AFM Round 1 Buttonwillow: Full Races

Jiggles · March 24th, 2014, 04:50 PM

Going to post up my three races from this weekend. First up is Novice 500 Twins. I came in 3rd of 8. One of the two guys I was battling for fourth with ended up going off track after I'd passed him and so did one guy in front of me which put me into 3rd

Enjoy!

Constructive criticism and negative feedback are much appreciated :P

Novice 500 Twins race

Link to original page on YouTube.

Novice 250 superbike. In this race as soon as I passed tiff I went as fast as I could to make sure she couldn't pass me, little did I know she had given up on that race

Link to original page on YouTube.

sjc88 · March 24th, 2014, 05:20 PM

1st criticism, your video is private....

Jiggles · March 24th, 2014, 05:29 PM

What the ass ****ing youtube

alex.s · March 24th, 2014, 05:30 PM

fix your tube, youwhore!

Jiggles · March 24th, 2014, 05:33 PM

Fixed, so stupid that they auto private the videos now.

Jiggles · March 25th, 2014, 10:41 AM

I told you guys 250s are faster than 300s :P

tfkrocks · March 25th, 2014, 10:45 AM

I wanna be a cool racer like Jiggles

Jiggles · March 25th, 2014, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

I wanna be a cool racer like Jiggles

http://www.afmracing.org/index.php/a...sonoma-raceway

May 3rd + 4th

tfkrocks · March 25th, 2014, 11:08 AM

I don't have money from crashing like you do

Jiggles · March 25th, 2014, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

I don't have money from crashing like you do

Thats fine, its only $99 for the whole weekend!

Trailerboy531 · March 25th, 2014, 11:37 AM

Less brakes. More go fast.

Trailerboy531 · March 25th, 2014, 11:38 AM

In zones where you find yourself using slight braking try rolling off and maybe dropping a gear instead. Feel the bike settle, feel the front tire load a little and plant. Maintenance throttle then power out.

alex.s · March 25th, 2014, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

In zones where you find yourself using slight braking try rolling off and maybe dropping a gear instead. Feel the bike settle, feel the front tire load a little and plant. Maintenance throttle then power out.

instead of doing this and washing your front out, don't do any of that and just turn the bike while staying WOT.

Jiggles · March 25th, 2014, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

In zones where you find yourself using slight braking try rolling off and maybe dropping a gear instead. Feel the bike settle, feel the front tire load a little and plant. Maintenance throttle then power out.

Will do!

csmith12 · March 25th, 2014, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

instead of doing this and washing your front out, don't do any of that and just turn the bike while staying WOT.

Sirref · March 25th, 2014, 04:56 PM

^ wait, how is that the case if doing so makes you less likely to crash?

alex.s · March 25th, 2014, 04:58 PM

add turning, or gas, or braking. but not at the same time. if you are already at WOT, you can add turning without losing the front. just don't crank the bars.... even if you do crank them when you're upright, it doesn't even matter if you're on the gas, it just chirps at first

alex.s · March 25th, 2014, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

^ wait, how is that the case if doing so makes you less likely to crash?

bcuz its scawy to go fasts

Sirref · March 25th, 2014, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

bcuz its scawy to go fasts

I guess I've never really gone fast then.

Trailerboy531 · March 25th, 2014, 05:55 PM

oh! and as a frequent crasher I can tell you to be very conscious of how hard you weight the bars.

Protip - don't do it. Use your feet on the pegs. It helps you feel the bike more and lets it work itself out beneath you. Wiggle your fingers (like spirit fingers) in the turns to see how your death grip on the bars is.

Sirref · March 25th, 2014, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

oh! and as a frequent crasher I can tell you to be very conscious of how hard you weight the bars.

Protip - don't do it. Use your feet on the pegs. It helps you feel the bike more and lets it work itself out beneath you. Wiggle your fingers (like spirit fingers) in the turns to see how your death grip on the bars is.

that's a pretty cool tip, typically I lift my fingers completely off so only my palm is on the bar with the left hand so I'm not actually holding the bar to have a death grip but that's trickier with the right hand since you're rolling on the throttle.

One thing to add is to make sure that your outside leg is locked onto the tank properly, once it is everything feels like it falls into place. It's probably easier with rearsets than the stock pegs but it's possible to get the feeling with the stock pegs for me. The feeling being pressure from both the outside foot on the peg and the outside knee in the tank, really makes you feel like you're locked onto the bike when you dip it lower to the ground.

csmith12 · March 25th, 2014, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

I guess I've never really gone fast then.

Interesting stuff here, I need to update that thread.

Sirref · March 25th, 2014, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Interesting stuff here, I need to update that thread.

was that with your 250 or r6? makes a pretty big difference when it comes to WOT power. I feel like I can wrestle my 300 to take a good line without letting off the throttle but I can imagine that it would be more difficult to do that on a supersport 600. Not sure about chicanes though, I don't come across those very often and when I do I don't really push the envelope.

csmith12 · March 25th, 2014, 06:31 PM

It was the r6, but think about that for a moment.... If I can wrestle the r6 down with a good forceful countersteer, then the 250/300 will be more manageable. Alex is right, but take care with those words. Like my pic above, takes some "balls" and a good feel for what is going on with the bike. Build one's skills to that level, don't rush it and don't just go blindly searching for it, because it can and will put you on your bum, been there... done that...

