Official 2013 Ninja 300 (and 250) Thread - Page 43

CZroe · September 28th, 2012, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Aftermarket center stand, yea, right, lol

They make them for the KLR-650 and I've seen a sporty standard bike with R1 stickers that had one (FZ1?). I'm sure it was whatever standard/sport Yamaha bike that shares the supersport R1 frame, but I'm curious and wonder if it could be thrown on an actual R1.

adouglas · September 29th, 2012, 10:34 AM

Yesterday, I sent this to AreaP via their web contact form:

Quote:

To: sales@areapnolimits.com
Sent: Fri, September 28, 2012 11:00:36 PM
Subject: AreaP contact form submitted

Comments:
Dear Santa
What I'd really like this year is a Quiet Core for the new Ninja 300. I been good. Promise.

Seriously, guys, the stainless Quiet Core on my current bike (08 Ninja 250R) is fantastic. Amazing sound, great power… the perfect compromise for the street. PLEASE release one for the 300. That bike is going to kill! Thanks and keep up the good work.

The reply this morning:

Quote:

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for the inquiry and comments. We do plan on offering a Quiet Core verson for the new 300.

Sincerely,

Kerry Bryant - President, Area P, Inc.

lgk · September 29th, 2012, 10:36 AM

So

much

win!!!!!

Surferboy120 · September 29th, 2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

Yesterday, I sent this to AreaP via their web contact form:

The reply this morning:

Yup he gave me the same response as well. The catch is that for a full system there has to be ECU management as well and thats what they too have to wait for so they can complete development. Outside of slipons I think we may have a wait before we get the full system. Waiting sucks......

wayanlam · September 29th, 2012, 10:43 AM

does anyone know or have the specs for the engine parts? i would really like to know if they are using the same engine for the US/OZ 300 models as the new 250s that are being sold here... (as in the same overall casing, etc, and possibly only needing to change the throttle body, and the crankshaft, or something to increase the stroke length)

at the moment i have no urge to buy another 250, lol... but... oh but if i can convert a stock 250 into a stock 300... oh boy... then i would have a hard time not buying the new 2013 model... well.... eventually in any case, ha ha!

edit.... and i would wait patiently for an AreaP full exhaust for the new bike if i were to get one. i love the one i have now

lgk · September 29th, 2012, 10:44 AM

you don't have to wait, there's plenty of stuff to do on your bike.

right now, you have much more power then any normally aspirated 250.

i would concentrate upgrading the suspension, and controls on the bike for now.

Mike_M · September 29th, 2012, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

Random insurance question...will it go up now that the engine is larger?

Figured I'd go ahead and register on the forum since I'll be getting my 300 here in October, and I feel I can answer this question.

First post!

I got a quote from progressive a couple days ago on a new 2012 250, and the new 300.

The bare minimum coverage they quoted me for the whole year on the 250 was ~180 for the whole year, and the 300 was around 260ish for the whole year. The package with the best coverage all around was around 4-500 a year difference, but I don't remember the exact prices.

So, yes.

n4mwd · September 29th, 2012, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

They make them for the KLR-650 and I've seen a sporty standard bike with R1 stickers that had one (FZ1?). I'm sure it was whatever standard/sport Yamaha bike that shares the supersport R1 frame, but I'm curious and wonder if it could be thrown on an actual R1.

Might be some way to get a pregen center stand and bolt it on somehow.

Jiggles · September 29th, 2012, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_M

The bare minimum coverage they quoted me for the whole year on the 250 was ~180 for the whole year, and the 300 was around 260ish for the whole year. The package with the best coverage all around was around 4-500 a year difference, but I don't remember the exact prices.

So, yes.

Don't get minimum coverage. If you can't afford full coverage you can't afford the bike

Mike_M · September 29th, 2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Don't get minimum coverage. If you can't afford full coverage you can't afford the bike

Haha, my premium is going to be atleast around 1,600. Those were just the prices I remembered. Just trying to show that there is a 100$ difference in premiums even in the lowest ones.

n4mwd · September 29th, 2012, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_M

Haha, my premium is going to be atleast around 1,600. Those were just the prices I remembered. Just trying to show that there is a 100$ difference in premiums even in the lowest ones.

Just for curiosity I ran a quote through progressive to see what they would charge. Turns out they don't have a listing for ninja 300R so it falls under "Other sport bike not listed". The premium came to about $1650. When I changed the bike to EX250 with a 298 cc engine, the premium dropped to about $600. That was full coverage + $25K medical.

