Just watched twist of the wrist 2

[DennyV]

And it was definitely alot more than I could process, so I will watch it a few more times, but I will say I learned alot, and it cleared up on some things that MSF didn't mention or wasn't so clear about. First and foremost is the smooth rolling on of the throttle throughout the turn, my MSF instructors on said to roll on the throttle so I always rolled on and kept it at a single point throughout the turn thinking that's what it meant. Another thing I learned was that I was way to tense on the bike, something I even did in MSF class that the instructors never corrected me on or mentioned anything about. The last thing I picked up was positioning my body and using my legs, another thing they don't even mention in MSF. I'm pretty sure there are many more things I missed, but for now I think I'm gonna go practice these 3 things and then watch it again and pickup something new. Overall I think its a much watch for everyone, I think I may even get the book!

[ally99]

Originally Posted by DennyV

Overall I think its a much watch for everyone, I think I may even get the book!

Definitely get the book! It's handy to have as a reference. I learn something new every time I read it or refer to it. I actually take it to the track with me every time I go, just in case I come across something I have a question about. Glad you watched it!

[blackoutt]

I love that movie, and the book's pretty good too! Definitely too much to think about all at once at first. Pick one thing, perfect it, then move on to the next, then combine them and perfect them together, then add another. You'll see your skills progress quickly.

[Yakaru]

I also watched it last week and since then I've been planning to get the book but it's sadly not Kindled yet and I've resolved no more physical books (I donated 3 full size book shelves last year; they're my weakness).

[Scattcatt]

The information from the movie is excellent! I always suggest it to my friends who also ride.

[Heed]

anywhere i can watch it online without buying the dvd?

[Yakaru]

There's a Korean subbed clip of it here that might give you a good idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWH_QiXw5n4

[ajcadoo]

That video changed my riding habits soooo much.

[Renner]

Originally Posted by Heed

anywhere i can watch it online without buying the dvd?

I have a copy in my dropbox.com folder...if you want the link pm me and you can DL it to your PC

[Shaol1n Monk]

awesome resource! i learned alot and still go back and watch more.
bought the book as well and have read.
last week i let my 9 yr old son watch after buying him a 50cc pocketbike... i was gonna shut it off after the countersteering and throttle control portion cuz thats what i wnted him to work on... he told me to leave it on as i got a shower and when i came bac ready to take him to ride he was still watching intently over an hour into it.
we went to the lot and i set up trashcan track and he started ripping around it and stopping every couple laps to tell me a diff technique he learned from the vid! he wound up lapping the course faster and faster, with good body position, throttle control, corner speed, and much more! he even scraped his pegs a couple times his lean angle was over so much!
kids are really like little sponges absorbing all kinds of info.
trying to get him out for his first real minimoto race this weekend

[ally99]

Coming from a teacher of 9 year olds, right on dad!!

[Misti]

Originally Posted by DennyV

And it was definitely alot more than I could process, so I will watch it a few more times, but I will say I learned alot, and it cleared up on some things that MSF didn't mention or wasn't so clear about. First and foremost is the smooth rolling on of the throttle throughout the turn, my MSF instructors on said to roll on the throttle so I always rolled on and kept it at a single point throughout the turn thinking that's what it meant. Another thing I learned was that I was way to tense on the bike, something I even did in MSF class that the instructors never corrected me on or mentioned anything about. The last thing I picked up was positioning my body and using my legs, another thing they don't even mention in MSF. I'm pretty sure there are many more things I missed, but for now I think I'm gonna go practice these 3 things and then watch it again and pickup something new. Overall I think its a much watch for everyone, I think I may even get the book!

Great I know a few people in that movie

I think it is a good point you make about watching it a few times in order to be able to absorb the info, there is a LOT there!

It's often a good idea to pick one section at a time, watch it, practice it and then move on. It's how the school is run, one thing at a time.

If you have any questions about any of the techniques within the movie just let me know and I'll do my best to answer!

Misti

Originally Posted by Shaol1n Monk

awesome resource! i learned alot and still go back and watch more.
bought the book as well and have read.
last week i let my 9 yr old son watch after buying him a 50cc pocketbike... i was gonna shut it off after the countersteering and throttle control portion cuz thats what i wnted him to work on... he told me to leave it on as i got a shower and when i came bac ready to take him to ride he was still watching intently over an hour into it.
we went to the lot and i set up trashcan track and he started ripping around it and stopping every couple laps to tell me a diff technique he learned from the vid! he wound up lapping the course faster and faster, with good body position, throttle control, corner speed, and much more! he even scraped his pegs a couple times his lean angle was over so much!
kids are really like little sponges absorbing all kinds of info.
trying to get him out for his first real minimoto race this weekend

Awesome! I coach some of the young kids and am always amazed at how fast they soak up all the info, even the technical stuff that we often think they are too young for. Kids are amazing! Then they start riding faster than me

Misti

[ally99]

Misti! Welcome back!!! We've missed you.

[jboyd12]

I just watched it too! It was a little long, so I was really captured by it in the beginning but by the end my boyfriend and I were too distracted, and not learning much. But overall, definitely a good movie and really informative. I learned a lot.

[Shaol1n Monk]

Originally Posted by jboyd12

I just watched it too! It was a little long, so I was really captured by it in the beginning but by the end my boyfriend and I were too distracted, and not learning much. But overall, definitely a good movie and really informative. I learned a lot.

i think it really is meant to be watched in sections, like the book is meant to be read in chapters and each technique applied and practiced. i know its way too much info to take in at once. it IS long, i usually watch a couple sections then shut it off too.

[MaximumHP]

I just picked up a copy of this DVD myself the other day, hope to watch it this weekend. I think I will take your advice and watch it a section at a time to not pollute my mind with too much info all at once.

