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View Poll Results: What group do you run your ninjette in? | |||
A group | 8 | 32.00% | |
B group | 7 | 28.00% | |
C group | 2 | 8.00% | |
I've never done a track day. | 8 | 32.00% | |
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll |
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June 7th, 2013, 10:12 AM | #1 |
Jigglin' your Jiglets
Name: Sean
Location: San Jose, Ca
Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much.
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MOTM - Apr '13
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What Group Do You Run Your Ninjette In?
I'm just wondering what group you guys run your ninjettes in and why. Are you a podium finisher who runs in B? Or a solid B grouper who runs in C? When did you switch from C to B or B to A and why?
I want to know how you guys choose the group you run in. I found a guide on a trackday org's site that gives an estimate to break the groups up by lap time. According to that guide I'm close to the minimum B group times, with some work on my BP and braking which I intend to do at the track school, I feel I would be able to surpass the minimum B group times. Would that be a good time to switch to B or should I stick in C group still? I wouldn't want to run in B unless I was confident I could keep up.
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June 7th, 2013, 10:33 AM | #2 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Eric
Location: Iowa City
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot.
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I would say for your benefit you should switch. You will get better loosing to better riders. Than beating slower riders. But you also don't want to be in the way. Or go in over your head.
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June 7th, 2013, 10:37 AM | #3 |
Jigglin' your Jiglets
Name: Sean
Location: San Jose, Ca
Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 1
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Well I can't lose if I'm not racing I think the biggest benefit of B would be the ability to pass on the inside. A lot of times I get stuck in C behind someone because the take the widest and slowest line and I can't pass on the inside. Of course if I went to B I'd be one of the (or THE) slower riders and so that needing to pass on the inside problem wouldn't exist anymore
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June 7th, 2013, 10:58 AM | #4 |
Certified looney toon
Name: Teri
Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV)
Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 16
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Solid C group and usually back of the pack.
I've seen several C's move up to B in the few days I've been there. When seems to be determined by communication between the rider and the coaches.
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June 7th, 2013, 01:14 PM | #5 |
Ninja chick
Name: Allyson
Location: Athens, GA
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 4
MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15
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I rode C group my first three track weekends (all different tracks). Once I get to know a track after doing it once or twice, I sign up for B group. Now that I've done every track around this area, I will stick with B group.
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June 7th, 2013, 01:19 PM | #6 |
The Corner Whisperer
Name: Chris (aka Reactor)
Location: Northern KY
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much.
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Get to B as soon as you safely can. Having a control rider follow you is the best way. And in general, your only as fast as the company you keep.
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June 7th, 2013, 02:02 PM | #7 |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Ed
Location: Atlanta, GA
Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 899, 748, 250, 250, 70 Posts: 348
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You have to be careful with these kinds of generalizations. One organization's Intermediates may be as fast as another org's Advanced group. Even in the same org, one weekend's Novice group can be as quick as the next weekend's Int riders.
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June 7th, 2013, 02:09 PM | #8 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Eric
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 228
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A, B and C?
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June 7th, 2013, 02:31 PM | #9 |
Fast-Guy wannabe
Name: Jason
Location: Brentwood, Ca
Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Jan '13
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I start the day in C but after the first session they get to many complaints to they bump me to B.
After lunch they inform me that I'm scaring the B group riders so they moved me to A. After the first session in A they ask me to leave because the other riders manhood is at risk of permanent damage so I pack my stuff up and leave since my rear tire is at the cords anyways. |
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June 7th, 2013, 02:47 PM | #10 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Eric
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 228
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June 8th, 2013, 05:35 AM | #11 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Rick
Location: St Peters
Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): '09 ZX6 (street), '04 RC51 (street/track), '08 Ninja 250 (race) Posts: 104
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I control ride on my 250 in the novice group. I can also go run in the "I" group which I find really slows me down when I enter the corners. I can't get any hot laps in. The "A" group is the best for me on the 250 or a big bike for that matter. On the 250, if I need to, I'm not afraid to pass someone close to keep up my corner speed. It's fun passing big bikes in the corners after they passed you on the straight.
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June 8th, 2013, 06:05 AM | #12 |
Track Clown
Name: Chris
Location: Kingman, AZ
Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Sep '15
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Tracks I know is A, yesterday I went to my first new track in 3 years, I rode slow group because it was a race weekend and I had never been there before.
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June 8th, 2013, 05:41 PM | #13 |
Done here.
Name: -
Location: Track
Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.
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In all honesty, now that I've ran in all groups I saw for myself that groups don't mean jack **** most of the time. I've seen mid aged dudes rocking their Panigale's in A group holding everyone up cause they run Low B to high C times. I had people own me in B group one day and no one catching up to me in A group another. B is usually the most clusterf*ck in my experience. So stick to C until you're faster and just jump to A lol. In the end it doesn't matter.
I know your question was 250 specific but I don't think it matters. Unless you're all over the place with your lines and keep f*cking up you can ride any group.. The other day I saw this dude's video. The guy's laptimes are running in a range of 6 friggin seconds because he pushes and ****s up and almost take others with him a couple times. That guy can run 1 fast lap all he wants. He's not good. |
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June 8th, 2013, 05:48 PM | #14 |
Done here.
Name: -
Location: Track
Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.
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Jiggles one thing I gotta mention about passing.
We all know Nemesis is an idiot for the most part (<3) but he gave me one great advice which changed my attitude on track. I was complaining that so many slow people register for B group and ruin the experience for others. He told me I should treat before 1pm or so sessions as just passing practice. Since then I have. I don't care about my lap times as much (sure i do but ya know) and just focus on clean passing opportunities or creating them myself with wiser choice of lines. I gotta say it really helps. And what's awesome is, sometimes my fastest laps can even come on laps that i pass people because I don't lose as much time passing them. It's all a part of the experience. |
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June 8th, 2013, 05:59 PM | #15 | |
Fast-Guy wannabe
Name: Jason
Location: Brentwood, Ca
Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Jan '13
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Passing practice is a good way to put it and that's exactly what I did this last time out. I remembered back when I was still racing I'd go to a trackday to learn a new course and work on suspension settings. Everyone in A group would be so slow I could never get a full clean lap to monitor lap time progression with different changes to the bike. I would get so frustrated I would be seeing red buy lunch time and even if I did chance upon a clean lap here and there my mental game was so screwed up I couldn't do anything with it. It's hard to chill out and have fun when your on the other side of the country learning a new track that the very next day you have to beat the local track pro in every race just to make the trip profitable or your going to lose your ass and have no money for the next weeks race. I have so much more fun at trackdays now that I no longer race |
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June 8th, 2013, 07:18 PM | #16 |
Done here.
Name: -
Location: Track
Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.
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