Wheelie on little Ninja?

salcuta88 · July 12th, 2014, 07:31 PM

Just wondering, has anyone ever popped a wheelie on these Ninjas? I think it would be difficult to. I've never done one and not planning to.

cuong-nutz · July 12th, 2014, 07:35 PM

10k clutch drop.

psykown · July 12th, 2014, 07:36 PM

Yes! not very easy (for me at least) and totally scared the crap out of me but a blast all the same! I think I had about 8k showing on the tach and was coasting about 5 mph when I got her up.

psykown · July 12th, 2014, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

10k clutch drop.

havent worked up the courage to try at 10k yet lol

Motofool · July 12th, 2014, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Just wondering, has anyone ever popped a wheelie on these Ninjas? I think it would be difficult to. I've never done one and not planning to.

Yes, and successfully, ............ while the engine resisted.

Please, see this thread:
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=121337

nickjpass · July 12th, 2014, 10:17 PM

If i can wheelie my klx140l you can wheelie a 250...

warlord · July 13th, 2014, 12:04 AM

Yes it can be done but it's kinda pathetic since it just drops back down. I can do way better wheelie on the Grom!

nickjpass · July 13th, 2014, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlord

Yes it can be done but it's kinda pathetic since it just drops back down. I can do way better wheelie on the Grom!

I beg to differ...

Link to original page on YouTube.

warlord · July 13th, 2014, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

I beg to differ...

Link to original page on YouTube.

My point exactly

subxero · July 13th, 2014, 10:00 AM

As others have said and a referenced thread says several times. Yes the ninja can wheelie, quite easily but it is a little hard on the clutch of the bike because you do have to drop the clutch at around 10k.

If you are deep enough in the throttle and high enough in the revs you could easily loop the ninja (do a wheelie and flip the bike)

Alex · July 13th, 2014, 10:06 AM

Sometimes that's called "the Hong".

Link to original page on YouTube.

csmith12 · July 13th, 2014, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

I beg to differ...

Link to original page on YouTube.

There is snow on the ground in this vid.

antiant · July 13th, 2014, 10:16 AM

Yep, ninjas can do them. I did one on accident with my first little crash. That was an interesting experience. I felt like I was on a bull getting bucked, like you see in those rodeo's.

Ralgha · July 13th, 2014, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlord

My point exactly

It dropped back down in that video because he didn't stabilize it in the wheelie, not because the bike can't do it.

I've gotten the front wheel off the ground without even trying to, but I wouldn't call it a wheelie, wasn't big enough.

warlord · July 13th, 2014, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralgha

It dropped back down in that video because he didn't stabilize it in the wheelie, not because the bike can't do it.

I've gotten the front wheel off the ground without even trying to, but I wouldn't call it a wheelie, wasn't big enough.

Kawasaki did an excellent job of making the 250 a safe beginner bike. It's very forgiving and as I implied before hard to wheelie accidentally or intentionally. It's not a dig at anyone to say the 250 can only do pathetic wheelies...

subxero · July 13th, 2014, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlord

Kawasaki did an excellent job of making the 250 a safe beginner bike. It's very forgiving and as I implied before hard to wheelie accidentally or intentionally. It's not a dig at anyone to say the 250 can only do pathetic wheelies...

accidentally... sure but intentionally... not at all

warlord · July 13th, 2014, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

accidentally... sure but intentionally... not at all

If you consider a 10k clutch drop an easy way to wheelie a motorcycle you need to get out and ride other motorcycles...

subxero · July 13th, 2014, 04:01 PM

It isn't exactly hard to do, pretty simple really. Hmm pull in clutch, rev bike with fairly deep throttle dump clutch..... how is this hard?

If you think this is hard perhaps you should try riding some other motorcycles

DailyFloridaRider · July 13th, 2014, 05:37 PM

2nd gear, around 20mph give or take, 2 finger dump (quick snap) the clutch while on the throttle a bit. First time you do it start in the lower rpm range so you can get a feel for it. Just pop the tire up. Especially if you haven't wheelied anything before. Practice and be patient with yourself or you will definitely flip the bike. After a while you can wheelie these things easy and stabilize for longer runs. I haven't been successful at upshifting my 250 into 3rd in a wheelie yet though. All my 250 dirt bikes I can run thru the gears easily. Practice practice practice! Oh, and never panic. Keep your toe over the rear brake and a gentle tap will bring ya back down.

BoBO · July 13th, 2014, 06:11 PM

I was never a stunt person, but I tried it a little bit yesterday. I noticed that the front wheel would pop up after dumping the clutch around 7-8k, I haven't found the balance point yet since I'm new to this on the 250. Having a nearly empty fuel tank helps as well as trying to put you weight back. Wheelies are easier on 600's & 1000's. I can power wheelie on a Fizzer 1000.

