Dude, I had to lay it down

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 08:03 PM

No dude, you didn't.

It's a common phrase in the motorcycling world "I had to lay it down or else blah blah blah would have happened" but what it really means is "I do not posses the confidence nor ability to properly ride a motorcycle" When people panic and don't know what to do, they lay it down. If you think the plastic of your bike and your skin scraping across the ground is going to slow you down faster than rubber on asphalt then maybe you should start driving one of those Flinstones cars. If you think giving up all control over the situation is the best answer then, then, then I don't even know what to say because of how stupid that statement is.

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 08:07 PM

@matha028, have fun

Feel free to post your story and we can discuss how that was the worst decision you could have made.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 08:08 PM

im sure you saw my video. bro, you and i both know i had to lay er down

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 08:11 PM

I do not recall, and yet I still disagree

YMCMB · August 13th, 2012, 08:14 PM

Jiggles don't lay down bikes. He gets in unfortunate accidents caused by others obnoxious stupidity.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 08:14 PM

ill see your disagreeal and raise you a video

Link to original page on YouTube.

long story short; i was looking in blind spot, cagers slowed down, looked back forward, had to lay er down

Trailerboy531 · August 13th, 2012, 08:20 PM

Uh....not exactly. Would have had to change your pants but you could have saved that.

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ill see your disagreeal and raise you a video

Link to original page on YouTube.

long story short; i was looking in blind spot, cagers slowed down, looked back forward, had to lay er down

Uhm, no you didn't have to lay her down and you also didn't choose to do that. You locked the front and crashed on your own. If you had braked properly you would not have hit the car evidenced by the bike stopping in time from plastic skidding on the pavement

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 08:22 PM

nah man i had to. i had to

krolinked · August 13th, 2012, 08:23 PM

BRO. He had to.

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

nah man i had to. i had to

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

cuong-nutz · August 13th, 2012, 09:22 PM

Michael, how long have you been riding on the street? You were going too fast for traffic and even seeing the cars in front braking you still continue to carry your speed. It doesn't help that you were in a low gear so engine breaking is nonefficient.

Could have saved it by going left but looked like in the video you had no choice but to dump it. Practice setting your speed/gear and looking for exit strategy. Always look at traffic at least 5 cars ahead of your direction of travel.

menikmati · August 13th, 2012, 09:25 PM

Should've been looking for an exit route towards the left of the SUV as soon as you saw their signal go on. It also helps to keep track of the cars ahead of the one closest to you so you can survey the traffic situation and prepare to squeeze the brakes.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 09:25 PM

ive been riding since last october and this happened early july. yes i know what i did wrong and what i could have done. but bro, i had to lay er down

menikmati · August 13th, 2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ive been riding since last october and this happened early july. yes i know what i did wrong and what i could have done. but bro, i had to lay er down

No wai.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by menikmati

No wai.

wey

menikmati · August 13th, 2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

wey

dang.

cuong-nutz · August 13th, 2012, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ive been riding since last october and this happened early july. yes i know what i did wrong and what i could have done. but bro, i had to lay er down

It happens and glad you're alright

It's a learning experience.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 09:31 PM

thanks haha, ive been practicing emergency braking coming up to stop lights. with no one behind me of course

i still dont know how far i can squeeze that brake before it locks though

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

thanks haha, ive been practicing emergency braking coming up to stop lights. with no one behind me of course

i still dont know how far i can squeeze that brake before it locks though

It won't lock, it will loop. It only locks when you grab it too fast. A firm even squeeze until you hit maximum braking.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 09:36 PM

oh i see

csmith12 · August 13th, 2012, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

i still dont know how far i can squeeze that brake before it locks though

On a loose surface, not very hard but most likely harder than you might think.
On a clean, dry, warm surface with warm tires, you can pull it progressively until the rear wheel comes off the ground.
On a clean, dry, cool surface with warm tires, you can pull it progressively until skid or rear wheel comes off the ground.

