Does anyone wear "armor" or "plates" When riding?

[Sound Wave]

i went riding with a bunch of long time friends. one guy who i haven't seen in YEARS was giving me crap that i was overprotected and that it looked like i was ready for a football game or something. "man, where are YOU going? we are only riding for about 70 miles!!!"

he was jesting me in good fun, but this coming from a guy wearing chaps, a t-shirt, leather vest, and a german ww2 style helmet.... i didn't take him too seriously anyway.

[Beast]

In regards to neck protection, my Dainese Del Mar jacket has their "Neck 5" system pre-installed.

The end of this video demonstrates how it works.

Link to original page on YouTube.

[Buffalony]

Originally Posted by chinasmurf

Absolutely wear gear. I got into a accident as a passenger and got rasberries. One on my face too, thank god it healed.

Icon helmet and gloves
Powertrip Jacket w/ back & elbow armor
Joe Rocket with hip and knee armor
Vega boots ankle protection

I never seen the tailbone protection ones, I've learned something today

A day with nothing learned is, the only waste of a day.

Beast...that ish is a serious piece of safety equipment. I learned something aswell...Good...now I cant go to sleep...1

[sometimesido]

How do you like the system?
I see no one else mentioning something for neck so far.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by sometimesido

How do you like the system?
I see no one else mentioning something for neck so far.

It's great, I don't even notice it in my jacket. The system extends about 1.5 - 2inches above the jacket line. If I tilt my head back, I can feel the support. review for me.

[sometimesido]

Thanks.
hm..I see knee draggers has them for sale separately. Going on the list.

[Sound Wave]

beast, so that neck stuff is built in... how about that spine protector? no right?

i need to get something for my chest, neck and spine too. those are the areas i am lacking adequate protection.

[sometimesido]

lookie here. There are other versions too.

kneedraggers

[BlueTyke]

In reference to riding in the heat-

After all this talk... No one has mentioned Under Armor (as a name brand) sports gear for warm weather sports activities. A lot of bicyclists and such use them to help keep them cool. Last year at the start of the riding season here I picked up a shirt from Under armer that is made of light fabric and has a mesh back! It helps the air get to my skin to help cool me off. Leme see if I can find the shirt online... No luck... I have worn it on several of my rides though and I do have to say it is wonderful!

[sometimesido]

Oh yea. I use Under Armor tshirt and shorts. I can't ride without them.

[Beast]

i need to get something for my chest, neck and spine too. those are the areas i am lacking adequate protection.

My jacket has a G series back protector in it as well.

This is the combo I'm considering getting. Might be something you'd consider too.

Knox Gilette Air


Basically their back protector and chest protector in one streamlined system. The chest protector is removable. The back protector that comes with it does not protect your tailbone. Knox carries a "race" contour back protector that extends over your tail bone, but it doesn't come in this kit.

WATCH THE VIDEO REVIEW towards the bottom of the page
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=1032

[sometimesido]

anyone seen this article?
Airbag.

http://kakimotodotcom.blogspot.com/2...e-air-bag.html

[lavid2002]

that jacket looks pretty cool. I don't think Ive told anyone on this forum but for my birthday my uncle gave me his old CL-11 HJC helmet. Its white (remember my article about being seen? This is great b/c its very noticable) The helmet is in excellent condition(He has since changedd to a 3/4 shell b/c he thinks the full face is too restricting)...but I had to order a new clear face shield b/c the old one had a scratch or two. I think im going to buy that jacket. Is it restricting? When you turn your head to check for cars to change lanes does it keep you from turning?

[lavid2002]

WOAHHHHH 900$$$$ JACKET!

Very expensive.

[sometimesido]

see my previous post, you can buy the neck thing separately.

[KJohnson21]

Originally Posted by lavid2002

my uncle gave me his old CL-11 HJC helmet.

How old is the helmet? There should be a sticker inside with the month and year of manufacture.

[lavid2002]

September 1997 :P

[CRXTrek]

Originally Posted by lavid2002

September 1997 :P

Time for a new lid

[miks]

How often should a helmet be replaced? With daily wear, and without drops of course.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by miks

How often should a helmet be replaced? With daily wear, and without drops of course.

5 years

[jpnfrk]

Originally Posted by BlueTyke

In reference to riding in the heat-

After all this talk... No one has mentioned Under Armor (as a name brand) sports gear for warm weather sports activities. A lot of bicyclists and such use them to help keep them cool. Last year at the start of the riding season here I picked up a shirt from Under armer that is made of light fabric and has a mesh back! It helps the air get to my skin to help cool me off. Leme see if I can find the shirt online... No luck... I have worn it on several of my rides though and I do have to say it is wonderful!