Sirref · March 25th, 2014, 06:38 PM

I've been on my bum from trying to go too quick too soon, I learned that one early on. Kinda sucks when it happens.

Looking at the track map for my local track, shenandoah at summit point, WV There is a chicane portion so I'll know how I'll take it this summer. Then again the whole track looks like a complicated paradise with each and every corner being it's own challenge. I love whoever designed it. 22 corners of pure bliss.
http://summitpoint-raceway.com/track...ndoah-circuit/

damn, just thinking about it gives me chills. One thing at a time though, gotta build my track bike from the ground up first.

Jiggles · March 25th, 2014, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

oh! and as a frequent crasher I can tell you to be very conscious of how hard you weight the bars.

Protip - don't do it. Use your feet on the pegs. It helps you feel the bike more and lets it work itself out beneath you. Wiggle your fingers (like spirit fingers) in the turns to see how your death grip on the bars is.

Yea I'd notice sometimes I grip the bars too hard but always when those bumps came up I was sure to be loose

Novice 250 superbike. In this race as soon as I passed tiff I went as fast as I could to make sure she couldn't pass me, little did I know she had given up on that race

Link to original page on YouTube.

ninja250r81 · March 26th, 2014, 02:51 AM

Very nice

March 24th, 2014, 04:50 PM	#1
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	AFM Round 1 Buttonwillow: Full Races Going to post up my three races from this weekend. First up is Novice 500 Twins. I came in 3rd of 8. One of the two guys I was battling for fourth with ended up going off track after I'd passed him and so did one guy in front of me which put me into 3rd Enjoy! Constructive criticism and negative feedback are much appreciated :P Novice 500 Twins race Link to original page on YouTube. Novice 250 superbike. In this race as soon as I passed tiff I went as fast as I could to make sure she couldn't pass me, little did I know she had given up on that race Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs Last futzed with by Jiggles; March 25th, 2014 at 08:47 PM.

March 24th, 2014, 05:29 PM	#3
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	What the ass ****ing youtube __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

March 24th, 2014, 05:30 PM	#4
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	fix your tube, youwhore! __________________________________________________

March 24th, 2014, 05:33 PM	#5
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Fixed, so stupid that they auto private the videos now. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

March 25th, 2014, 10:41 AM	#6
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I told you guys 250s are faster than 300s :P __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

March 24th, 2014, 05:20 PM	#2
sjc88 ninjette.org member Name: Sung Location: Torrance, CA Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 77	1st criticism, your video is private....

March 25th, 2014, 10:45 AM	#7
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	I wanna be a cool racer like Jiggles

March 25th, 2014, 11:08 AM	#9
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	I don't have money from crashing like you do

March 25th, 2014, 11:37 AM	#11
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Less brakes. More go fast. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531
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March 25th, 2014, 11:38 AM	#12
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	In zones where you find yourself using slight braking try rolling off and maybe dropping a gear instead. Feel the bike settle, feel the front tire load a little and plant. Maintenance throttle then power out. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

March 25th, 2014, 04:56 PM	#16
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	^ wait, how is that the case if doing so makes you less likely to crash?

March 25th, 2014, 04:58 PM	#17
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	add turning, or gas, or braking. but not at the same time. if you are already at WOT, you can add turning without losing the front. just don't crank the bars.... even if you do crank them when you're upright, it doesn't even matter if you're on the gas, it just chirps at first __________________________________________________
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

March 25th, 2014, 05:55 PM	#20
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	oh! and as a frequent crasher I can tell you to be very conscious of how hard you weight the bars. Protip - don't do it. Use your feet on the pegs. It helps you feel the bike more and lets it work itself out beneath you. Wiggle your fingers (like spirit fingers) in the turns to see how your death grip on the bars is. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

March 25th, 2014, 06:31 PM	#24
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	It was the r6, but think about that for a moment.... If I can wrestle the r6 down with a good forceful countersteer, then the 250/300 will be more manageable. Alex is right, but take care with those words. Like my pic above, takes some "balls" and a good feel for what is going on with the bike. Build one's skills to that level, don't rush it and don't just go blindly searching for it, because it can and will put you on your bum, been there... done that... __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

March 25th, 2014, 06:38 PM	#25
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I've been on my bum from trying to go too quick too soon, I learned that one early on. Kinda sucks when it happens. Looking at the track map for my local track, shenandoah at summit point, WV There is a chicane portion so I'll know how I'll take it this summer. Then again the whole track looks like a complicated paradise with each and every corner being it's own challenge. I love whoever designed it. 22 corners of pure bliss. http://summitpoint-raceway.com/track...ndoah-circuit/ damn, just thinking about it gives me chills. One thing at a time though, gotta build my track bike from the ground up first.

March 26th, 2014, 02:51 AM	#27
ninja250r81 ninjette.org guru Name: scott Location: australia Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r se Posts: 435	Very nice

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