The trick is to be very quick with your corrective reaction, which should be to ease up on the brake and reapply. These skills are best learned on a dirt bike at slower speeds and of course.... in the dirt, not on pavement.

R1Chronicles · August 13th, 2012, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

had to lay er down

You didn't have to lay that down, get better, quickly.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1Chronicles

You didn't have to lay that down, get better, quickly.

BRO. i. had. to.

aShifty · August 13th, 2012, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YMCMB

Jiggles don't lay down bikes. He gets in unfortunate accidents caused by others obnoxious stupidity.

jiggles didnt really have a choice in his situation.

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 10:02 PM

I tried to lay it down but couldn't lock the front quick enough

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I tried to lay it down but couldn't lock the front quick enough

review the video posted earlier for helpful hints and tips for when you gotta lay er down

Mountain Dew · August 13th, 2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

BRO. i. had. to.

It wasn't funny the first time, and it certainly wasn't funny the fourth time.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

It wasn't funny the first time, and it certainly wasn't funny the fourth time.

sorry, i guess im not as good of a troll as jiggles

R1Chronicles · August 13th, 2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

BRO. i. had. to.

Change your mindset quickly and get better, if you think you had to lay that down, four wheels might be better for you bro.

I'm not being nice for a reason!

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

yes i know what i did wrong and what i could have done.

ok for srs. this was the first time i really had to make an emergency stop. ^ this.

Bars werent straight, i wasnt straight up and down, i grabbed the brake too quickly, i shouldnt have sped up. anything else? /endsrs

aShifty · August 13th, 2012, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ok for srs. this was the first time i really had to make an emergency stop. ^ this.

Bars werent straight, i wasnt straight up and down, i grabbed the brake too quickly, i shouldnt have sped up. anything else? /endsrs

i actually locked my front the other night. some car started to pull out onto street. she was already almost in my lane so i braked locked front but quickly released. instinct i guess? but i didnt lay er duwn

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aShifty

i actually locked my front the other night. some car started to pull out onto street. she was already almost in my lane so i braked locked front but quickly released. instinct i guess? but i didnt lay er duwn

nice man

R1Chronicles · August 13th, 2012, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ok for srs. this was the first time i really had to make an emergency stop. ^ this.

Bars werent straight, i wasnt straight up and down, i grabbed the brake too quickly, i shouldnt have sped up. anything else? /endsrs

Bars werent straight, bull****!

I counted 7-8 seconds of knowing the traffic was packing up with lots of warning that the driver wanted to grab the right hand lane. (thats a long shoulder check)
- Me I would've been as left as could (riding the yellow line) and took him on the left
- You could've also stopped the bike, watch your motion on your handle bars, you turn them hard to the right when you brake, why? Your bars were prefect for a stop before you caused your own crash. Only reason I would've taken him on the left is I would've been scared s***less of a cager ramming up my ass if I stopped. Yes I've been in many circumstances exactly like that, you probably will too if you ride for long.

Get better, quickly (yes I'm an ahole today)

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1Chronicles

Bars werent straight, bull****!

I counted 7-8 seconds of knowing the traffic was packing up with lots of warning that the driver wanted to grab the right hand lane. (thats a long shoulder check)
- Me I would've been as left as could (riding the yellow line) and took him on the left
- You could've also stopped the bike, watch your motion on your handle bars, you turn them hard to the right when you brake, why? Your bars were prefect for a stop before you caused your own crash. Only reason I would've taken him on the left is I would've been scared s***less of a cager ramming up my ass if I stopped. Yes I've been in many circumstances exactly like that, you probably will too if you ride for long.

Get better, quickly (yes I'm an ahole today)

ok thanks man

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 11:05 PM

nickjpass · August 13th, 2012, 11:08 PM

I've learned a lot about braking on dirt. I've learned to brake with the terrain. Different terrain, different techniques. You could have stopped that bike. Plenty of room.

