2013 Exhaust

[ryan.chin]

FIRST...


Had to get it before Jiggles.


UH yeah.

[Old Lemon]

yoshi

[menikmati]

MGP Growler fo' life.

BRAP BRAP.

[ryan.chin]

BRAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA P BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....

^ The exact sound of a MPG Growler - through all 6 gears.

[JBinSD]

I asked the dealer today when he expected any aftermarket stuff for the 300, he said he thought it'd be months.

I'd like to be able to have mine race-ready by Nov, but think I'll need:

stainless brake line up front;
Frame sliders and spools;
rearsets;
full exhaust or slip-on;
bazzaz, pc or equivalent;
and track plastics a la sharkskinz or hotbodies.

If anyone has a source for these items, lemme know pls.

Thanx,
Joel

[Alex]

Stainless lines are pretty generic, and could probably be ordered now if you gave them the required length. My hunch is that any lines for the 08-12 would be identical, but no guarantees. Rear spools are standard M10 size, so anything for the new-gens will work there as well.

No info yet on framesliders, but it looks like there will at least be an official kawi accessory for them, so that means aftermarket support as well at some point. Same with exhaust and PC; clearly they will be ready at some point, hopefully soon.

[vanman69]

M4 has slipons for the 300 on ebay at the moment

[ricochet08]

link? i can't find em

[JBinSD]

Yeah, I'm not seeing much of anything even on Fleabay for the 300 yet, I'm sure it'll eventually gain support, but pretty empty atm.

[vanman69]

ere ya go bud
Carbon Fibre
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M4-Exhaus...item19d5aa6217

Titanium
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M4-Exhaus...item19d5644db3

[JBinSD]

Ah, Van's downundah, us yank's haven't evolved on ebay yet. . . .

[choneofakind]

plus, $500 for a can?? bleah. Just wait for a full system for that price.

[vanman69]

yeah, ive got to agree, i dont think id buy a slip on if there was a full system available. im sure it wont be long till one comes out in the land of the rising sun.

[Rekognize]

Originally Posted by Alex

Rear spools are standard M10 size, so anything for the new-gens will work there as well.

Hi @Alex, would this work?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10mm-Swingar...-/280979242980

[Alex]

The bolt would fit in the hole on the bike, it is the correct size. But, I'm not sure if the diameter of the spool is small enough to fit under the swingarm. It also looks like the place where the stand would sit on that spool would be very close to the outside surface of the swingarm, and I wonder if it would be too close, and perhaps scrape it. The ones I got (just picked them up from the parts dept at the shop), have more of a spacer to put where the stand arms sit perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 inch further out. You could likely do the same thing with the spools you linked by adding a spacer. I wish I had the manufacturer of the ones I bought, it was some no-name accessory brand; it wasn't any factory kawasaki part. I can look when I get back to the shop for the first service.

[alex.s]

i like the look of the '13 stock exhaust. i wonder if the midpipe is the same size as the 250?

[Rekognize]

Originally Posted by Alex

I wish I had the manufacturer of the ones I bought, it was some no-name accessory brand; it wasn't any factory kawasaki part. I can look when I get back to the shop for the first service.

Keep us posted

[Alex]

OK, I just called to confirm the model. The spools I am using on the 2013 Ninja 300 are the Keiti Mini Swingarm Spools. Here is a link on motorcycle superstore, but I'm sure they are sold elsewhere as well.

0000-Keiti-Mini-Swingarm-Spools.jpg

While it's not clear from the picture, the way the bolt goes in is with the head of the bolt on the thin part of the spool, so that thick part of the metal is what is closest to the spool boss on the swingarm. Then the part where the stand fits is further outboard, enough so that there is clearance for the stand to not interfere with the swingarm. The only downside to these spools is that the space to hold the stand is quite narrow, so the stand has to have its arms exactly the right distance apart; there is almost no fudge factor allowed, like there is for spools that have wider mount areas. I was thinking of replacing them with ones from PitBull directly, but I'm starting to appreciate that these look quite clean and small, and work perfectly fine as long as the stand is configured correctly.

[Surferboy120]

I bought the Pit Bull 10mm Spools part # F0023-000 in Black. They fit perfectly. They come with a spacer just in case but I did not need to use it.

Link to Pit Bull product
http://www.pit-bull.com/mm5/merchant...ode=spool_kits

[Rekognize]

Awesome, thanks guys

[JBinSD]

yeah surfer, I actually followed your link for the Pitbull spools, I like the idea of having sliders back there too, has anyone tried the Delcron sliders on the spool? I guess equally tight margin of error for the stands, but good to have extra protection back there too.

