Loud, Cool, Horsepower Goodness

RaceBikeRentals · May 18th, 2009, 05:12 PM

The Totsubo Motorsports pipes are finally ready. 2 HP more than Area P, but they are VERY loud. Like Harley loud. Great for racing or street anti-social types. Beautiful MotoGP-like looks. Not cheap, but cheap HP is never cheap

Got em in the store.

kkim · May 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM

oh, lordy... you hooligan!!

KJohnson21 · May 18th, 2009, 05:17 PM

Wow!! That looks cool. Are they two separate pipes or are they 2-1-2?

kkim · May 18th, 2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJohnson21

Wow!! That looks cool. Are they two separate pipes or are they 2-1-2?

http://store.racebikerentals.com/mer...Category_Code=

RaceBikeRentals · May 18th, 2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

oh, lordy... you hooligan!!

LOL, yeah... you should hear this thing. Sounds like a NASCAR V8! I'll have to get a sound clip recorded. Should have done it at the track - my neighbors aren't going to go for it around here.

Daeldren · May 18th, 2009, 05:30 PM

Hmm, now if only we could design some silencers for these to make them more street friendly we would have the coolest damn gp style pipes around for the 250r. I am impressed by the performance gains though and I'm definitely waiting to see vid of these in action. Thank you Richard and the Totsubo team for being so dedicated to getting the most out of the 250R I can only imagine what is yet to come. I doubt we will see anything near 125GP levels but we can dream.

Daeldren · May 18th, 2009, 06:04 PM

Wait a min, is that Wes Totsubo's company?

RaceBikeRentals · May 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM

Yessir.

Rynownd · May 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM

Let's hear these bad boys!

Mo1981 · May 18th, 2009, 07:44 PM

Man, those look sweet!
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Broom · May 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM

nice! if you need a CMRA/Texas tester let me know!

smcbride11 · May 18th, 2009, 08:14 PM

If it's possible to get a decibel meter out on one, I'd appreciate it!

New Hampshire's got a 99 dB limit for track days and while I imagine the 'jette stays lower than that even with this guy, it'd be awful to get up there and have to put a stock exhaust back on.

almost40 · May 19th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Looks SWEET. Gona make em in stainless?? Would love a set when my lil 250 becomes a track bike only.

Broom · May 19th, 2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

The Totsubo Motorsports pipes are finally ready. 2 HP more than Area P, but they are VERY loud. Like Harley loud. Great for racing or street anti-social types. Beautiful MotoGP-like looks. Not cheap, but cheap HP is never cheap

Got em in the store.

whats with the chicken strips? takin' it easy since your last big win?

RaceBikeRentals · May 19th, 2009, 11:07 AM

Hahaha... let's see YOU get a 150 rear all the way to the edge!

Snake · May 19th, 2009, 12:30 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^Oh Oh sounds like a chalenge to me!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Be sure and take pics. lol

Rocketman · May 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM

How loud is loud ?

i916it · May 19th, 2009, 10:25 PM

Wait. I'm new to this. Is this a full system (including headers or is it all one piece?)
Does that mean there's 2 seperate headers ( 2-2 ? )?
Compared to the 2-1 Yoshi full system?

Rocketman · May 20th, 2009, 02:47 AM

this system is a set of twins...2-2...so says their site

tinng321 · May 20th, 2009, 05:15 AM

the bottom pipe is touching the plastic. would it melt the plastic?

Broom · May 20th, 2009, 07:33 AM

its not plastic. these are race fairings, so they're fiberglass.

RaceBikeRentals · May 20th, 2009, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman

How loud is loud ?

Loud enough to make everyone turn their heads, but in a good way. I don't think its nearly as loud as a Harley with straight pipes. Sound is a very nice racy, bark. Very raspy and raw. On throttle, sounds awesome.

The DB meter at Infineon got me at 104db, well over their conservative limit of 101. I just switch to my Area P for the Infineon races. Takes me about 5 minutes to switch pipes.

RaceBikeRentals · May 20th, 2009, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinng321

the bottom pipe is touching the plastic. would it melt the plastic?

Depending on the brand of bodywork and how its mounted, it might touch. It does touch my Catalyst race bodywork. I'm not too worried about a small bit of burning, but I will probably apply heat tape soon. Sorry, but I have no idea if it will touch the OEM bodywork. It might.

Broom · May 20th, 2009, 07:43 AM

did you re-jet at all for the new pipes (from your area-p jetting, not from stock)? i'm assuming you did since it sounds like you've dyno'd it.

RaceBikeRentals · May 20th, 2009, 08:32 AM

I was a bit rich with the Area P at Willow Springs, so I just left it alone. Runs good.

MrTiddles · May 20th, 2009, 09:05 AM

jeez. That's awesome.

RaceBikeRentals · May 20th, 2009, 02:45 PM

Made a quick video. Hope you guys enjoy it.

Link to original page on YouTube.*

Broom · May 20th, 2009, 02:49 PM

nice. i'm sure as soon as we trash the yoshi we'll be picking up a set of these pipes.