I'm with you on this one Sunny. I have a long sleeve with mock turtleneck made for cyclists that is moisture wicking and speeds evaporation to keep you dry. It's a breathable material yet it doesn't let the chilly wind come through... a great alternative to wearing an old cotton t-shirt. The ones made for runners are also great and can be found at very affordable prices. Here's two they have at Target for about $10-14 each:

[Beast]

WOAHHHHH 900$$$$ JACKET!

Worth EVERY penny The 3D bubble liner keeps me cool in the summer and warm in colder weather.

[sometimesido]

So, something random.
I was hanging out at a scooter shop my buddy works at in Decatur, GA and they just got some new shipment in for lady's jacket and gloves.

Thought it was cute.



Hi Res to see the sparkle:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/...52940374_o.jpg

[Purspeed]

Originally Posted by sometimesido

anyone seen this article?
Airbag.

http://kakimotodotcom.blogspot.com/2...e-air-bag.html

I have been following the development of the Dainese D-Air system since its inception (and purchase from another company).

I don't see this system coming to the U.S. or even in production any time soon.

It's unfortunate because it seems extremely promising.

[sometimesido]

poop.
we always get jipped.
cell phone technology for instance, takes 2 damn years to get here from korea. (samsung, LG, etc.)

[miks]

Look at that helmet and jacket, so many wirly swirly girly things.

[SF-Dug]

If you gonna buy clothing with armor or armor by itself make sure it is CE rated. Anything that is not CE rated is as good as junk IMHO.

[lavid2002]

Quote:

5 years

Why? This helmet only had some dust on it. I cleaned it up and honest....The thing looks BRAND new... Ill post pix when the new wind screen gets here. My uncle wor it for a few months then decided it was too constrictive and he bought a 3/4 shell. I planned on buying a new helmet anyways and keeping this one for if and when I ride 2 up. But anyways...whats wrong with it? Does it turn bad after 5 years or what? lol

Edit: Figured I would prove it :P even though the $20.00 clear replacement face sheild I ordered hasnt arrived I figured I would snap some pix double time.




P.S. That is munitions crab in the last picture. The pix were taken on my ammunition reloading bench. Hes a crab that I toss on it and he earned the name "munitions" crab. lol

[Buffalony]

http://www.mxdirtrider.com/h-resourc...our-helmet.htm

be the judge

[lavid2002]

A safety motorcycle helmet's useful service life, usually three to five years, is dependent upon the intensity and frequency of its use.

Depending upon its frequency of use. It was made a long time ago but was only used for MONTHS. It looks like its brand new. Even when I consider the 4 circumstances under wich a helmet should be replaced according to the article....

1. The helmet was subject to an impact.

Never

2. The comfort padding or the retention system has become loose due to heavy use, or they display signs of deterioration.

Nope, retention system is in excellent condition. The padding is in great condition too....see the pic?

3. The synthetic foam padding displays signs of heavy use and the helmet feels too loose.

Helmet was never "heavily used" and it doesn't show signs of ANY use. Helmet fits snugly around my whole head.

4. There are cracks or compression in the EPS liner and/or white spidering can be seen on surfaces of the EPS liner.

No cracks and no spidering.


5)Does the helmet meet snell, DOT, and munitions crab standards?

Yes.....lol :P

[kkim]

if you don't want to take advice, why ask for it?

it's your head, do what you want. I wouldn't use it and depend on that helmet to save my life in a serious crash. your opinion may differ.

this is not a debate... people have shown you recommendations based on past industry standards. if you feel lucky and fell you know more than industry experts, ignore the warnings.

gl

edit- this is from the the webpage of the manufacturer of your helmt, HJC...

Q: How long can a helmet last?

A: HJC Helmets are constructed with the best materials available to offer you a long lasting product. However, due to the fact that helmets are used in a wide variety of conditions, it is impossible to specify an exact product life span. Due to UV damage, adhesive and component aging, and other, HJC recommends changing a helmet every 3 to 5 years.

HELMET USAGE


Helmet Replacement (All Models)

Although your HJC Helmet is constructed with the best materials available to offer a long-lasting product, it will eventually need to be replaced. Immediately replace your helmet if:

• It has suffered an impact. Your helmet is only designed for ONE impact. An impact may fracture the outer shell or compress the impact absorbing liner. You may not be able to detect this damage. Any impact in a crash or a drop from as low as 4 feet is enough to damage your helmet.

• The shell, lining, or retention system is damaged. The helmet shell, the impact absorbing lining, and the retention system must be in good condition to provide you with the most protection.