[Kawz]

I have an akrapovic slip on exhaust for my 250r. Will i be able to fit it to the 300?

[Sapper]

Originally Posted by Kawz

I have an akrapovic slip on exhaust for my 250r. Will i be able to fit it to the 300?

The pipe will fit into your stock header but the bracket to hold it on may not reach. If it is not adjustable you will need to get a little piece of metal to adapt to it

[Hellmutt]

I'm chatting with Brock Davidson to see if/when he plans to get a specimen to design a system. I'll post up my findings after he replies, but beware.....if it's anything close to the 250R system they offer, it will be one pricey setup! Here's a link to the 250R system
http://www.brocksperformance.com/Ninja-250R+C271.aspx

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Hellmutt

I'm chatting with Brock Davidson to see if/when he plans to get a specimen to design a system. I'll post up my findings after he replies, but beware.....if it's anything close to the 250R system they offer, it will be one pricey setup! Here's a link to the 250R system
http://www.brocksperformance.com/Ninja-250R+C271.aspx

Where da dynos at!?

[Somchai]

Here you can see the first dynos from LeoVince for the Ninja 300 (the Corsa is the race exhaust).

[Jiggles]

Wow 39 Potenzas???

[Surferboy120]

Originally Posted by tnr4

I'm excited to see what AP can come up with. The dyno for the Leo Vince is a little disappointing; not only is the bump less appreciable than I expected with a full system, but I'm totally not willing to DROP the torque curve below 5krpm. It's already a bit anemic down there, so intentionally losing power at a weak point seems bad; definitely not something I'll pay a lot for.

Not much info except a dyno. Who knows what kind of tuning was done with the exhaust. I agree though I am waiting for AP.

[Alex]

All Area P-specific discussion moved to its own thread right here.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Somchai

Here you can see the first dynos from LeoVince for the Ninja 300 (the Corsa is the race exhaust).

That's it? Did they forget to change the fuel map or something?

[diwhiteii]

I took this off my 09 Ninja 250R and put on my 2013 300. It sounds soooo good on the 300 even better than the 250. I also have the jardine GP1so I put it on my 250R. Enjoy!

[ninja250r81]

TBR Slip-on available in Aussie

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/T...0-Slip-on.html

[choneofakind]

USA as well: http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopp...300-SO-13.html

Notice on their listing, they only have a slip-on, but in their picture on the main page, they have what appears to be a full system on the bike.

This guy:


VS. this guy:


and here's the youtube video that Two Brothers made. Look at the power gains. If that's what can be done with a slip-on, I can't wait to see what can be done with a full system. They got 38.26 HP out of the slip-on vs 35.53 with the stock system, and the peak carries further without dropping off. Surprisingly, the Two Brothers can doesn't seem loud. It looks to be a longer can than those for other bikes. Finally, Two Brothers makes a can that's not redonculously loud. They look sick. My complaint is the dB level.

Link to original page on YouTube.

[adouglas]

Okay, call me ignorant but I do not understand the purpose of slip-ons.

The limiting factor is the pipe and fueling, right?

Therefore all a slip-on does is make the bike louder... not more powerful.

[choneofakind]

Depends on the bike. Some bikes respond really well to just a can. Some need a full system to really open up.

Looks like the 300 gets 2.73 horse from a slip-on. I bet more from a full system with larger diameter pipes and whatnot.

EDIT for example:

This is the dyno chart from Area P for the Slip-on that fits the 01-05 GSXR600-750. You can see a 7 hp improvement, and a bike that pulls all the way to the redline instead of dying off. That would be very useful for the track, even if they improvement isn't huge.

[lgk]

depends on what ends up being the bottleneck in the system. could be any part along the exhaust.

the good thing about full exhausts, is that everything is engineered to work together.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Depends on the bike. Some bikes respond really well to just a can. Some need a full system to really open up.

Looks like the 300 gets 2.73 horse from a slip-on. I bet more from a full system with larger diameter pipes and whatnot.

EDIT for example:

This is the dyno chart from Area P for the Slip-on that fits the 01-05 GSXR600-750. You can see a 7 hp improvement, and a bike that pulls all the way to the redline instead of dying off. That would be very useful for the track, even if they improvement isn't huge.

I think 90% of that benefit is from retuning not the exhaust

[choneofakind]

Oh contraire my jiggly friend, webpage says no ecu changes were made.

Fuel curve/map is within specs and no change is required to the mapping.

http://areapnolimits.com/products/Sl...-R750-2001.php

[Jiggles]

Hmm, seems odd that a slip on would have that much of an affect

[ricochet08]

http://www.hotbodiesracing.com/en/pr...2013_ninja_300