December 4th, 2014, 03:42 AM | #1 |
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Necessity of Gauge Cluster?
Sorry guys I searched around and ultimately couldn't find a Ninja 250 specific answer. Is my gauge cluster necessary I'm currently fixing some(alot) of neglect to my bike, and decided to trash my front fairing,. but the bike looks silly with the stock headlight and front fairing so I was merely curious if I could remove the gauge cluster all together? I would like to remove it and then take the speedo out and find another way to case/mount it on the side of my tank. Thanks appreciate it. I assume this is a silly question and the answer is no you don't need it, and I'm aware I'll have no way to know if I'm out of oil and it's about to blow up.
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December 4th, 2014, 07:18 AM | #2 | |
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They have made a custom dash kit the uses your OEM gauges and warning lights. Give them call, they will sell individual parts of their kit. Good luck Kawasaki Ninja 250 Instrument Panel: http://youtu.be/akmBflxmNxM
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December 4th, 2014, 09:49 AM | #3 |
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even the bluecollarbobber cluster seems to big for my taste...you should look at the vapor unit...its nice and small and very clean
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December 4th, 2014, 10:14 AM | #5 |
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To the OP, you got some decisions to make, you got some good choices, Vapor unit is definitely cool, and modern looking.
What's the look your going for? Fighter, bobber, ?
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December 4th, 2014, 11:13 AM | #6 |
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I don't even think you need a gauge cluster in some states. Like, you can actually not have a speedometer. Trouble is, if a cop wrongfully writes you a speeding ticket, there's no way you can contest it at all.
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December 4th, 2014, 11:46 AM | #7 |
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You don't need one at all, I don't run one on my pregen.
though I wish I had a shift light, I should get on that
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December 4th, 2014, 11:52 AM | #8 |
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you have to disclose that the milage on the non-existent speedometer is not accurate if you sell it. i believe that is the only regulation involved.
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December 4th, 2014, 01:01 PM | #9 |
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Get a Trail Tech Vapor.
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December 4th, 2014, 02:33 PM | #10 |
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You can just remove it (unplug the connector and remove the speedo cable at the wheel). I agree that the Vapor is a good, small alternative. Even smaller (and cheaper) is Trail Tech's Endurance II, which is a speedometer/odometer without the tach, but still with the durability and backlight you need for a streetbike. Check it out at Trailtech.net.
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December 4th, 2014, 02:36 PM | #11 |
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You better be careful how you mount your gauge cluster, if you F it up then it will look like complete D.S
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December 4th, 2014, 02:37 PM | #12 |
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December 4th, 2014, 03:00 PM | #13 |
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I could live without the dash all together. There are small alternatives. But I ride bicycles with out a speedo and don't care.
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December 4th, 2014, 03:03 PM | #14 |
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i think the oil pressure light is like the only one you can't tell from just feeling. maybe the only important one. maybe coolant temp too.
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December 4th, 2014, 06:02 PM | #15 |
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Are those just light bulbs with no dashboard circuitry behind them? Or would one have to salvage/kludge some electronics if one wanted to put those two things (and a bicycle speedometer) in a little custom bud box?
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December 5th, 2014, 04:14 PM | #17 |
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Wow guys thanks for all the info I appreciate it. I really like the Vapor option, as far as looks I'm not really going for anything in particular, just trashed my front fairing, and the stock headlight/gauge cluster looks dumb with no fairing. I could give two shits about the legality of it, I just wanted to make sure the bike wouldn't have any issues without it. I may try and wire up a light for the low oil pressure but other than that I think I'll just ditch it.
Here it is in all it's ugly glory now. |
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December 6th, 2014, 09:19 AM | #18 |
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Let me throw you a curve ball.
Just put a aluminum plate where your cluster would be. A small one, rectangle shaped, about the size of your cell. Get an old smartphone, and mount it on that plate. A gps speedo app should do nicely. There are plenty to choose from and I would be you can find one to strike your fancy. Doubles as a gps nav, speedo, music player and can still make 911 calls.
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December 6th, 2014, 09:20 AM | #19 |
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Oh! Welcome too.
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December 6th, 2014, 09:38 AM | #20 |
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I'll see your cell phone, and raise you a tablet,
http://www.webbikeworld.com/gps/nexu...t-as-a-gps.htm
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December 8th, 2014, 05:20 AM | #21 | |
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December 8th, 2014, 08:20 AM | #22 |
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Better than the OEM speedometer LOL
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December 8th, 2014, 10:30 AM | #23 |
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December 8th, 2014, 10:46 AM | #24 |
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I would love it if Vapor made a unit with a GPS receiver to take care of that kind of stuff , mph, odometer, trip meter etc......
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December 8th, 2014, 11:19 AM | #25 |
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Yeah but they use a sensor on the wheel which I think has a more accurate reading...do you not agree?
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December 8th, 2014, 11:37 AM | #26 |
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Not really sure, depends on installation, but it wou make it easier, no calibration needed, plug-in. ride
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December 8th, 2014, 11:45 AM | #27 |
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GPS is very accurate, but it requires a satellite connection, and the readings are not as immediate as those based on the bike's wheel speed.
The Trail Tech speedos are very accurate, and are adjustable so you can dial them in for different bikes, or when you change tires. They have a good equation that allows you to set the speedo based on tire circumference (the distance the wheel travels in one revolution). |
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December 8th, 2014, 11:58 AM | #28 | |
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December 8th, 2014, 12:09 PM | #29 | |
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The gps refresh rate on the worst cell phone (about 2 sec) is still much better than the 5%-10% inaccuracy on the factory speedo. imho....
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December 8th, 2014, 12:21 PM | #30 |
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Jarvis I bet is killer accurate, anybody got Tony Stark's phone number?
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December 8th, 2014, 04:28 PM | #31 |
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I just used my Iphone or a GPS on my old ninjette. I never readlly needed a cluster.
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December 9th, 2014, 10:29 AM | #32 |
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One must also remember that GPS technology is used in aviation, and avionics, both military and civilian.
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Precisely my point.
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