You might want to do that if when you run your quote. At least until they get a Ninja 300R in the drop down menu.

algs26 · September 29th, 2012, 11:09 PM

Took some pics at the dealer. Tried to capture the sparkly white.

Kstorm21 · September 29th, 2012, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by algs26

Took some pics at the dealer. Tried to capture the sparkly white.

Is it a vampire??? It sparkles?? SOLD!!! (but seriously, it does sparkle?)

Alex · September 29th, 2012, 11:35 PM

It sparkles.

There's just a hint of metal flake in the paint, so in the sunlight it has an extra pop. Pictures make it look like a flat white, but it stands out more in person.

Kstorm21 · September 29th, 2012, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex

it sparkles.

There's just a hint of metal flake in the paint, so in the sunlight it has an extra pop. Pictures make it look like a flat white, but it stands out more in person.

awesome!

n4mwd · September 30th, 2012, 06:06 AM

I'm surprised that they used the older Kawi-Green instead of the 2012 green.

Stamatos · September 30th, 2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

I'm surprised that they used the older Kawi-Green instead of the 2012 green.

This!
I'm addicted to my candy lime now and can't imagine owning a ninja without it.

Heed · September 30th, 2012, 09:32 AM

I'm not that surprised. I thought I liked the 'puke' Candy Lime Green but it seems a little obnoxious IMO.

choneofakind · September 30th, 2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

Turns out they don't have a listing for ninja 300R

That's because it's not a 300R, just a 300. No joke, that R makes a difference with the insurance prices

Isn't it fraud to claim that your Ninja 300 is a Ninja 250R with a larger engine? It's a totally different bike. I wouldn't claim a 300 as a 250R because i would be worried that the insurance company would say, "we won't cover your 300 because we have a policy for your 250R, not your 300" if I ever needed to make an insurance claim.

Stamatos · September 30th, 2012, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heed

I'm not that surprised. I thought I liked the 'puke' Candy Lime Green but it seems a little obnoxious IMO.

I'm into obnoxious as long as I get noticed and I get a lot of compliments on it. If I was going to go for bad ass, I'd likely just do black. I do like the new white too, though.

lgk · September 30th, 2012, 11:15 AM

my insurance co lists it as a Kawasaki EX300.

it only costs an additional $50/yr over the EX250 for the same coverages.

Mike_M · September 30th, 2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

That's because it's not a 300R, just a 300. No joke, that R makes a difference with the insurance prices

Isn't it fraud to claim that your Ninja 300 is a Ninja 250R with a larger engine? It's a totally different bike. I wouldn't claim a 300 as a 250R because i would be worried that the insurance company would say, "we won't cover your 300 because we have a policy for your 250R, not your 300" if I ever needed to make an insurance claim.

With Progressive online you list it as a 2013, Kawasaki, "other street sport not listed", and put in how many cc it is. If you call instead of buying online you should get the same quote, and as long as the VIN you give them is for the 300 you would be fine. Hopefully the premium will go down alittle once they get it officially listed.

Mike_M · September 30th, 2012, 11:41 AM

Are there alot of dealers price gouging since these bikes just came out? My local dealer is charging below MSRP, but isn't even putting the ones they have on the floor yet, because they want to get rid of all their 250's to people who come in and don't know about the 300.

lgk · September 30th, 2012, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Isn't it fraud to claim that your Ninja 300 is a Ninja 250R with a larger engine? It's a totally different bike. I wouldn't claim a 300 as a 250R because i would be worried that the insurance company would say, "we won't cover your 300 because we have a policy for your 250R, not your 300" if I ever needed to make an insurance claim.

they should have the VIN to help them but why take the risk.
always get them to put the correct info on the policy paperwork.

this way everything works out easy.

i find its better to talk to someone on the phone.
this way you have a contact in case anything goes wrong.

Jiggles · September 30th, 2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

That's because it's not a 300R, just a 300. No joke, that R makes a difference with the insurance prices

Isn't it fraud to claim that your Ninja 300 is a Ninja 250R with a larger engine? It's a totally different bike. I wouldn't claim a 300 as a 250R because i would be worried that the insurance company would say, "we won't cover your 300 because we have a policy for your 250R, not your 300" if I ever needed to make an insurance claim.