Rocketman · May 20th, 2009, 03:09 PM

Your right...it is loud, Nice pipes

i916it · May 20th, 2009, 05:09 PM

So...what can we do about the decibel limit at the track?

Daeldren · May 20th, 2009, 08:31 PM

Awww damn, I bet that thing sounds like a bat out of hell at the track.

NinjetteMan · May 20th, 2009, 10:03 PM

Holy cow, I'm in love...as if I actually needed something else to throw eight bills at.....It makes the shorty AP sound tame, at least I think that the other bike has an AP shorty??

stroked59 · May 21st, 2009, 07:13 PM

that sounds close to my gp style exhaust from nojima..... think mine is jsut a little quiter....but yours sounds sick....

RaceBikeRentals · May 22nd, 2009, 01:45 PM

Updated the store page with a dyno chart. 2.7HP more than Area P short exhaust!

http://store.racebikerentals.com/mer...Category_Code=

Rocketman · May 22nd, 2009, 03:51 PM

I think ill wait and save more to buy that exhaust....It looks and sounds too good to pass up...79mph-83mph is that pretty accurate ? that kind of difference must be noticeable at lower speeds to is it ?

CodE-E · May 23rd, 2009, 01:22 AM

Holy sh*t, that sounds mean.

RSPILOT · May 23rd, 2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

Not cheap, but cheap HP is never cheap

What? lol

ztrack157 · May 23rd, 2009, 11:13 PM

Ok maybe someone can explain the dyno charts a little better than I can. Whats the difference between a smoothing of 3 and one of 5. You test your AP at a net 2 hp gain over stock while they have 5 on their site and equally HP to the new exhaust you sell. I know all dyno's aren't equal but does the smoothing effect this.

As for the actual exhaust it is a nice set up. I was wondering how long till someone came out with a design like this. Not to my taste but racers will like it. And like you said with the amount of work put into making those certainly not cheap. lol.

RSPILOT · May 24th, 2009, 03:52 AM

Between smoothing 3 and 5 or 0, the lower smoothing numbers will show a higher HP number due to the spikes.

Alex · May 24th, 2009, 11:15 AM

smoothing of 0 will definitely show a higher (false) HP number due to spikes, but there should be very little difference, if any, between 3 & 5. It's not magic, you can look at the chart itself and see how the curve looks as it approaches the peak and quickly determine if the peak # is a glitch/spike or if it smoothly rises to that peak and comes back down.

May 18th, 2009, 05:17 PM	#3
KJohnson21 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ken Location: Indio, CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Kawasaki EX250 "Yoshi", '99 Kawasaki Concours "Grace", '06 Concours "Belle", '06 Yamaha YZF600R "Slick" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	Wow!! That looks cool. Are they two separate pipes or are they 2-1-2? __________________________________________________ < ATGATT > Sweat you can wipe off, Road rash you can't. HEY!! Unregistered!! Does your bike have a name?

May 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM	#8
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Yessir. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

May 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM	#9
Rynownd ninjette.org guru Name: Ryne Location: West Laf, IN Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 290	Let's hear these bad boys! __________________________________________________ http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/224099

May 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM	#11
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	nice! if you need a CMRA/Texas tester let me know! __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

May 19th, 2009, 10:02 AM	#13
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	Looks SWEET. Gona make em in stainless?? Would love a set when my lil 250 becomes a track bike only. __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

May 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	oh, lordy... you hooligan!!

May 18th, 2009, 05:30 PM	#6
Daeldren two wheel addict Name: Kenneth Location: Simpsonville, SC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 94 xlh 883, 1984 kawi gpz money pit Posts: 556	Hmm, now if only we could design some silencers for these to make them more street friendly we would have the coolest damn gp style pipes around for the 250r. I am impressed by the performance gains though and I'm definitely waiting to see vid of these in action. Thank you Richard and the Totsubo team for being so dedicated to getting the most out of the 250R I can only imagine what is yet to come. I doubt we will see anything near 125GP levels but we can dream.

May 18th, 2009, 06:04 PM	#7
Daeldren two wheel addict Name: Kenneth Location: Simpsonville, SC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 94 xlh 883, 1984 kawi gpz money pit Posts: 556	Wait a min, is that Wes Totsubo's company?

May 18th, 2009, 07:44 PM	#10
Mo1981 ninjette.org member Name: Matt Location: Keller, TX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ebony Ninja 250R Posts: 137	Man, those look sweet! Posted via Mobile Device

May 18th, 2009, 08:14 PM	#12
smcbride11 ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Providence, RI Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '95 BMW K75 Posts: 188	If it's possible to get a decibel meter out on one, I'd appreciate it! New Hampshire's got a 99 dB limit for track days and while I imagine the 'jette stays lower than that even with this guy, it'd be awful to get up there and have to put a stock exhaust back on.