I will try a few more times, but I'm gonna save the wheelies for a klx140. I don't wanna ruin the clutch on my 250 and blow my fork seals. I still gotta track this bikeand buy my Race Suit.

nickjpass · July 14th, 2014, 03:46 AM

To compare, I need to rev my zx6r up to 8k or more to wheelie too. Unless im wot, then it'll pick up the front tire for the first three gears.

gantt · July 14th, 2014, 09:31 AM

It will do it. But its not very fun. Too hard on the bike.

salcuta88 · July 15th, 2014, 03:57 AM

I've never done a wheelie in my life before, except on my Trek bike

, so I'm not going to risk dropping my ninja. Plus, I promised my wife and to myself that I'm not going to be stunting.

Enrgkid · July 15th, 2014, 06:20 AM

I dropped the clutch at about 8k in the work carpark, and managed to maintain it for about 30 metres...scared the sht outta me, never again, though I was proud, and I got 100 bucks from a guy who bet I couldnt do it

Worldtraveller · July 15th, 2014, 08:38 AM

Every race start.....

Not much though, it slows things down too much if it lifts too high.

nickjpass · July 15th, 2014, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

Every race start.....

Not much though, it slows things down too much if it lifts too high.

tank slappers

Sirref · July 15th, 2014, 08:48 AM

on a 300 you pop the wheel off the ground a bit when you shift into second if you're doing it aggressively.

for both bikes (250/300) you can get it up with the clutch in 1st and 2nd without much issue though it's very difficult to learn how to wheelie on these bikes. If you're getting the front off the ground in any significant fashion you're either launching the bike or doing a clutch up. It is definitely not something that happens accidentally for us.

salcuta88 · September 14th, 2014, 12:19 PM

I managed to pull one at 10k but didn't hold long. Maybe a couple of feet.

BlownWideOpen · September 15th, 2014, 06:24 AM

"Not gunna stunt my bike cause I promised my wife I wouldn't be a mumblie"

*Stunts bike*

csmith12 · September 15th, 2014, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

Every race start.....

Not much though, it slows things down too much if it lifts too high.

About an inch or two lets you know you got the job done. Then a little hop when you shift to 2nd.

salcuta88 · September 15th, 2014, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlownWideOpen

"Not gunna stunt my bike cause I promised my wife I wouldn't be a mumblie"

*Stunts bike*

You got me there, but it was around 5mph and wanted to see if I can lift the wheel. She knows and is fine with it. No worries, I promised I'll be a careful rider and I am.

salcuta88 · September 15th, 2014, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

About an inch or two lets you know you got the job done. Then a little hop when you shift to 2nd.

I barely lifted it, but that's it. I don't know if you even consider that a wheelie.

My bike was never dropped or laid down and I plan on keeping it that way

July 12th, 2014, 07:31 PM	#1
salcuta88 ninjette.org guru Name: Vlad Location: Weaverville, NC Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R (Sold), 2015 Rocky Mountain Soul (Runs on fat) Posts: 404	Wheelie on little Ninja? Just wondering, has anyone ever popped a wheelie on these Ninjas? I think it would be difficult to. I've never done one and not planning to.

July 12th, 2014, 07:35 PM	#2
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	10k clutch drop. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

July 12th, 2014, 10:17 PM	#6
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	If i can wheelie my klx140l you can wheelie a 250... __________________________________________________

July 13th, 2014, 10:00 AM	#10
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	As others have said and a referenced thread says several times. Yes the ninja can wheelie, quite easily but it is a little hard on the clutch of the bike because you do have to drop the clutch at around 10k. If you are deep enough in the throttle and high enough in the revs you could easily loop the ninja (do a wheelie and flip the bike) __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

July 13th, 2014, 10:06 AM	#11
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July 12th, 2014, 07:36 PM	#3
psykown ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: Lancaster CA Join Date: Dec 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 "sold" 2014 ninja 300 "Gold" 2000 DRZ400S (Sold the POS) K7 GSXR600 (Also POS...see a pattern? Posts: 207	Yes! not very easy (for me at least) and totally scared the crap out of me but a blast all the same! I think I had about 8k showing on the tach and was coasting about 5 mph when I got her up.

July 13th, 2014, 12:04 AM	#7
warlord ninjette.org guru Name: war Location: north chicago burbs Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ducati Panigale 899 Posts: 325	Yes it can be done but it's kinda pathetic since it just drops back down. I can do way better wheelie on the Grom!