That's just for quoting purposes, your rate is determined by the VIN

Alex · September 30th, 2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Isn't it fraud to claim that your Ninja 300 is a Ninja 250R with a larger engine? It's a totally different bike. I wouldn't claim a 300 as a 250R because i would be worried that the insurance company would say, "we won't cover your 300 because we have a policy for your 250R, not your 300" if I ever needed to make an insurance claim.

I wouldn't think that's fraud, if the insurance company has the valid VIN and description of the bike. If they are writing the policy and accepting the premium, and their system doesn't take a new bike so the company fudges in a similar bike, I think it would be hard for them to deny a claim by suggesting that it was fraud. The VIN should give them everything they need.

edit: wow, I should have jumped to the next page before replying. seems like people already have this covered.

choneofakind · September 30th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Ohhh, that makes sense. I was just thinking it might cause potential issues.

n4mwd · September 30th, 2012, 04:20 PM

Since I didn't have a valid VIN, I just left that part blank. I do think that a "300 cc Ninja 250" is a better description than "other 300cc sport bike" which could be interpreted as half a ZX-6R. It might be half a Ninja 650, but not a ZX-6R. I don't think that's fraud, but Insurance companies are master weasels. Progressive even jumped tables on one guy and argued that their own insured was at fault so they could get out of paying him his uninsured motor vehicle claim.

choneofakind · September 30th, 2012, 04:22 PM

funny part is that the 300 literally IS half of a zx6r

But I get what you're saying D

Jiggles · September 30th, 2012, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

funny part is that the 300 literally IS half of a zx6r

But I get what you're saying D

Are you completely retarded or just half retarded??? The 300 is a 296cc engine and the zx6r is a 599cc. Explain to me how the **** the "300 LITERALLY IS HALF OF A ZX6R"

Jesus christ, this forum is filled with ignorant fools

just f'n witcha brah

choneofakind · September 30th, 2012, 04:31 PM

hahahaw welllllll

maybe not LITERALLY

but it is.

You know it

Mike_M · September 30th, 2012, 04:37 PM

Oops, when I did it I put it as 298cc.

n4mwd · September 30th, 2012, 05:21 PM

I was thinking in terms of HP. HP is pretty much what defines a sport bike. A 600 has two injectors per intake and so there are eight of them. That's about 110 HP at the wheel as compared to 65 HP for the 650 and 32 HP for the 300. So in terms of HP, the 300 is closer to half the 650 than half the 600. But its better defined as a 300 cc 250.

choneofakind · September 30th, 2012, 05:47 PM

I had no idea there were two injectors per cylinder in a 600. Cool! That's how they managed to use massive TB's for top end and use small enough injectors that the minimum pulse length doesn't flood the engine at idle. Why didn't I think of that when I was pondering how they managed it?? Cool.

n4mwd · September 30th, 2012, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

I had no idea there were two injectors per cylinder in a 600. Cool! That's how they managed to use massive TB's for top end and use small enough injectors that the minimum pulse length doesn't flood the engine at idle. Why didn't I think of that when I was pondering how they managed it?? Cool.

Like I said, Kawasaki engineers are geniuses.

DaveTheCanuck · October 1st, 2012, 12:35 PM

Placed my deposit on one today. It's official, I'm not sleeping for the next month.

n4mwd · October 1st, 2012, 12:41 PM

When you get your Ninja 300, don't forget to go here and fill out your MPG for Alex's gas mileage poll. We still don't have a good sample, but we are starting to get a clear picture.

Kstorm21 · October 1st, 2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTheCanuck

Placed my deposit on one today. It's official, I'm not sleeping for the next month.

Which one are you getting?

DaveTheCanuck · October 1st, 2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

Which one are you getting?

Red, non-ABS.

ABS models won't be available in Canada until January apparently. Too expensive anyways.

n4mwd · October 1st, 2012, 01:00 PM

My dealer just called and said he has a white one in stock. I'm going over to look at it tomorrow.