May 19th, 2009, 11:07 AM	#15
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Hahaha... let's see YOU get a 150 rear all the way to the edge! __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

May 19th, 2009, 12:30 PM	#16
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	^^^^^^^^^^^^Oh Oh sounds like a chalenge to me!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Be sure and take pics. lol

May 19th, 2009, 03:57 PM	#17
Rocketman ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Ontario Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r special edition Posts: 84	How loud is loud ?

May 19th, 2009, 10:25 PM	#18
i916it ninjette.org member Name: Sky Location: Sacramento Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250R 08 Posts: 63	Wait. I'm new to this. Is this a full system (including headers or is it all one piece?) Does that mean there's 2 seperate headers ( 2-2 ? )? Compared to the 2-1 Yoshi full system?

May 20th, 2009, 02:47 AM	#19
Rocketman ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Ontario Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r special edition Posts: 84	this system is a set of twins...2-2...so says their site

May 20th, 2009, 05:15 AM	#20
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	the bottom pipe is touching the plastic. would it melt the plastic?

May 20th, 2009, 07:33 AM	#21
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	its not plastic. these are race fairings, so they're fiberglass. __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

May 20th, 2009, 07:43 AM	#24
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	did you re-jet at all for the new pipes (from your area-p jetting, not from stock)? i'm assuming you did since it sounds like you've dyno'd it. __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

May 20th, 2009, 08:32 AM	#25
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	I was a bit rich with the Area P at Willow Springs, so I just left it alone. Runs good. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

May 20th, 2009, 09:05 AM	#26
MrTiddles ninjette.org member Name: Seth Location: Wichita, KS Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Posts: 89	jeez. That's awesome. __________________________________________________

May 20th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#27
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Made a quick video. Hope you guys enjoy it. Link to original page on YouTube.* __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

May 20th, 2009, 02:49 PM	#28
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	nice. i'm sure as soon as we trash the yoshi we'll be picking up a set of these pipes. __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

May 20th, 2009, 03:09 PM	#29
Rocketman ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Ontario Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r special edition Posts: 84	Your right...it is loud, Nice pipes

May 20th, 2009, 05:09 PM	#30
i916it ninjette.org member Name: Sky Location: Sacramento Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250R 08 Posts: 63	So...what can we do about the decibel limit at the track?

May 20th, 2009, 08:31 PM	#31
Daeldren two wheel addict Name: Kenneth Location: Simpsonville, SC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 94 xlh 883, 1984 kawi gpz money pit Posts: 556	Awww damn, I bet that thing sounds like a bat out of hell at the track.

May 20th, 2009, 10:03 PM	#32
NinjetteMan ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: City of Angels Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Kawi 250R Posts: 48	Holy cow, I'm in love...as if I actually needed something else to throw eight bills at.....It makes the shorty AP sound tame, at least I think that the other bike has an AP shorty??

May 21st, 2009, 07:13 PM	#33
stroked59 ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: O*C California Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 2505 Posts: 98	that sounds close to my gp style exhaust from nojima..... think mine is jsut a little quiter....but yours sounds sick....

May 22nd, 2009, 01:45 PM	#34
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Updated the store page with a dyno chart. 2.7HP more than Area P short exhaust! http://store.racebikerentals.com/mer...Category_Code= __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

May 22nd, 2009, 03:51 PM	#35
Rocketman ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Ontario Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r special edition Posts: 84	I think ill wait and save more to buy that exhaust....It looks and sounds too good to pass up...79mph-83mph is that pretty accurate ? that kind of difference must be noticeable at lower speeds to is it ?

May 23rd, 2009, 01:22 AM	#36
CodE-E Ninja Newbie Name: Ben Location: Austria Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): EX250K9 Posts: 126	Holy sh*t, that sounds mean.

May 23rd, 2009, 11:13 PM	#38
ztrack157 The Sportisi Master Name: Matt Location: Chico Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Ok maybe someone can explain the dyno charts a little better than I can. Whats the difference between a smoothing of 3 and one of 5. You test your AP at a net 2 hp gain over stock while they have 5 on their site and equally HP to the new exhaust you sell. I know all dyno's aren't equal but does the smoothing effect this. As for the actual exhaust it is a nice set up. I was wondering how long till someone came out with a design like this. Not to my taste but racers will like it. And like you said with the amount of work put into making those certainly not cheap. lol. __________________________________________________ Sportisimoto USA is born.

May 24th, 2009, 03:52 AM	#39
RSPILOT ninjette.org member Name: Wes Location: SoCal Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Too many. Some are in the house. Posts: 75	Between smoothing 3 and 5 or 0, the lower smoothing numbers will show a higher HP number due to the spikes. Last futzed with by RSPILOT; May 24th, 2009 at 10:31 AM.

May 24th, 2009, 11:15 AM	#40
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	smoothing of 0 will definitely show a higher (false) HP number due to spikes, but there should be very little difference, if any, between 3 & 5. It's not magic, you can look at the chart itself and see how the curve looks as it approaches the peak and quickly determine if the peak # is a glitch/spike or if it smoothly rises to that peak and comes back down. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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