December 13th, 2011, 05:30 PM | #1 |
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Cali bike / 49 state replacement tank / hose routing help
Hi. My wife has a 2003 EX250 and the previous owner had it hit in San Francisco while parked.
Anyways, the tank was pretty beat so I bought a pretty good condition replacement on eBay. I took the old tank off - removed the petcock, fill cap assembly - mounted it back onto the bike and realized it only has 1 hose vs 3. To confirm I have all the CA emissions stuff on the bike and these 2 extra hoses with nowhere to go :] It ran for like a minute and then sputtered and died. I tried bending the blue striped (to blue dot hose) and that didn't help... and i tried the same for the middle one (obviously with no luck). It also seemed to leak gas toward to top of the gas cap seal (~ 10 o'clock) I am looking for some insight on how to get the bike to function - I assume it's a vacuum or emissions thing. Ideally if I can cap it off that would be ideal, while retaining the emissions stuff on the bike. Thanks for the insight. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22296 http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Hose_ro...ine_fuel_tanks http://kawasakiworld.com/zx-12r/2041...n-control.html Last futzed with by djliquid; December 13th, 2011 at 05:34 PM. Reason: I'm dumb |
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December 13th, 2011, 05:38 PM | #2 |
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December 13th, 2011, 05:40 PM | #3 |
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Those hoses are for the Kleen Air System, a useless piece of junk. There is a DIY on removing it but it is for the newgens. You can still follow the DIY, things will just be in different places.
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9948 You're going to need a few caps to plug some hoses and the holes on the bike. Good luck
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December 13th, 2011, 05:46 PM | #4 |
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thanks, guys.
I'll give that a look. If anyone stumbles into a thread for a 2003 (or any pre-2007) it'd be greatly appreciated. peace- e |
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December 13th, 2011, 06:03 PM | #5 | |
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Quote:
That's a totally different thing with a totally different purpose than the evaporative fuel system, which stops gasoline from evaporating out of your tank.
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December 13th, 2011, 09:20 PM | #6 |
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http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Hose_ro...ine_fuel_tanks
i re-read this page. On the 49 state tank there's the one hose outlet (drain). 49 state models have only one hose coming from the rear of the fuel tank. This is a drain hose for fluid that gets in the depression between the filler neck and the top of the tank, from being in the rain or overfilling the tank. Air vents into these tanks On the Cali tank there's 3 (L-R), with the middle apparently the drain.
I vented the red tube - running it to the left side by the coolant reservoir. I capped off the third tube (blue stripe) by bending it back and ziptieing (like with landscape irrigation). I started it up and it ran fine for at least a few minutes, which is way more than before, and showed no sign of stalling. The red tube did drip some gas, but this was likely because I had stupidly hooked it up to drain before reading anything. So far so good - will report after more thorough test. |
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December 14th, 2011, 09:17 AM | #7 |
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Yank the round R2D2 looking thing and the rectangular lunchbox and all the assorted hoses. Then swith out the vacuum line on your carbs from a 2 piece hoe with a T in the middle to a one piece with no T.
And the system is call the CA evaporative emissions control or some BS like that. The Kleen Air System is totally different and does not exist on the 250. |
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December 14th, 2011, 09:33 AM | #8 |
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I had the exact same scenario with my bike. Rip all the emissions stuff off and replace that little hose on the carbs (the one with a T in it) with a piece of solid hose. The nipple on the tank is just a drain. Send it right down to the ground.
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