September 29th, 2012, 10:36 AM	#1683
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	So much win!!!!! __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

September 29th, 2012, 10:43 AM	#1685
wayanlam ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Wayan Location: Bali - Indonesia Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Z250 Posts: A lot.	does anyone know or have the specs for the engine parts? i would really like to know if they are using the same engine for the US/OZ 300 models as the new 250s that are being sold here... (as in the same overall casing, etc, and possibly only needing to change the throttle body, and the crankshaft, or something to increase the stroke length) at the moment i have no urge to buy another 250, lol... but... oh but if i can convert a stock 250 into a stock 300... oh boy... then i would have a hard time not buying the new 2013 model... well.... eventually in any case, ha ha! edit.... and i would wait patiently for an AreaP full exhaust for the new bike if i were to get one. i love the one i have now __________________________________________________ Kawasaki Z250, Bored up to 300cc with 12.8 CR, 41hp at wheel 27nm torque, Two bros full exhaust with DB killer Dynojet Power Commander V, KnN Open filter, intake and exhaust ported, Puig Windshield

September 29th, 2012, 10:44 AM	#1686
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	you don't have to wait, there's plenty of stuff to do on your bike. right now, you have much more power then any normally aspirated 250. i would concentrate upgrading the suspension, and controls on the bike for now. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

September 29th, 2012, 11:35 PM	#1694
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	It sparkles. There's just a hint of metal flake in the paint, so in the sunlight it has an extra pop. Pictures make it look like a flat white, but it stands out more in person. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 30th, 2012, 06:06 AM	#1696
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	I'm surprised that they used the older Kawi-Green instead of the 2012 green. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

September 30th, 2012, 09:32 AM	#1698
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	I'm not that surprised. I thought I liked the 'puke' Candy Lime Green but it seems a little obnoxious IMO. __________________________________________________ The Rush is Addictive

September 30th, 2012, 11:15 AM	#1701
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	my insurance co lists it as a Kawasaki EX300. it only costs an additional $50/yr over the EX250 for the same coverages. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

September 30th, 2012, 11:41 AM	#1703
Mike_M ninjette.org newbie Name: Mike Location: Hammond, LA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Getting a Ninja 300 in October 2012! Posts: 5	Are there alot of dealers price gouging since these bikes just came out? My local dealer is charging below MSRP, but isn't even putting the ones they have on the floor yet, because they want to get rid of all their 250's to people who come in and don't know about the 300.

September 30th, 2012, 01:53 PM	#1707
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Ohhh, that makes sense. I was just thinking it might cause potential issues.

September 30th, 2012, 04:20 PM	#1708
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Since I didn't have a valid VIN, I just left that part blank. I do think that a "300 cc Ninja 250" is a better description than "other 300cc sport bike" which could be interpreted as half a ZX-6R. It might be half a Ninja 650, but not a ZX-6R. I don't think that's fraud, but Insurance companies are master weasels. Progressive even jumped tables on one guy and argued that their own insured was at fault so they could get out of paying him his uninsured motor vehicle claim. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

September 30th, 2012, 04:22 PM	#1709
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	funny part is that the 300 literally IS half of a zx6r But I get what you're saying D

September 30th, 2012, 04:31 PM	#1711
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	hahahaw welllllll maybe not LITERALLY but it is. You know it

September 30th, 2012, 04:37 PM	#1712
Mike_M ninjette.org newbie Name: Mike Location: Hammond, LA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Getting a Ninja 300 in October 2012! Posts: 5	Oops, when I did it I put it as 298cc.

September 30th, 2012, 05:21 PM	#1713
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	I was thinking in terms of HP. HP is pretty much what defines a sport bike. A 600 has two injectors per intake and so there are eight of them. That's about 110 HP at the wheel as compared to 65 HP for the 650 and 32 HP for the 300. So in terms of HP, the 300 is closer to half the 650 than half the 600. But its better defined as a 300 cc 250. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

September 30th, 2012, 05:47 PM	#1714
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I had no idea there were two injectors per cylinder in a 600. Cool! That's how they managed to use massive TB's for top end and use small enough injectors that the minimum pulse length doesn't flood the engine at idle. Why didn't I think of that when I was pondering how they managed it?? Cool.

October 1st, 2012, 12:35 PM	#1716
DaveTheCanuck Moo Name: David Location: Toronto'ish, Canada Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 103	Placed my deposit on one today. It's official, I'm not sleeping for the next month.

October 1st, 2012, 12:41 PM	#1717
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	When you get your Ninja 300, don't forget to go here and fill out your MPG for Alex's gas mileage poll. We still don't have a good sample, but we are starting to get a clear picture. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

October 1st, 2012, 01:00 PM	#1720
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	My dealer just called and said he has a white one in stock. I'm going over to look at it tomorrow. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

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