July 13th, 2014, 10:16 AM	#13
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	Yep, ninjas can do them. I did one on accident with my first little crash. That was an interesting experience. I felt like I was on a bull getting bucked, like you see in those rodeo's.

July 13th, 2014, 04:01 PM	#18
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	It isn't exactly hard to do, pretty simple really. Hmm pull in clutch, rev bike with fairly deep throttle dump clutch..... how is this hard? If you think this is hard perhaps you should try riding some other motorcycles __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.
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July 13th, 2014, 05:37 PM	#19
DailyFloridaRider Open air 24/7-365 Name: Keith Location: Tampa Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 06 Ninja 250 (daily rider), ATK 250 desert racer, Ninja 1000, Shadow 600 Posts: 23	Of course you can 2nd gear, around 20mph give or take, 2 finger dump (quick snap) the clutch while on the throttle a bit. First time you do it start in the lower rpm range so you can get a feel for it. Just pop the tire up. Especially if you haven't wheelied anything before. Practice and be patient with yourself or you will definitely flip the bike. After a while you can wheelie these things easy and stabilize for longer runs. I haven't been successful at upshifting my 250 into 3rd in a wheelie yet though. All my 250 dirt bikes I can run thru the gears easily. Practice practice practice! Oh, and never panic. Keep your toe over the rear brake and a gentle tap will bring ya back down.

July 13th, 2014, 06:11 PM	#20
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	I was never a stunt person, but I tried it a little bit yesterday. I noticed that the front wheel would pop up after dumping the clutch around 7-8k, I haven't found the balance point yet since I'm new to this on the 250. Having a nearly empty fuel tank helps as well as trying to put you weight back. Wheelies are easier on 600's & 1000's. I can power wheelie on a Fizzer 1000. I will try a few more times, but I'm gonna save the wheelies for a klx140. I don't wanna ruin the clutch on my 250 and blow my fork seals. I still gotta track this bikeand buy my Race Suit. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

July 14th, 2014, 03:46 AM	#21
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	To compare, I need to rev my zx6r up to 8k or more to wheelie too. Unless im wot, then it'll pick up the front tire for the first three gears. __________________________________________________

July 14th, 2014, 09:31 AM	#22
gantt ninjette.org sage Name: michael Location: Central Georgia Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2019 Ninja 400, Sold 2012 Ninja 650, Sold 2009 Ninja 250r, Sold 2007 DRZ400s Posts: 628	It will do it. But its not very fun. Too hard on the bike.

July 15th, 2014, 03:57 AM	#23
salcuta88 ninjette.org guru Name: Vlad Location: Weaverville, NC Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R (Sold), 2015 Rocky Mountain Soul (Runs on fat) Posts: 404	I've never done a wheelie in my life before, except on my Trek bike , so I'm not going to risk dropping my ninja. Plus, I promised my wife and to myself that I'm not going to be stunting.

July 15th, 2014, 06:20 AM	#24
Enrgkid Boy Racer Name: James Location: Sydney Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08' NINJA 250R, 2013 BMW HP4 Posts: 41	I dropped the clutch at about 8k in the work carpark, and managed to maintain it for about 30 metres...scared the sht outta me, never again, though I was proud, and I got 100 bucks from a guy who bet I couldnt do it __________________________________________________ Ride List: Current: 09' Ninja 250r Previous: 99' ZZR250

July 15th, 2014, 08:38 AM	#25
Worldtraveller ninjette.org sage Name: Lane Location: Medford, OR Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 (trackbike), CBR600RR, GS500F Posts: 588	Every race start..... Not much though, it slows things down too much if it lifts too high.
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July 15th, 2014, 08:48 AM	#27
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	on a 300 you pop the wheel off the ground a bit when you shift into second if you're doing it aggressively. for both bikes (250/300) you can get it up with the clutch in 1st and 2nd without much issue though it's very difficult to learn how to wheelie on these bikes. If you're getting the front off the ground in any significant fashion you're either launching the bike or doing a clutch up. It is definitely not something that happens accidentally for us.

September 14th, 2014, 12:19 PM	#28
salcuta88 ninjette.org guru Name: Vlad Location: Weaverville, NC Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R (Sold), 2015 Rocky Mountain Soul (Runs on fat) Posts: 404	I managed to pull one at 10k but didn't hold long. Maybe a couple of feet.

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BlownWideOpen ninjette.org guru Name: Artie Location: Canada Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Stuff Posts: 284	"Not gunna stunt my bike cause I promised my wife I wouldn't be a mumblie" Stunts bike __________________________________________________ Paint side up, rubber side down!

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