Even if your helmet has not been damaged, it needs to be replaced every 3 to 5 years depending on how much you use it. Over time, UV rays and adhesive and component aging will damage your helmet. Wearing a damaged helmet may increase your risk of serious injury or death in an accident.

If you are unsure if you need to replace your helmet, contact HJC America before using your helmet again.

[lavid2002]

if you don't want to take advice, why ask for it?

Chill out bro I never said I dont wana take your advice. Im just a little hesitant about scrapping a helmet that seems fine to me. Im asking why.

Edit:

this is not a debate... people have shown you recommendations based on past industry standards. if you feel lucky and fell you know more than industry experts, ignore the warnings.

I never said it was a debate. Also...the comment on me knowing more than industry experts is bullshit. I never said I did, I simply provided answers to the questions online telling me why I should replace my helmet. Somone posted a link that gave me information on why I should replace my helmet. This helmet doesnt have a crack it hasnt been in a crash the strap is fine etc... etc... Does the foam deteriorate over time or what? I never said it was a debate....It is however a discussion

Even if your helmet has not been damaged, it needs to be replaced every 3 to 5 years depending on how much you use it. Over time, UV rays and adhesive and component aging will damage your helmet. Wearing a damaged helmet may increase your risk of serious injury or death in an accident.

This thing was stored in the basement so UV rays aren't a problem. Im guessing the reason I should throw this thing out then is because of the adhesive aging?

[kkim]

Originally Posted by lavid2002

Chill out bro I never said I dont wana take your advice. Im just a little hesitant about scrapping a helmet that seems fine to me. Im asking why.

what do you think any of us that spend hundreds on helmets feel when it's time to retire them?

[lavid2002]

what do you think any of us that spend hundreds on helmets feel when it's time to retire them?

I dunno. I never knew you retired helmets. Just like im sure I know allot more about the shooting sports than you do. You know allot more about cycling than I do. Thats why im here askin you guys.


So the ultimate reason why I should throw this thing out is because the glue has aged and become useless?

[Alex]

I dunno, what I've always heard is that the polysterene liner itself isn't guaranteed to behave the same, i.e. crush at the appropriate rate, of you were to have a crash with an older helmet, as that liner ages and becomes more brittle. That crushing is what decelerates your head in as safe a manner as possible, and in turn helps protect against brain injury. The pics you loaded do show a helmet in damn good condition, and I'm not sure I'd immediately toss it either, if everything continues to feel supple and does not feel or appear damaged in any way from sun or any other long-term exposure. There are no laws on the books about when a helmet is no longer "legal", DOT certification doesn't expire at 60 months, and nobody's going to get in any trouble for using an old helmet. But it's unlikely to me that it will perform exactly as well as a new one would; and it's how much you believe that difference to be, a tiny inconsequential difference or a larger more significant difference. Up to you.

[lavid2002]

The pics you loaded do show a helmet in damn good condition, and I'm not sure I'd immediately toss it either, if everything continues to feel supple and does not feel or appear damaged in any way from sun or any other long-term exposure.

Hard to beleive this baby is as old as she is right?

[Buffalony]

Yeah it's a tough one. like I said you be the jugde.
Personally in that situation. I'd probably just get a new one online. maybe I'd use that one until the new one shipped in.

Alex is right about the age of the liner. It is designed to crush at a certain rate. Theres other factors to consider as well. Like wether or not it's storage environment had an any effect on its integrity
or if it was dropped. A dropped helmet doesn't always show signs it was dropped.

Beside chances are a newer helmet will protect your egg better than that helmet would if it were brand new, due to advances in testing/technology/production etc etc etc blah blah. I'd just get a new one.

BUT if your really set on using that one, then I'd recommend contacting HJC to see what they say. Some one correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they'll actually test it if desired??? Who knows what cost this would entail? I don't. maybe nothing but shipping! Contact em. Hope we helped some.

[lavid2002]

Nah not worth it. Ill just swipe a new helmet this spring when I get my bike. Ill use this one for my BRC though. Its on a closed course with no other vehicles. The only crash I will be looking at is me on the ground at less than 20 MPH. Ill trust this sucker with that.

[Buffalony]

Protect ur egg
Let us know what kinda helmet you get. We have alot of experience with those so be sure to post any questions you have.

[Sound Wave]

as far as quality goes, which company is better? bohn or dainese? i got some icon field armor shorts, and frankly, they don't feel like they would do much in a crash. they feel like a lightly padded spandex boxer-briefs. looking for a replacement shorts.

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/...21-BOHN-8.html

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/...t--637946.html

the bohn's seem more substantial, but i am wondering why the dainese costs more. is it a better brand? won't be using these for the track because... we have no track. just protection against a crash. is there anything better in this price range from a different company? thanks for any help.