[Scattcatt]

Originally Posted by MaximumHP

I just picked up a copy of this DVD myself the other day, hope to watch it this weekend. I think I will take your advice and watch it a section at a time to not pollute my mind with too much info all at once.

That's honestly probably the best advice anyone can give about the movie. The information density is so high there is no way you will pick everything up after watching the movie all the way through the first, second, third, or even fourth time. Watching a section then practicing on that section would probably help solidify good technique and proper habits before moving on and conquering the next.

Good luck and best wishes! Really is an amazing video!

[Miles_Prower]

I agree it's overload if you watch the entire thing. One topic that I picked out to work on was anchoring myself to the bike using my legs and core. I already knew it helped a lot in turns, which I started practicing a while ago, but I didn't think about doing it while braking. I started practicing that yesterday and I already am feeling a lot better about it. The bike is squirming less since I'm not transferring all the weight through my wrists and into the bars anymore.

[LoD575]

Book and DVD is a great combo pack. I first watched the movie all the way through and it felt like my brain was going to melt. So much information is presented.

Pick a section and work those skills is my current philosophy.

[675Raisinator]

doesnt make any sense right ?

[Mbomb]

pretty good stuff in there. dealers should include a copy when you buy

[csmith12]

TOTWII - 1:34 minutes to watch, a lifetime to perfect. When you think your good enough, watch it again.

[Misti]

Originally Posted by Shaol1n Monk

i think it really is meant to be watched in sections, like the book is meant to be read in chapters and each technique applied and practiced. i know its way too much info to take in at once. it IS long, i usually watch a couple sections then shut it off too.

Absolutely! The teaching method at the California Superbike School is "one thing at a time" so using that same philosophy with the info from the video is really helpful. Watch it in sections, pick out something to work on, try it, practice it then move on. Then do it all again

Originally Posted by Miles_Prower

I agree it's overload if you watch the entire thing. One topic that I picked out to work on was anchoring myself to the bike using my legs and core. I already knew it helped a lot in turns, which I started practicing a while ago, but I didn't think about doing it while braking. I started practicing that yesterday and I already am feeling a lot better about it. The bike is squirming less since I'm not transferring all the weight through my wrists and into the bars anymore.

Excellent! It really does help a lot with cornering to have your body anchored to the bike so that you can remain stable. A stable lower body means that you can keep excess weight off your arms.

Good for you to notice that it also helps with braking and that the bike squirms less. When I'm riding I pinch the tank with both knees while under braking so that my body doesn't slid forward and put excess weight on the wrists and handlebars, then when I tip the bike into the turn I just let that inside knee fall out.

What about setting up your body position? When do you do that? Do you move your body to the side of the upcoming turn BEFORE you start your braking, during or as you are turning the bike?

Originally Posted by csmith12

TOTWII - 1:34 minutes to watch, a lifetime to perfect. When you think your good enough, watch it again.

Absolutely!!! The cool thing about all the skills in the Twist DVD (and Superbike School) is that you don't really ever "perfect" them. You can keep working on them over and over again and as your speed or skill improves in one area you can revisit the next area and work on that. For example, as your throttle control improves at the exit of one corner you entry speed into the next will be higher so you may have to alter your reference points and work on your visual skills to help you utilize that extra speed and carry it through the corner.

I was recently at the Ridge Motorsports Park for the first time and was working with a student who had done 6 track days there. He was amazed that I was able to ride with him (at his fairly quick pace) during my first session on the track and he asked me how I was able to do it. I told him I was simply doing the Superbike School drills. I work on finding RP's and my Throttle Control and turning the bike quickly and my two step etc......the stuff works

Misti

[Miles_Prower]

Originally Posted by Misti

What about setting up your body position? When do you do that? Do you move your body to the side of the upcoming turn BEFORE you start your braking, during or as you are turning the bike?

When I do move my body around I try to get set before the turn. Ill see which way it's going and generally how sharp it looks and I'll shift over if needed. Then when I'm closer towards the turn I'm done moving and slowing and then I just try to look through and turn in.

Two things I am trying now: First, like the dvd showed, trying to quickly turn in, instead of making huge turns. I feel a lot more at ease not worry about overshooting lanes or slowing down excessively. Second, I am actively thinking about continuously rolling on through the corner, and rolling on while standing the bike up as opposed to standing up and then rolling on. I noticed I am a bit quicker, and I can feel the bike lifting and feeling more stable. It's very rewarding!!

[Misti]

Originally Posted by Miles_Prower

When I do move my body around I try to get set before the turn. Ill see which way it's going and generally how sharp it looks and I'll shift over if needed. Then when I'm closer towards the turn I'm done moving and slowing and then I just try to look through and turn in.

Two things I am trying now: First, like the dvd showed, trying to quickly turn in, instead of making huge turns. I feel a lot more at ease not worry about overshooting lanes or slowing down excessively. Second, I am actively thinking about continuously rolling on through the corner, and rolling on while standing the bike up as opposed to standing up and then rolling on. I noticed I am a bit quicker, and I can feel the bike lifting and feeling more stable. It's very rewarding!!

Sounds good. You want to have your body position set up before you get to the turn so that you are not trying to do too much all at turn entry. I tend to set up well before the turn and if there are two right hand turns in a row I don't bother moving into the middle of the seat and back over again, I just stay off to the right.

Quick turns will really help you feel more confident knowing that you can get the bike to change direction when you want it too, and good throttle control will, as you described, help the bike feel more stable

Glad you are noticing some improvements, keep it up and if you have any questions about the techniques in the DVD or book, just ask!

Misti

[JA-Moo]

I typed out a out line of the main points and keep it with me, just a page. Very handy to have.