may be worth your while.

Also in India, there have been complaints with the quality of the Duke 390 rims. Cracked rims seem to be one of the more persistent problem the bike. Here is a example:

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[Somchai]

@pratik06, please don't understand my post as critics at your person, but more as a reminder for safety (as a German I'm used in that).
So please take a look at my mark on your picture

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[QUOTE=Somchai;933637]@pratik06, please don't understand my post as critics at your person, but more as a reminder for safety (as a German I'm used in that).
So please take a look at my mark on your picture

No offence taken... ... Yes, need to take care of that.

[micoulisninja]

Pratik do you have in mind any engine mods ?
If yes, what are you up to ?

[pratik06]

Originally Posted by micoulisninja

Pratik do you have in mind any engine mods ?
If yes, what are you up to ?

Yes, there is a lot planned. Currently, I am looking to gain all performance gains I can without going into the engine and making any changes. Once, all such options have been used up, it will be time to take to the engine.

As for what I am up to, I would rather do it then post it over here than just go on about what I am up to .

[micoulisninja]

Originally Posted by pratik06

Yes, there is a lot planned. Currently, I am looking to gain all performance gains I can without going into the engine and making any changes. Once, all such options have been used up, it will be time to take to the engine.

As for what I am up to, I would rather do it then post it over here than just go on about what I am up to .

just a hint... naturally aspirated or turbo ?

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[Qomomoko]

sweet pics and mods!!!

[micoulisninja]

Originally Posted by pratik06

never seen anything like that before !!
some questions (what else ?)
1. cost for the whole unit ?
2. the internal oil filter is advertised as "reusable". how many times can that be reused (or is safe to anyway)?
3. If for some reason the filter is damaged, is it being sold separetely as a replacement or do you have to purachase a whole new package ?
4. where or how can I order that ?
5. do you have previous experience with that product or is it the first item you use ?
6. how is that metal cover dealing with heat dissipation ? is it helping any or is it just for protection of the internal ?
7. any other features or info you could share with us about that ?
8. thank you for your time and patience in advance...

[pratik06]

Originally Posted by micoulisninja

never seen anything like that before !!
some questions (what else ?)
1. cost for the whole unit ?
2. the internal oil filter is advertised as "reusable". how many times can that be reused (or is safe to anyway)?
3. If for some reason the filter is damaged, is it being sold separetely as a replacement or do you have to purachase a whole new package ?
4. where or how can I order that ?
5. do you have previous experience with that product or is it the first item you use ?
6. how is that metal cover dealing with heat dissipation ? is it helping any or is it just for protection of the internal ?
7. any other features or info you could share with us about that ?
8. thank you for your time and patience in advance...

Answers to your queries:

1. The cost of the unit is $120/-.

2. The oil filter will last for the life of the bike. As long as the filter is cleaned properly, there is no reason why it will not last for the life of the bike. The only part that you will need to replace periodically is the 'O' ring.

3. I really don't know if the oil stainer can be ordered separately. The 'O' rings can be order separately. The box comes with 2 'O' rings.

4. You can order the same from http://www.pcracingusa.com/Kawasaki-...PCS1_p_19.html

5. This is the first time that I am using this filter. I got a pointer from a friend who has it on his R1.

6. Yes the aluminium casing with cooling fins does help in heat dissipation. Engine operating temps are lower by at least 3 to 5 degrees celsius on days when ambient temperatures are 37 to 39 degrees celsius over here.

I don't know if its been discussed on this forum or not, but the N300 has a tendency to have fuel vapour locks when it idles for prolong time in traffic (a very common situation over here due to traffic conditions). The installation of this filter has helped reduce this problem significantly.

7. You do need to be contentious and clean the filter every 8,000 to 10,000 kms. Cleaning it is easy. Use a carburettor/ FI cleaning spray and then blow dry. It can even be cleaned with soap and water. I have a ultrasonic cleaner and I use the same to ensure that it is cleaned throughly.

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[micoulisninja]

your upgrades are certainly important and quality ones !! so nice to watch that transformation !!

got to say though, I love the twisted horn... was that to let more air flow to the radiator or for easier access to stuff and bolts down there ?