Old Lemon · August 13th, 2012, 11:22 PM

I'm diggin the slow mo

Jiggles · August 13th, 2012, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

I've learned a lot about braking on dirt. I've learned to brake with the terrain. Different terrain, different techniques. You could have stopped that bike. Plenty of room.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

im sure you saw my video. bro, you and i both know i had to lay er down

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

BRO. i. had. to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

ive been riding since last october and this happened early july. yes i know what i did wrong and what i could have done. but bro, i had to lay er down

Quote:

Originally Posted by krolinked

BRO. He had to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

nah man i had to. i had to

NICK Y U NO READ GUD!?

x

August 13th, 2012, 08:03 PM	#1
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Dude, I had to lay it down No dude, you didn't. It's a common phrase in the motorcycling world "I had to lay it down or else blah blah blah would have happened" but what it really means is "I do not posses the confidence nor ability to properly ride a motorcycle" When people panic and don't know what to do, they lay it down. If you think the plastic of your bike and your skin scraping across the ground is going to slow you down faster than rubber on asphalt then maybe you should start driving one of those Flinstones cars. If you think giving up all control over the situation is the best answer then, then, then I don't even know what to say because of how stupid that statement is. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 13th, 2012, 08:07 PM	#2
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	@matha028, have fun Feel free to post your story and we can discuss how that was the worst decision you could have made. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 13th, 2012, 08:11 PM	#4
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I do not recall, and yet I still disagree __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 13th, 2012, 08:14 PM	#5
YMCMB YMCMBillionaire Name: Kyle Location: Tulsa, OK Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R(Wrecked&Gone), 2004 Honda CBR1000RR (Trading back to dealer for 600cc) Posts: 81	Jiggles don't lay down bikes. He gets in unfortunate accidents caused by others obnoxious stupidity. __________________________________________________

August 13th, 2012, 08:23 PM	#10
krolinked Nerd Name: Chris Location: Tujunga Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ducati Hyperstrada Posts: 672	BRO. He had to. __________________________________________________ It doesn't LOOK that steep. But you can go first...

August 13th, 2012, 08:08 PM	#3
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	im sure you saw my video. bro, you and i both know i had to lay er down

August 13th, 2012, 08:20 PM	#7
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Uh....not exactly. Would have had to change your pants but you could have saved that.

August 13th, 2012, 08:22 PM	#9
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	nah man i had to. i had to

August 13th, 2012, 09:22 PM	#13
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Michael, how long have you been riding on the street? You were going too fast for traffic and even seeing the cars in front braking you still continue to carry your speed. It doesn't help that you were in a low gear so engine breaking is nonefficient. Could have saved it by going left but looked like in the video you had no choice but to dump it. Practice setting your speed/gear and looking for exit strategy. Always look at traffic at least 5 cars ahead of your direction of travel. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

August 13th, 2012, 09:25 PM	#14
menikmati crash 250, get supersport Name: Richard Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R SE (Sold 6/9/14), 2009 ZX-6R (Sold 6/25/14), Subaru BRZ Posts: A lot.	Should've been looking for an exit route towards the left of the SUV as soon as you saw their signal go on. It also helps to keep track of the cars ahead of the one closest to you so you can survey the traffic situation and prepare to squeeze the brakes.

August 13th, 2012, 09:31 PM	#20
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	thanks haha, ive been practicing emergency braking coming up to stop lights. with no one behind me of course i still dont know how far i can squeeze that brake before it locks though

August 13th, 2012, 09:36 PM	#22
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	oh i see

August 13th, 2012, 10:02 PM	#27
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I tried to lay it down but couldn't lock the front quick enough __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 13th, 2012, 11:05 PM	#37
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	__________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 13th, 2012, 11:08 PM	#38
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I've learned a lot about braking on dirt. I've learned to brake with the terrain. Different terrain, different techniques. You could have stopped that bike. Plenty of room. __________________________________________________

August 13th, 2012, 11:22 PM	#39
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I'm diggin the slow mo

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